CYA vs SYA Soccer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ So you don’t have a kid who plays there and you still speak with authority. Please tell us what any of your hersay has anything to do with the merger other than you have a grudge against a club you have no direct connection with.

I never claimed to speak with authority. I hold no grudge, just making observations, certainly more than you have contributed to this conversation. Seeing as there hasn’t been anything posted about the merger at all, it appears you just have something bothering your rectal cavity.

You’re the one who is going on about your ex, just sayin.

You’re a troll who is making some weird comparisons about an ex and not adding anything substantial. Why did she dump you? Go back to her, she’ll take you back, no need to be afraid. You can discuss your merger that literally no one is talking about now, clown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ So you don’t have a kid who plays there and you still speak with authority. Please tell us what any of your hersay has anything to do with the merger other than you have a grudge against a club you have no direct connection with.

I never claimed to speak with authority. I hold no grudge, just making observations, certainly more than you have contributed to this conversation. Seeing as there hasn’t been anything posted about the merger at all, it appears you just have something bothering your rectal cavity.

You’re the one who is going on about your ex, just sayin.

You’re a troll who is making some weird comparisons about an ex and not adding anything substantial. Why did she dump you? Go back to her, she’ll take you back, no need to be afraid. You can discuss your merger that literally no one is talking about now, clown.

Because someone no longer at a club but is still observing practices a year later isn't weird? Please. The trolling is the person who is just coming in and derailing a discussion about a merger only to dig up their poor experience from a year ago because club management changed and their little prince or princess left the club only for the parent to remain bitter and continuing to bring it up like it was yesterday. Sorry if I am mocking their clingy attachment to a club they are no longer at. That behavior is mock-able. You want to carry on like a broken hearted fool because management at a YOUTH SOCCER CLUB changed and you don't like it be my guest but it is a huge waste of energy whether you are right or wrong.

Exactly what higher purpose are you even serving? "MUST TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH ABOUT CYA OR PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!"

It's freaking soccer pal, there are no fewer than 50 clubs in the area but you are all hung up on CYA. Jesus take your hard luck story to Oprah if its sooooooo bad.

Your kid played soccer, management and coaches changed, you moved to another club, end of story. Such a soap opera with you.

Also, essentially all you are spewing are nothing more than opinions, not facts. You are conflating your opinion on the factual timeline of how and when things happened with your own perception of what they meant to you and your player. In your opinion and your echo chamber the changes were all bad and you believe that to be fact. Other people who stayed agree with you which feeds your confirmation bias. Meanwhile there are those who stayed and have commented here that they are mostly happy have triggered you as not based in fact. True! Because, just like you, that is their perception and opinion. Their opinion is just as valid as yours. I'm not questioning your opinion, I am questioning why you give such a goddamn a year after you have left?

You left and that was right for you, you don't need to preach to people to leave because YOU left and you don't need to preach to people to not join because YOU left. Everyday you are away from the club your experience and knowledge of the inner workings of the club are rooted more in more in YOUR past and are not in fact based on present reality. Your friends who are still there are simply feeding your confirmation bias and are just an echo chamber that keeps you from seeing/hearing or believing in other opinions that in spite of your greatest fear the sky did not in fact fall and CYA is still standing as a club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ So you don’t have a kid who plays there and you still speak with authority. Please tell us what any of your hersay has anything to do with the merger other than you have a grudge against a club you have no direct connection with.

I never claimed to speak with authority. I hold no grudge, just making observations, certainly more than you have contributed to this conversation. Seeing as there hasn’t been anything posted about the merger at all, it appears you just have something bothering your rectal cavity.

You’re the one who is going on about your ex, just sayin.

You’re a troll who is making some weird comparisons about an ex and not adding anything substantial. Why did she dump you? Go back to her, she’ll take you back, no need to be afraid. You can discuss your merger that literally no one is talking about now, clown.

Because someone no longer at a club but is still observing practices a year later isn't weird? Please. The trolling is the person who is just coming in and derailing a discussion about a merger only to dig up their poor experience from a year ago because club management changed and their little prince or princess left the club only for the parent to remain bitter and continuing to bring it up like it was yesterday. Sorry if I am mocking their clingy attachment to a club they are no longer at. That behavior is mock-able. You want to carry on like a broken hearted fool because management at a YOUTH SOCCER CLUB changed and you don't like it be my guest but it is a huge waste of energy whether you are right or wrong.

Exactly what higher purpose are you even serving? "MUST TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH ABOUT CYA OR PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!"

It's freaking soccer pal, there are no fewer than 50 clubs in the area but you are all hung up on CYA. Jesus take your hard luck story to Oprah if its sooooooo bad.

Your kid played soccer, management and coaches changed, you moved to another club, end of story. Such a soap opera with you.

Also, essentially all you are spewing are nothing more than opinions, not facts. You are conflating your opinion on the factual timeline of how and when things happened with your own perception of what they meant to you and your player. In your opinion and your echo chamber the changes were all bad and you believe that to be fact. Other people who stayed agree with you which feeds your confirmation bias. Meanwhile there are those who stayed and have commented here that they are mostly happy have triggered you as not based in fact. True! Because, just like you, that is their perception and opinion. Their opinion is just as valid as yours. I'm not questioning your opinion, I am questioning why you give such a goddamn a year after you have left?

You left and that was right for you, you don't need to preach to people to leave because YOU left and you don't need to preach to people to not join because YOU left. Everyday you are away from the club your experience and knowledge of the inner workings of the club are rooted more in more in YOUR past and are not in fact based on present reality. Your friends who are still there are simply feeding your confirmation bias and are just an echo chamber that keeps you from seeing/hearing or believing in other opinions that in spite of your greatest fear the sky did not in fact fall and CYA is still standing as a club.

I literally have never said I left at any point. You should go see a shrink.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:This is why we need screen names.

Every time this is brought up, it’s roundly rejected. Or reported. I think it’s a great option to help identify posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ So you don’t have a kid who plays there and you still speak with authority. Please tell us what any of your hersay has anything to do with the merger other than you have a grudge against a club you have no direct connection with.

I never claimed to speak with authority. I hold no grudge, just making observations, certainly more than you have contributed to this conversation. Seeing as there hasn’t been anything posted about the merger at all, it appears you just have something bothering your rectal cavity.

You’re the one who is going on about your ex, just sayin.

You’re a troll who is making some weird comparisons about an ex and not adding anything substantial. Why did she dump you? Go back to her, she’ll take you back, no need to be afraid. You can discuss your merger that literally no one is talking about now, clown.

Because someone no longer at a club but is still observing practices a year later isn't weird? Please. The trolling is the person who is just coming in and derailing a discussion about a merger only to dig up their poor experience from a year ago because club management changed and their little prince or princess left the club only for the parent to remain bitter and continuing to bring it up like it was yesterday. Sorry if I am mocking their clingy attachment to a club they are no longer at. That behavior is mock-able. You want to carry on like a broken hearted fool because management at a YOUTH SOCCER CLUB changed and you don't like it be my guest but it is a huge waste of energy whether you are right or wrong.

Exactly what higher purpose are you even serving? "MUST TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH ABOUT CYA OR PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!"

It's freaking soccer pal, there are no fewer than 50 clubs in the area but you are all hung up on CYA. Jesus take your hard luck story to Oprah if its sooooooo bad.

Your kid played soccer, management and coaches changed, you moved to another club, end of story. Such a soap opera with you.

Also, essentially all you are spewing are nothing more than opinions, not facts. You are conflating your opinion on the factual timeline of how and when things happened with your own perception of what they meant to you and your player. In your opinion and your echo chamber the changes were all bad and you believe that to be fact. Other people who stayed agree with you which feeds your confirmation bias. Meanwhile there are those who stayed and have commented here that they are mostly happy have triggered you as not based in fact. True! Because, just like you, that is their perception and opinion. Their opinion is just as valid as yours. I'm not questioning your opinion, I am questioning why you give such a goddamn a year after you have left?

You left and that was right for you, you don't need to preach to people to leave because YOU left and you don't need to preach to people to not join because YOU left. Everyday you are away from the club your experience and knowledge of the inner workings of the club are rooted more in more in YOUR past and are not in fact based on present reality. Your friends who are still there are simply feeding your confirmation bias and are just an echo chamber that keeps you from seeing/hearing or believing in other opinions that in spite of your greatest fear the sky did not in fact fall and CYA is still standing as a club.

I literally have never said I left at any point. You should go see a shrink.

If you are there, then you probably should leave. If you have no first hand connection (friends and family do not count) to CYA at all then getting all triggered by me just makes you the other side of the same coin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ So you don’t have a kid who plays there and you still speak with authority. Please tell us what any of your hersay has anything to do with the merger other than you have a grudge against a club you have no direct connection with.

I never claimed to speak with authority. I hold no grudge, just making observations, certainly more than you have contributed to this conversation. Seeing as there hasn’t been anything posted about the merger at all, it appears you just have something bothering your rectal cavity.

You’re the one who is going on about your ex, just sayin.

You’re a troll who is making some weird comparisons about an ex and not adding anything substantial. Why did she dump you? Go back to her, she’ll take you back, no need to be afraid. You can discuss your merger that literally no one is talking about now, clown.

Because someone no longer at a club but is still observing practices a year later isn't weird? Please. The trolling is the person who is just coming in and derailing a discussion about a merger only to dig up their poor experience from a year ago because club management changed and their little prince or princess left the club only for the parent to remain bitter and continuing to bring it up like it was yesterday. Sorry if I am mocking their clingy attachment to a club they are no longer at. That behavior is mock-able. You want to carry on like a broken hearted fool because management at a YOUTH SOCCER CLUB changed and you don't like it be my guest but it is a huge waste of energy whether you are right or wrong.

Exactly what higher purpose are you even serving? "MUST TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH ABOUT CYA OR PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!"

It's freaking soccer pal, there are no fewer than 50 clubs in the area but you are all hung up on CYA. Jesus take your hard luck story to Oprah if its sooooooo bad.

Your kid played soccer, management and coaches changed, you moved to another club, end of story. Such a soap opera with you.

Also, essentially all you are spewing are nothing more than opinions, not facts. You are conflating your opinion on the factual timeline of how and when things happened with your own perception of what they meant to you and your player. In your opinion and your echo chamber the changes were all bad and you believe that to be fact. Other people who stayed agree with you which feeds your confirmation bias. Meanwhile there are those who stayed and have commented here that they are mostly happy have triggered you as not based in fact. True! Because, just like you, that is their perception and opinion. Their opinion is just as valid as yours. I'm not questioning your opinion, I am questioning why you give such a goddamn a year after you have left?

You left and that was right for you, you don't need to preach to people to leave because YOU left and you don't need to preach to people to not join because YOU left. Everyday you are away from the club your experience and knowledge of the inner workings of the club are rooted more in more in YOUR past and are not in fact based on present reality. Your friends who are still there are simply feeding your confirmation bias and are just an echo chamber that keeps you from seeing/hearing or believing in other opinions that in spite of your greatest fear the sky did not in fact fall and CYA is still standing as a club.

I literally have never said I left at any point. You should go see a shrink.

If you are there, then you probably should leave. If you have no first hand connection (friends and family do not count) to CYA at all then getting all triggered by me just makes you the other side of the same coin.

You gonna cry now?

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Can you guys just agree on a place to duel and get out of here?

Seriously, arguing about a club that's playing in the 4th tier of the local soccer scene. Kids will play there regardless and if they're good enough, they'll leave for other clubs. Plenty will stay because NoVa parents prefer to have their kid on an A team than a B team, regardless of circumstances. They'll continue to exist, just like every other club in the area, good product or bad. What they won't be able to do is get out of that hole. Merger or no merger, the DA and ECNL clubs will remain at the top for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Can you guys just agree on a place to duel and get out of here?

Seriously, arguing about a club that's playing in the 4th tier of the local soccer scene. Kids will play there regardless and if they're good enough, they'll leave for other clubs. Plenty will stay because NoVa parents prefer to have their kid on an A team than a B team, regardless of circumstances. They'll continue to exist, just like every other club in the area, good product or bad. What they won't be able to do is get out of that hole. Merger or no merger, the DA and ECNL clubs will remain at the top for the foreseeable future.

I think CYA is likely happy being what they are. I would imagine a SYA merger would simply increase their player pool and provide an overall more competitive product. I don't think CYA would have any ambitions beyond providing quality regional teams in leagues like CCL. There is room and a market for clubs that cater to a more sensible local travel soccer experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Can you guys just agree on a place to duel and get out of here?

Seriously, arguing about a club that's playing in the 4th tier of the local soccer scene. Kids will play there regardless and if they're good enough, they'll leave for other clubs. Plenty will stay because NoVa parents prefer to have their kid on an A team than a B team, regardless of circumstances. They'll continue to exist, just like every other club in the area, good product or bad. What they won't be able to do is get out of that hole. Merger or no merger, the DA and ECNL clubs will remain at the top for the foreseeable future.

I think CYA is likely happy being what they are. I would imagine a SYA merger would simply increase their player pool and provide an overall more competitive product. I don't think CYA would have any ambitions beyond providing quality regional teams in leagues like CCL. There is room and a market for clubs that cater to a more sensible local travel soccer experience.

I don't think CYA or SYA have much of a choice in where they want to be. That's the whole reason for the merger talk. And neither club is competing even regionally at this point. You're right that there's a market for them, however, I'm not sure what makes them more or less sensible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Can you guys just agree on a place to duel and get out of here?

Seriously, arguing about a club that's playing in the 4th tier of the local soccer scene. Kids will play there regardless and if they're good enough, they'll leave for other clubs. Plenty will stay because NoVa parents prefer to have their kid on an A team than a B team, regardless of circumstances. They'll continue to exist, just like every other club in the area, good product or bad. What they won't be able to do is get out of that hole. Merger or no merger, the DA and ECNL clubs will remain at the top for the foreseeable future.

I think CYA is likely happy being what they are. I would imagine a SYA merger would simply increase their player pool and provide an overall more competitive product. I don't think CYA would have any ambitions beyond providing quality regional teams in leagues like CCL. There is room and a market for clubs that cater to a more sensible local travel soccer experience.

I don't think CYA or SYA have much of a choice in where they want to be. That's the whole reason for the merger talk. And neither club is competing even regionally at this point. You're right that there's a market for them, however, I'm not sure what makes them more or less sensible.

No, they have a choice. If they wanted to get all their ducks in a row and try to be a DA or ECNL club they have had time to do that years ago. It just isn't what CYA and CYA soccer really wants to do. Remember, CYA is a very large sports organization not just a soccer club. CYA provides, Basketball, Track, Lacrosse etc. In fact soccer is just one of 12 sports and activities that they offer. SYA is similar in that they are also a multi-sport organization as well. SYA offers travel softball, volleyball, baseball, basketball and cheer on top of soccer.

Soccer is a big part of CYA but it isn't the only part. Their objective as an organization is to provide a quality sports organization for the Chantilly area. They simply do not have the desire to be a destination club like a Loudoun or FCV. They are more in line with Vienna in being a quality "low" cost community organization that offers kids a chance to play in many organized sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Can you guys just agree on a place to duel and get out of here?

Seriously, arguing about a club that's playing in the 4th tier of the local soccer scene. Kids will play there regardless and if they're good enough, they'll leave for other clubs. Plenty will stay because NoVa parents prefer to have their kid on an A team than a B team, regardless of circumstances. They'll continue to exist, just like every other club in the area, good product or bad. What they won't be able to do is get out of that hole. Merger or no merger, the DA and ECNL clubs will remain at the top for the foreseeable future.

I think CYA is likely happy being what they are. I would imagine a SYA merger would simply increase their player pool and provide an overall more competitive product. I don't think CYA would have any ambitions beyond providing quality regional teams in leagues like CCL. There is room and a market for clubs that cater to a more sensible local travel soccer experience.

I don't think CYA or SYA have much of a choice in where they want to be. That's the whole reason for the merger talk. And neither club is competing even regionally at this point. You're right that there's a market for them, however, I'm not sure what makes them more or less sensible.

No, they have a choice. If they wanted to get all their ducks in a row and try to be a DA or ECNL club they have had time to do that years ago. It just isn't what CYA and CYA soccer really wants to do. Remember, CYA is a very large sports organization not just a soccer club. CYA provides, Basketball, Track, Lacrosse etc. In fact soccer is just one of 12 sports and activities that they offer. SYA is similar in that they are also a multi-sport organization as well. SYA offers travel softball, volleyball, baseball, basketball and cheer on top of soccer.

Soccer is a big part of CYA but it isn't the only part. Their objective as an organization is to provide a quality sports organization for the Chantilly area. They simply do not have the desire to be a destination club like a Loudoun or FCV. They are more in line with Vienna in being a quality "low" cost community organization that offers kids a chance to play in many organized sports.

If ever there was proof that CYA management follows this thread... I'm surprised it wasn't written in purple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Can you guys just agree on a place to duel and get out of here?

Seriously, arguing about a club that's playing in the 4th tier of the local soccer scene. Kids will play there regardless and if they're good enough, they'll leave for other clubs. Plenty will stay because NoVa parents prefer to have their kid on an A team than a B team, regardless of circumstances. They'll continue to exist, just like every other club in the area, good product or bad. What they won't be able to do is get out of that hole. Merger or no merger, the DA and ECNL clubs will remain at the top for the foreseeable future.

I think CYA is likely happy being what they are. I would imagine a SYA merger would simply increase their player pool and provide an overall more competitive product. I don't think CYA would have any ambitions beyond providing quality regional teams in leagues like CCL. There is room and a market for clubs that cater to a more sensible local travel soccer experience.

I don't think CYA or SYA have much of a choice in where they want to be. That's the whole reason for the merger talk. And neither club is competing even regionally at this point. You're right that there's a market for them, however, I'm not sure what makes them more or less sensible.

No, they have a choice. If they wanted to get all their ducks in a row and try to be a DA or ECNL club they have had time to do that years ago. It just isn't what CYA and CYA soccer really wants to do. Remember, CYA is a very large sports organization not just a soccer club. CYA provides, Basketball, Track, Lacrosse etc. In fact soccer is just one of 12 sports and activities that they offer. SYA is similar in that they are also a multi-sport organization as well. SYA offers travel softball, volleyball, baseball, basketball and cheer on top of soccer.

Soccer is a big part of CYA but it isn't the only part. Their objective as an organization is to provide a quality sports organization for the Chantilly area. They simply do not have the desire to be a destination club like a Loudoun or FCV. They are more in line with Vienna in being a quality "low" cost community organization that offers kids a chance to play in many organized sports.

If ever there was proof that CYA management follows this thread... I'm surprised it wasn't written in purple.

CYA is more than just soccer. Facts.

SYA is more than just soccer. Facts.

If you think making such an observation means I’m management then you are a simple person who thinks soccer is the center of the universe. CYA purchased NOVA field house, not CYA Soccer.

[Anonymous]

CYA and SYA may have had opportunities at DA/ECNL but those opportunities aren't coming back around. They would have to join in with clubs currently offering it (like CYA had with VDA), but those clubs would mostly be doing it for field access. CYA is probably not welcome back to VDA after choosing to pull out last year. They are both multi sport clubs, but I don't think there was ever talks of merging anything but the travel soccer parts. And after nearly a year of rumors, all that's ever been said is that it won't happen by the CYA executive director. CYA must be happy, despite the declining numbers and talent pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CYA and SYA may have had opportunities at DA/ECNL but those opportunities aren't coming back around. They would have to join in with clubs currently offering it (like CYA had with VDA), but those clubs would mostly be doing it for field access. CYA is probably not welcome back to VDA after choosing to pull out last year. They are both multi sport clubs, but I don't think there was ever talks of merging anything but the travel soccer parts. And after nearly a year of rumors, all that's ever been said is that it won't happen by the CYA executive director. CYA must be happy, despite the declining numbers and talent pool.

No disagreement on that point but CYA is still a larger organization than just soccer and my guess is the organizations mission is not to be a destination club/organization but a community organization/club. I just don't think that from an organizational standpoint that there is a motivation beyond providing kids in the community a place to play their sport of interest in an organized and competitive setting. If kids are good enough for higher leagues, then good for them, they can pursue those opportunities elsewhere. But the overall cost of running a ECNL or DA program is likely to high a sticker price for the larger organization to bother investing in if it means reducing the other sports programs.

[Anonymous]

They're highlighting all the supposed virtues of staying out of DA/ECNL while talking about low cost. If you want to stick with the coffee analogy, it's a lot more like the hipster coffee shop saying they don't want to be Starbucks because they want locally sourced coffee beans.