SYC

[Anonymous]

2 years ago when we looked at SYC for the 2016-17 season, the fees were something like $850 per year. I don't know if this included tournament fees, futsal, and other "extras."

Other clubs were around $2000-2200. When I heard that SYC had doubled their fees, I assumed it was to pay coaches, as before they were volunteers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a parent it would be nice to know why coaches and TD had to be fired mid year. I get that SYC is not obligated to tell current parents anything but remember that we are the family members, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc. of future SYC recruits. The fall out from this and memories of how families were treated will be remembered and circulated in this area for years.

SYC doesn't care about SYC families or kids. All the new TD is trying to do is bring all his LMVSC teams and coaches over. It's the only reason he got hired and he clearly won't be too worried about current players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent it would be nice to know why coaches and TD had to be fired mid year. I get that SYC is not obligated to tell current parents anything but remember that we are the family members, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc. of future SYC recruits. The fall out from this and memories of how families were treated will be remembered and circulated in this area for years.

SYC doesn't care about SYC families or kids. All the new TD is trying to do is bring all his LMVSC teams and coaches over. It's the only reason he got hired and he clearly won't be too worried about current players.

Ultimately it is a business. There wouldnt have been a drastic change without reason. I would also guess that the new TD is going to try to get as many of his old players to move, some will, some wont. This hasnt affected our team/age group however I am sure some will look elsewhere. My DC has built some strong relationships with teammates...I hope they can stay together for the most part.

[Anonymous]

We're not moving. I mean no disrespect to SYC but we're not following ANY coach who abandons teams in the middle of the season or who tears teams apart in either club for other than developmental reasons (i.e. Your club's been admitted into an elite league and some kids can compete comfortably there while others need more development). Our ExDir has already recovered from the sudden and unexpected loss of our former TD and is proactively managing the anticipated loss of his crew. As a sister club in the soccer community, I wish SYC well because past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior so don't expect a lot of loyalty from the guys who come over or any concern for your kids as they patch together new teams with the few players who follow them along with your children who have this thrown on them.

[Anonymous]

How are the older teams doing with all of this? Same instability and midseason changes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're not moving. I mean no disrespect to SYC but we're not following ANY coach who abandons teams in the middle of the season or who tears teams apart in either club for other than developmental reasons (i.e. Your club's been admitted into an elite league and some kids can compete comfortably there while others need more development). Our ExDir has already recovered from the sudden and unexpected loss of our former TD and is proactively managing the anticipated loss of his crew. As a sister club in the soccer community, I wish SYC well because past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior so don't expect a lot of loyalty from the guys who come over or any concern for your kids as they patch together new teams with the few players who follow them along with your children who have this thrown on them.

Loyalty to a team and to kids is very different from loyalty to a club...or a particular executive director. I'm sure that said executive director is very keen for people to view them as one and the same.

Our LMVSC coach has never failed to answer an email or text, never failed to make time for a kid or to talk to a parents. Sometimes the parents (including me) haven't liked what he's had to say, but there is no basis to say he isn't deeply invested in the development of the kids, both individually and as a team. Other than Este, I'm not aware of any coaches leaving before the season ends. They don't owe you (or me, or anyone) their servitude to Lula Bauer because it makes your drive easier.

If staying at LMVSC works for you, great. I'm sure the new TD will be fantastic. I anticipate that many of the dribble-till-you-shoot-or-lose-it LMVSC players (esp on the boys side) will struggle under a new TD if they implement a different philosophy and, therefore, might be inclined to move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are the older teams doing with all of this? Same instability and midseason changes?

Not PP but from what I see, teams are doing fine, they are practicing, social media is active with weekend games, and as the PP did mention, they are actively looking for a TD replacement. Parents can do what they want, we are not considering SYC, but I hope they are informed and really look into all the promises being made from those looking to take their players elsewhere just to follow a coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're not moving. I mean no disrespect to SYC but we're not following ANY coach who abandons teams in the middle of the season or who tears teams apart in either club for other than developmental reasons (i.e. Your club's been admitted into an elite league and some kids can compete comfortably there while others need more development). Our ExDir has already recovered from the sudden and unexpected loss of our former TD and is proactively managing the anticipated loss of his crew. As a sister club in the soccer community, I wish SYC well because past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior so don't expect a lot of loyalty from the guys who come over or any concern for your kids as they patch together new teams with the few players who follow them along with your children who have this thrown on them.

Loyalty to a team and to kids is very different from loyalty to a club...or a particular executive director. I'm sure that said executive director is very keen for people to view them as one and the same.

Our LMVSC coach has never failed to answer an email or text, never failed to make time for a kid or to talk to a parents. Sometimes the parents (including me) haven't liked what he's had to say, but there is no basis to say he isn't deeply invested in the development of the kids, both individually and as a team. Other than Este, I'm not aware of any coaches leaving before the season ends. They don't owe you (or me, or anyone) their servitude to Lula Bauer because it makes your drive easier.

If staying at LMVSC works for you, great. I'm sure the new TD will be fantastic. I anticipate that many of the dribble-till-you-shoot-or-lose-it LMVSC players (esp on the boys side) will struggle under a new TD if they implement a different philosophy and, therefore, might be inclined to move.

Sounds like your coach has made his intentions clear for next year and already sold you on the fact that a new TD will negatively impact your child. Just think about the ethics of your coach actively doing that while cashing checks from the club. In what business would that be acceptable? If that's the person my kid is supposed to look up to, I think change may be for the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're not moving. I mean no disrespect to SYC but we're not following ANY coach who abandons teams in the middle of the season or who tears teams apart in either club for other than developmental reasons (i.e. Your club's been admitted into an elite league and some kids can compete comfortably there while others need more development). Our ExDir has already recovered from the sudden and unexpected loss of our former TD and is proactively managing the anticipated loss of his crew. As a sister club in the soccer community, I wish SYC well because past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior so don't expect a lot of loyalty from the guys who come over or any concern for your kids as they patch together new teams with the few players who follow them along with your children who have this thrown on them.

Loyalty to a team and to kids is very different from loyalty to a club...or a particular executive director. I'm sure that said executive director is very keen for people to view them as one and the same.

Our LMVSC coach has never failed to answer an email or text, never failed to make time for a kid or to talk to a parents. Sometimes the parents (including me) haven't liked what he's had to say, but there is no basis to say he isn't deeply invested in the development of the kids, both individually and as a team. Other than Este, I'm not aware of any coaches leaving before the season ends. They don't owe you (or me, or anyone) their servitude to Lula Bauer because it makes your drive easier.

If staying at LMVSC works for you, great. I'm sure the new TD will be fantastic. I anticipate that many of the dribble-till-you-shoot-or-lose-it LMVSC players (esp on the boys side) will struggle under a new TD if they implement a different philosophy and, therefore, might be inclined to move.

Sounds like your coach has made his intentions clear for next year and already sold you on the fact that a new TD will negatively impact your child. Just think about the ethics of your coach actively doing that while cashing checks from the club. In what business would that be acceptable? If that's the person my kid is supposed to look up to, I think change may be for the best.

Not the poster that you are replying to but did you read the comment correctly? It sounds like they are fine with their current coach. There is no indication stating that the coach made any comment regarding the new TD or they even spoke about it. He is saying others may opt for the change due to a possible different playing style and that is based on his own opinion. Doesn't sound like he has made up his mind but just speculating on some impact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're not moving. I mean no disrespect to SYC but we're not following ANY coach who abandons teams in the middle of the season or who tears teams apart in either club for other than developmental reasons (i.e. Your club's been admitted into an elite league and some kids can compete comfortably there while others need more development). Our ExDir has already recovered from the sudden and unexpected loss of our former TD and is proactively managing the anticipated loss of his crew. As a sister club in the soccer community, I wish SYC well because past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior so don't expect a lot of loyalty from the guys who come over or any concern for your kids as they patch together new teams with the few players who follow them along with your children who have this thrown on them.

Loyalty to a team and to kids is very different from loyalty to a club...or a particular executive director. I'm sure that said executive director is very keen for people to view them as one and the same.

Our LMVSC coach has never failed to answer an email or text, never failed to make time for a kid or to talk to a parents. Sometimes the parents (including me) haven't liked what he's had to say, but there is no basis to say he isn't deeply invested in the development of the kids, both individually and as a team. Other than Este, I'm not aware of any coaches leaving before the season ends. They don't owe you (or me, or anyone) their servitude to Lula Bauer because it makes your drive easier.

If staying at LMVSC works for you, great. I'm sure the new TD will be fantastic. I anticipate that many of the dribble-till-you-shoot-or-lose-it LMVSC players (esp on the boys side) will struggle under a new TD if they implement a different philosophy and, therefore, might be inclined to move.

Sounds like your coach has made his intentions clear for next year and already sold you on the fact that a new TD will negatively impact your child. Just think about the ethics of your coach actively doing that while cashing checks from the club. In what business would that be acceptable? If that's the person my kid is supposed to look up to, I think change may be for the best.

Sounds like your reading comprehension not so good.

Our coach, actually, has said absolutely nothing except that he will coach through the spring season. My DS, as it turns out, is a very good footballer who doesn't really fit into the LMVSC style/philosophy very well but likes his team and friends and winning lots of games. He would probably benefit very much from a change in philosophy at LMVSC. But if his team either goes to SYC or scatters, then what? (We don't know yet--we're in wait and see mode, and that includes looking at other clubs/DAs in the region)

LMVSC is a great football community. It's a shame if it gets broken up, but saying a coach is not loyal to the kids because they're moving on as a result of professional friction is neither fair nor accurate.

[Anonymous]

You are all too invested in the politics. A coach, TD, player, and club have every right to make changes whenever they please. The rumors share here are dangerous. I coached lacrosee on the west coast and when I was transferred to a new office in the DMV, the rumors where that I was leaving to a rival club all because I chose to keep my personal life confidential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all too invested in the politics. A coach, TD, player, and club have every right to make changes whenever they please. The rumors share here are dangerous. I coached lacrosee on the west coast and when I was transferred to a new office in the DMV, the rumors where that I was leaving to a rival club all because I chose to keep my personal life confidential.

Gimme a break. Our investment is in our kids, not politics. It's not easy to find/get a spot in club soccer where your kid is challenged to the right degree, has friends, not too far a drive, coach who the kid responds well to, etc. When people manage to get their kids into that kind of a situation, of course they're concerned when major moves happen.

[Anonymous]

So what is the LMVSC style/philosophy?

[Anonymous]

So LMVSC has a "dribble-till-you-shoot-or-lose-it" philosophy? The technical director we just got is the one who develops the training philosophy so what should we expect? I think Lee was doing a good job as coach and TD but got a bad rap from Dottie. I saw somewhere he's at Alexandria so he was good enough to get picked up quickly by a CCL club. I'll give the new guy time but so far all I see are social media posts. Dottie said he was going to get us into CCL but that hasn't happened. Instead, we got dumped from NPL. I'm tired of surprises and unfulfilled promises. My last straw will be if my kid finds out at the end of the season that his coach is being replaced by an LMVSC coach and he and his friends are split up because a team is coming from LMVSC. Call it business but its bad business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So LMVSC has a "dribble-till-you-shoot-or-lose-it" philosophy? The technical director we just got is the one who develops the training philosophy so what should we expect? I think Lee was doing a good job as coach and TD but got a bad rap from Dottie. I saw somewhere he's at Alexandria so he was good enough to get picked up quickly by a CCL club. I'll give the new guy time but so far all I see are social media posts. Dottie said he was going to get us into CCL but that hasn't happened. Instead, we got dumped from NPL. I'm tired of surprises and unfulfilled promises. My last straw will be if my kid finds out at the end of the season that his coach is being replaced by an LMVSC coach and he and his friends are split up because a team is coming from LMVSC. Call it business but its bad business.

Keep your options open, don't wait until you are told. Check out LMVSC and other nearby clubs.