White people

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.


Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.


Bryce? "Made up?" Only in the sense that all names are made up.

It's an old Scottish/Gaelic name. Lots of pro sports players, an award-winning Australian novelist, a former chairman/CEO of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, an United States Air Force four-star general.
Anonymous
White people can strive to be unique because they still have privilege. The rest of us (I’m Asian) can be unique but it comes at a cost since we are already not from the same background. I gave my kids ethnic names but ones that are very easy to pronounce in English. FWIW the white parents who like unique names always gush at my kids names.
Anonymous
I'm Black and I don't mind made up names (for the most part) but I don't like it when parents go out of their way to change the spelling of traditional names, attempting to make their kids stand out and be unique, when all you're doing is setting them up for a lifetime of frustration.

I have an ethnic name that was more "Black Power" in the 70s when I was born, but it's common with Black people now. My name is a little mainstream, but unfortunately, my parents chose to give it a cutesy spelling. *sigh* I've always considered changing it to the traditional spelling but I don't want to hurt their feelings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.


Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.


PP here. Bryce, Caden, Bentley, Aeverie( Avery) and Dalton are real names. Bryce and Caden are Gaelic. Bentley, Dalton, and Aeverie (Avery) are English. None of these are made up names. Don't make fun of them.

Seriously, I don't think it's the same. When there are white people with "unconventional" names, at most people might blame the kid's parents for being trendy or trying too hard to be different. But it's certainly not an instant of marker of being poor and uneducated in the same way it is for black people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm Black and I don't mind made up names (for the most part) but I don't like it when parents go out of their way to change the spelling of traditional names, attempting to make their kids stand out and be unique, when all you're doing is setting them up for a lifetime of frustration.

I have an ethnic name that was more "Black Power" in the 70s when I was born, but it's common with Black people now. My name is a little mainstream, but unfortunately, my parents chose to give it a cutesy spelling. *sigh* I've always considered changing it to the traditional spelling but I don't want to hurt their feelings.


Yes!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.


Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.


PP here. Bryce, Caden, Bentley, Aeverie( Avery) and Dalton are real names. Bryce and Caden are Gaelic. Bentley, Dalton, and Aeverie (Avery) are English. None of these are made up names. Don't make fun of them.

Seriously, I don't think it's the same. When there are white people with "unconventional" names, at most people might blame the kid's parents for being trendy or trying too hard to be different. But it's certainly not an instant of marker of being poor and uneducated in the same way it is for black people.

No, I disagree. A family with kids named Karsynn, Jace, and Nevaeh is almost certainly lower class than siblings named William, Claire, and Elizabeth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.


Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.


PP here. Bryce, Caden, Bentley, Aeverie( Avery) and Dalton are real names. Bryce and Caden are Gaelic. Bentley, Dalton, and Aeverie (Avery) are English. None of these are made up names. Don't make fun of them.

Seriously, I don't think it's the same. When there are white people with "unconventional" names, at most people might blame the kid's parents for being trendy or trying too hard to be different. But it's certainly not an instant of marker of being poor and uneducated in the same way it is for black people.



Nope, nope, nope.

Maybe when you are talking about rich white liberal hipster millennial type parents.

But I guarantee if you see a white kid with the name BaileeghAnne or Krysteen you are going to jump to teen mom naming their poor kid stripper names and not trendy, try too hard names.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.


Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.


Bryce? "Made up?" Only in the sense that all names are made up.

It's an old Scottish/Gaelic name. Lots of pro sports players, an award-winning Australian novelist, a former chairman/CEO of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, an United States Air Force four-star general.


Totally disagree, the weird / made up white names with Ys are low class and judged that way. People comment on the Aydins Kaydens Rhys Jayce etc they just don't say it to your face.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.


Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.


PP here. Bryce, Caden, Bentley, Aeverie( Avery) and Dalton are real names. Bryce and Caden are Gaelic. Bentley, Dalton, and Aeverie (Avery) are English. None of these are made up names. Don't make fun of them.

Seriously, I don't think it's the same. When there are white people with "unconventional" names, at most people might blame the kid's parents for being trendy or trying too hard to be different. But it's certainly not an instant of marker of being poor and uneducated in the same way it is for black people.



Nope, nope, nope.

Maybe when you are talking about rich white liberal hipster millennial type parents.

But I guarantee if you see a white kid with the name BaileeghAnne or Krysteen you are going to jump to teen mom naming their poor kid stripper names and not trendy, try too hard names.


Like Krysten Ritter, the actress? (I know Krysten is not Krysteen but it's a similar type of name.) I don't think anyone's judging her for having a "stripper" name.
Anonymous
Non-traditional names can present an implicit threat, while traditional names are more conformist and therefore comforting. Whether that is “polite” or “correct”, etc, is another story.
Anonymous
What about KellyAnne? Or Peggy Sue?
Anonymous
From the perspective of this white person:

Yes, you can make judgments on popular "white" names. Especially these days. There is a strong socio-economic correlation with names, much more so today than 50 years ago when names were more uniform across the spectrum.

" Karsynn, Jace, and Nevaeh is almost certainly lower class than siblings named William, Claire, and Elizabeth" is harsh but likely true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Non-traditional names can present an implicit threat, while traditional names are more conformist and therefore comforting. Whether that is “polite” or “correct”, etc, is another story.


Threat?

Non-trad names are much more likely to be of lower socioeconomic status so I hardly see them as threats but a good indication of the kind of person I'm going to be dealing with.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I try to never mispronounce ANYONE's name, regardless of race. I may think "Oh you poor thing" when I meet a black girl named Dy'mond Kulture but would never say anything to a child. If I were close friends with Dy'mond and she brought up her name, I might ask if she's ever thought of having it legally changed.

I work in HR and recruiting and don't judge based on name. I judge based on eye contact, fit of clothing (not brands, but are the pants sagging, are b**bs showing), mumbling, etc. THOSE are the things that tell me DeMarcus has eaten fast food for dinner and regularly had the electricity turned off and many "fathers" traipsed through his apartment.


I grew up white UMC and have known many, many people who grew up rich yet still can't maintain eye contact, wear appropriate clothes, and mumble. Often it's even worse than among other people because their parents spoiled them rotten and/or didn't have the time to teach them how to behave.


Most UMC or white children who fail to make eye contact will be sent to occupational therapy. If such children mumble, they are sent to speech therapy. Every "failure" or deviation from the norm is corrected for, or excused by special needs. Black/lower class children are blamed for problems like this, however, and written off as willful misconduct issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.


Of course it is - don't be ridiculous. My family is from a tiny town out west where all the (white) kids are given made up names, like Bentley, Bryce, Caden, Saylor, Aeverie, Dalton, etc. You don't hear those names here because they are made fun of and judged as being all of the above. Which, to be fair - they usually are.


PP here. Bryce, Caden, Bentley, Aeverie( Avery) and Dalton are real names. Bryce and Caden are Gaelic. Bentley, Dalton, and Aeverie (Avery) are English. None of these are made up names. Don't make fun of them.

Seriously, I don't think it's the same. When there are white people with "unconventional" names, at most people might blame the kid's parents for being trendy or trying too hard to be different. But it's certainly not an instant of marker of being poor and uneducated in the same way it is for black people.



Nope, nope, nope.

Maybe when you are talking about rich white liberal hipster millennial type parents.

But I guarantee if you see a white kid with the name BaileeghAnne or Krysteen you are going to jump to teen mom naming their poor kid stripper names and not trendy, try too hard names.



Rich liberal hipsters name their kids things like Artemis and Imogen. Not Bentley. Bentley's mom is a midwestern nurse or teacher.
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