CYA vs SYA Soccer

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5) The program has no educational standards, starting from the program director. He openly disparages US soccer coaching education and doesn't really care about coaching education in general.



I think he's UEFA licensed, so it might be a good place for the folks on this board who can't stand US Soccer. Just a thought.


He has a Nothern Irish UEFA B. As far as UEFA licenses, it's one if the few ones with no standard for getting in. Also, does not justify his disdain for US soccer education or his disparaging of it. Is CYA a European club? Is he a European coach?


I don't know about justifying disdain, but it is notable that he actively avoided the US Soccer certs. I think it may say something about the mindset. Does it matter whether or not he is European? There are many here who prefer the European approach who have never even been to Europe.


There’s a big difference between a UEFA license attained at Coverciano and a Northern-Irish UEFA license...


Pretty much anyone can do the Irish FA B. It is not recognised by other European countries. There is also no confirmation that he passed it. He is against the US coaching system, even calling out US Soccer on Facebook the other day. Maybe that’s because he is afraid of being exposed in front of other coaches in the area for being a Terrible coach?


To me it sounds as if he got a token license and is just anti-cert
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5) The program has no educational standards, starting from the program director. He openly disparages US soccer coaching education and doesn't really care about coaching education in general.



I think he's UEFA licensed, so it might be a good place for the folks on this board who can't stand US Soccer. Just a thought.


He has a Nothern Irish UEFA B. As far as UEFA licenses, it's one if the few ones with no standard for getting in. Also, does not justify his disdain for US soccer education or his disparaging of it. Is CYA a European club? Is he a European coach?


I don't know about justifying disdain, but it is notable that he actively avoided the US Soccer certs. I think it may say something about the mindset. Does it matter whether or not he is European? There are many here who prefer the European approach who have never even been to Europe.


There’s a big difference between a UEFA license attained at Coverciano and a Northern-Irish UEFA license...


Pretty much anyone can do the Irish FA B. It is not recognised by other European countries. There is also no confirmation that he passed it. He is against the US coaching system, even calling out US Soccer on Facebook the other day. Maybe that’s because he is afraid of being exposed in front of other coaches in the area for being a Terrible coach?


To me it sounds as if he got a token license and is just anti-cert


Anti-cert maybe. Anti-US Soccer definitely and publicly on Facebook. He sounds a lot like many on this forum. I think he'd be a popular guy with many on here.
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5) The program has no educational standards, starting from the program director. He openly disparages US soccer coaching education and doesn't really care about coaching education in general.



I think he's UEFA licensed, so it might be a good place for the folks on this board who can't stand US Soccer. Just a thought.


He has a Nothern Irish UEFA B. As far as UEFA licenses, it's one if the few ones with no standard for getting in. Also, does not justify his disdain for US soccer education or his disparaging of it. Is CYA a European club? Is he a European coach?


I don't know about justifying disdain, but it is notable that he actively avoided the US Soccer certs. I think it may say something about the mindset. Does it matter whether or not he is European? There are many here who prefer the European approach who have never even been to Europe.


There’s a big difference between a UEFA license attained at Coverciano and a Northern-Irish UEFA license...


Pretty much anyone can do the Irish FA B. It is not recognised by other European countries. There is also no confirmation that he passed it. He is against the US coaching system, even calling out US Soccer on Facebook the other day. Maybe that’s because he is afraid of being exposed in front of other coaches in the area for being a Terrible coach?


To me it sounds as if he got a token license and is just anti-cert


Anti-cert maybe. Anti-US Soccer definitely and publicly on Facebook. He sounds a lot like many on this forum. I think he'd be a popular guy with many on here.


I think it speaks volumes that nobody wants to work with him, whatever license he may or may not have. Plenty of good coaches out there with lower licenses, but you can always find a peer to say something positive.
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5) The program has no educational standards, starting from the program director. He openly disparages US soccer coaching education and doesn't really care about coaching education in general.



I think he's UEFA licensed, so it might be a good place for the folks on this board who can't stand US Soccer. Just a thought.


He has a Nothern Irish UEFA B. As far as UEFA licenses, it's one if the few ones with no standard for getting in. Also, does not justify his disdain for US soccer education or his disparaging of it. Is CYA a European club? Is he a European coach?


I don't know about justifying disdain, but it is notable that he actively avoided the US Soccer certs. I think it may say something about the mindset. Does it matter whether or not he is European? There are many here who prefer the European approach who have never even been to Europe.


There’s a big difference between a UEFA license attained at Coverciano and a Northern-Irish UEFA license...


Pretty much anyone can do the Irish FA B. It is not recognised by other European countries. There is also no confirmation that he passed it. He is against the US coaching system, even calling out US Soccer on Facebook the other day. Maybe that’s because he is afraid of being exposed in front of other coaches in the area for being a Terrible coach?


To me it sounds as if he got a token license and is just anti-cert


Anti-cert maybe. Anti-US Soccer definitely and publicly on Facebook. He sounds a lot like many on this forum. I think he'd be a popular guy with many on here.


I think it speaks volumes that nobody wants to work with him, whatever license he may or may not have. Plenty of good coaches out there with lower licenses, but you can always find a peer to say something positive.


The reality is a majority of the coaches that left did so because of promotions or better offers elsewhere. The previous TD certainly left for a better position. But if people left because of the current TD wouldn't it stand to reason that a good chunk of the coaches who left would have followed the previous guy if they thought so highly of him and he of them?
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5) The program has no educational standards, starting from the program director. He openly disparages US soccer coaching education and doesn't really care about coaching education in general.



I think he's UEFA licensed, so it might be a good place for the folks on this board who can't stand US Soccer. Just a thought.


He has a Nothern Irish UEFA B. As far as UEFA licenses, it's one if the few ones with no standard for getting in. Also, does not justify his disdain for US soccer education or his disparaging of it. Is CYA a European club? Is he a European coach?


I don't know about justifying disdain, but it is notable that he actively avoided the US Soccer certs. I think it may say something about the mindset. Does it matter whether or not he is European? There are many here who prefer the European approach who have never even been to Europe.


There’s a big difference between a UEFA license attained at Coverciano and a Northern-Irish UEFA license...


Pretty much anyone can do the Irish FA B. It is not recognised by other European countries. There is also no confirmation that he passed it. He is against the US coaching system, even calling out US Soccer on Facebook the other day. Maybe that’s because he is afraid of being exposed in front of other coaches in the area for being a Terrible coach?


To me it sounds as if he got a token license and is just anti-cert


Anti-cert maybe. Anti-US Soccer definitely and publicly on Facebook. He sounds a lot like many on this forum. I think he'd be a popular guy with many on here.


I think it speaks volumes that nobody wants to work with him, whatever license he may or may not have. Plenty of good coaches out there with lower licenses, but you can always find a peer to say something positive.


The reality is a majority of the coaches that left did so because of promotions or better offers elsewhere. The previous TD certainly left for a better position. But if people left because of the current TD wouldn't it stand to reason that a good chunk of the coaches who left would have followed the previous guy if they thought so highly of him and he of them?


In addition to this, the PP made the assumption that the other coaches didn't want to work with him based on personality, when the reality was the power play. Lots of times people leave over a power play because they were on the losing end. It doesn't say anything about the character on either side, it's just part of the realities of life.

If he is more European in his approach and develops a program more in line with UEFA than USSF, i think they would provide a great alternative for those who aren't USSF fans in Fairfax and eastern Loudoun.
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5) The program has no educational standards, starting from the program director. He openly disparages US soccer coaching education and doesn't really care about coaching education in general.



I think he's UEFA licensed, so it might be a good place for the folks on this board who can't stand US Soccer. Just a thought.


He has a Nothern Irish UEFA B. As far as UEFA licenses, it's one if the few ones with no standard for getting in. Also, does not justify his disdain for US soccer education or his disparaging of it. Is CYA a European club? Is he a European coach?


I don't know about justifying disdain, but it is notable that he actively avoided the US Soccer certs. I think it may say something about the mindset. Does it matter whether or not he is European? There are many here who prefer the European approach who have never even been to Europe.


There’s a big difference between a UEFA license attained at Coverciano and a Northern-Irish UEFA license...


Pretty much anyone can do the Irish FA B. It is not recognised by other European countries. There is also no confirmation that he passed it. He is against the US coaching system, even calling out US Soccer on Facebook the other day. Maybe that’s because he is afraid of being exposed in front of other coaches in the area for being a Terrible coach?


To me it sounds as if he got a token license and is just anti-cert


Anti-cert maybe. Anti-US Soccer definitely and publicly on Facebook. He sounds a lot like many on this forum. I think he'd be a popular guy with many on here.


I think it speaks volumes that nobody wants to work with him, whatever license he may or may not have. Plenty of good coaches out there with lower licenses, but you can always find a peer to say something positive.


The reality is a majority of the coaches that left did so because of promotions or better offers elsewhere. The previous TD certainly left for a better position. But if people left because of the current TD wouldn't it stand to reason that a good chunk of the coaches who left would have followed the previous guy if they thought so highly of him and he of them?


In addition to this, the PP made the assumption that the other coaches didn't want to work with him based on personality, when the reality was the power play. Lots of times people leave over a power play because they were on the losing end. It doesn't say anything about the character on either side, it's just part of the realities of life.

If he is more European in his approach and develops a program more in line with UEFA than USSF, i think they would provide a great alternative for those who aren't USSF fans in Fairfax and eastern Loudoun.


But he’s not. It’s obvious the club’s had a massive drop in quality, and to be honest, organization of the teams in-game. Being vocal about USSF’s shortcomings and holding them to a higher standard is one thing. Uncertified conmen is another.
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5) The program has no educational standards, starting from the program director. He openly disparages US soccer coaching education and doesn't really care about coaching education in general.



I think he's UEFA licensed, so it might be a good place for the folks on this board who can't stand US Soccer. Just a thought.


He has a Nothern Irish UEFA B. As far as UEFA licenses, it's one if the few ones with no standard for getting in. Also, does not justify his disdain for US soccer education or his disparaging of it. Is CYA a European club? Is he a European coach?


I don't know about justifying disdain, but it is notable that he actively avoided the US Soccer certs. I think it may say something about the mindset. Does it matter whether or not he is European? There are many here who prefer the European approach who have never even been to Europe.


There’s a big difference between a UEFA license attained at Coverciano and a Northern-Irish UEFA license...


Pretty much anyone can do the Irish FA B. It is not recognised by other European countries. There is also no confirmation that he passed it. He is against the US coaching system, even calling out US Soccer on Facebook the other day. Maybe that’s because he is afraid of being exposed in front of other coaches in the area for being a Terrible coach?


To me it sounds as if he got a token license and is just anti-cert


Anti-cert maybe. Anti-US Soccer definitely and publicly on Facebook. He sounds a lot like many on this forum. I think he'd be a popular guy with many on here.


I think it speaks volumes that nobody wants to work with him, whatever license he may or may not have. Plenty of good coaches out there with lower licenses, but you can always find a peer to say something positive.


The reality is a majority of the coaches that left did so because of promotions or better offers elsewhere. The previous TD certainly left for a better position. But if people left because of the current TD wouldn't it stand to reason that a good chunk of the coaches who left would have followed the previous guy if they thought so highly of him and he of them?


In addition to this, the PP made the assumption that the other coaches didn't want to work with him based on personality, when the reality was the power play. Lots of times people leave over a power play because they were on the losing end. It doesn't say anything about the character on either side, it's just part of the realities of life.

If he is more European in his approach and develops a program more in line with UEFA than USSF, i think they would provide a great alternative for those who aren't USSF fans in Fairfax and eastern Loudoun.


There's nothing "European" about his approach. There is general incompetence. The guy is a used car salesman and nothing more. And that personality very much had to do with why people left. There was a power play that he won not on merit but because his only friend at the club is the executive director. Nepotism at it's finest but doesn't change the fact that nobody that has or is working with him likes the guy.
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5) The program has no educational standards, starting from the program director. He openly disparages US soccer coaching education and doesn't really care about coaching education in general.



I think he's UEFA licensed, so it might be a good place for the folks on this board who can't stand US Soccer. Just a thought.


He has a Nothern Irish UEFA B. As far as UEFA licenses, it's one if the few ones with no standard for getting in. Also, does not justify his disdain for US soccer education or his disparaging of it. Is CYA a European club? Is he a European coach?


I don't know about justifying disdain, but it is notable that he actively avoided the US Soccer certs. I think it may say something about the mindset. Does it matter whether or not he is European? There are many here who prefer the European approach who have never even been to Europe.


There’s a big difference between a UEFA license attained at Coverciano and a Northern-Irish UEFA license...


Pretty much anyone can do the Irish FA B. It is not recognised by other European countries. There is also no confirmation that he passed it. He is against the US coaching system, even calling out US Soccer on Facebook the other day. Maybe that’s because he is afraid of being exposed in front of other coaches in the area for being a Terrible coach?


To me it sounds as if he got a token license and is just anti-cert


Anti-cert maybe. Anti-US Soccer definitely and publicly on Facebook. He sounds a lot like many on this forum. I think he'd be a popular guy with many on here.


I think it speaks volumes that nobody wants to work with him, whatever license he may or may not have. Plenty of good coaches out there with lower licenses, but you can always find a peer to say something positive.


The reality is a majority of the coaches that left did so because of promotions or better offers elsewhere. The previous TD certainly left for a better position. But if people left because of the current TD wouldn't it stand to reason that a good chunk of the coaches who left would have followed the previous guy if they thought so highly of him and he of them?


In addition to this, the PP made the assumption that the other coaches didn't want to work with him based on personality, when the reality was the power play. Lots of times people leave over a power play because they were on the losing end. It doesn't say anything about the character on either side, it's just part of the realities of life.

If he is more European in his approach and develops a program more in line with UEFA than USSF, i think they would provide a great alternative for those who aren't USSF fans in Fairfax and eastern Loudoun.


There's nothing "European" about his approach. There is general incompetence. The guy is a used car salesman and nothing more. And that personality very much had to do with why people left. There was a power play that he won not on merit but because his only friend at the club is the executive director. Nepotism at it's finest but doesn't change the fact that nobody that has or is working with him likes the guy.


Wow, you seem to have a lot of emotion involved. Are you one of the former CYA coaches?
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I live in Chantilly, can I say I'm European?
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Le Chantilliè
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Lots of complains about the TD's youth and inexperience in business matters. And he pissed off lots of his colleagues.

It doesn't say anything about his ability to coach though, or his style. Again, why rant against US Soccer and pursue a UEFA license (no matter from where). I don't think he's being insincere in that. I think you are confusing incompetence in handling business with general incompetence. Seems based on his past teams' performance he can't be all that bad at coaching, especially considering he didn't have the cream of the crop talent to work with at CYA.
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OP, as I mentioned in my first post of this thread I'm new to the area. You folks are way too involved, lots of good information on this board but you have to mine through miles of garbage.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, as I mentioned in my first post of this thread I'm new to the area. You folks are way too involved, lots of good information on this board but you have to mine through miles of garbage.


See, that's exactly the issue. I've been in this area for years and have multiple kids in travel, but still I see posts which someone new to the area would consider "good information" that are complete garbage.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, as I mentioned in my first post of this thread I'm new to the area. You folks are way too involved, lots of good information on this board but you have to mine through miles of garbage.


See, that's exactly the issue. I've been in this area for years and have multiple kids in travel, but still I see posts which someone new to the area would consider "good information" that are complete garbage.


The point being, you really need to take everything you read here with a grain of salt. The posts by Ranting Soccer Dad are the most trusted, in my opinion because he is accountable and his reputation is at stake. Everything posted under "anonymous" is done from behind the protection of a keyboard and screen veil, and there is no accountability. Lots of bad information on this forum, some good, and trying to figure out which is which is next to impossible without having experience with the given situations and knowing the "players."
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Anonymous wrote:Lots of complains about the TD's youth and inexperience in business matters. And he pissed off lots of his colleagues.

It doesn't say anything about his ability to coach though, or his style. Again, why rant against US Soccer and pursue a UEFA license (no matter from where). I don't think he's being insincere in that. I think you are confusing incompetence in handling business with general incompetence. Seems based on his past teams' performance he can't be all that bad at coaching, especially considering he didn't have the cream of the crop talent to work with at CYA.


How are you measuring his success as a coach? Team wins or players development? Either way, I don't know of any of his teams winning much and he's not sending players to play at higher levels. Plenty of coaches sent players to the DA and ECNL from CYA.
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