My child got detention for walking out

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

Try to focus: We're talking about gun control. I know your lizard brain is conditioned to whataboutism. But FOCUS, darling. FOCUS.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

np. You haven't answered the question about who makes the determination as to which protests are allowed. And how is that decided? Who has input? Should pro-life protests be allowed, too?

Excellent. You went to your phone to post. Crafty! You are obviously baiting and being purposely obtuse. Keep talking.

You've answered no questions. You can't. You lost.

I think we know who is the "loser" (sic) here.

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, I would just tell the kid that the cause was worth the detention and let him/her serve. I do think the school is shitty for giving them detention though.

Why?

OP: I didn't write this, but schools exist to educate our children. This is an opportunity to encourage civic engagement. These kids are finally going to change our idiotic gun laws -- schools should be encouraging that, not suppressing it.

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PP who agrees with OP and hopes nothing more than karma on the PP who does not.

1) What civic engagement is going on here? An allowed walkout is an oxymoron.
2) How should schools decide which issues, and which sides, are allowed? Should students be allowed to engage in anti-abortion civic engagement?

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Black on black violence is killing far more kids than school shootings. The kids should be worried about that.

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Anonymous wrote:Cobb County, GA is giving students a 5 day suspension for a 17-minute walkout that doesn't leave school grounds.

That, I'd protest, but I'd also be proud of my kid for making a sacrifice to do what's right.

Yeah, that’s definite grounds for a lawsuit. Looks like school officials in Cobb County forgot to take that School Law class where they could have read about Tinker v. Des Moines and how the Supreme Court ruled on that one. Hopefully the ACLU is on this.

I don't think many people are worried about what is going on in Cobb County, or look to it as a mecca of tolerance and understanding. LOL.

Actually I am worried. And I believe others as well.
“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” MLK Jr

HAHAHAHA Nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:I told her part of civil disobedience is accepting consequences for actions. But part of me is curious whether I can override the school's discipline here? I'm kind of pissed off at the school for not giving an alternative outlet for kids to express themselves. So, I'm torn as I really want to make my displeasure to the school known and make it clear I don't recognize their authority to discipline my child in this matter. I consider the detention to be unlawful detainment. Any suggestions?

(Under normal circumstances I wouldn't do anything like this, but I take great offense at LCPS suppressing student walkouts).

I don't get it. Are you saying that school administrations should pick and choose over what issues kids should be allowed to violate the rules to support?

If another child supports the Constitutional protection of gun rights, and decides to walk out over it next week, should the school punish her and not your child?

Weird whataboutism. Tens of thousands of kids are not walking out of school in defense of the second amendment. Try to keep up.

np. That's not whataboutism. As you said, it doesn't even exist right now, so it can't be. However, the point of the question is what protests should be allowed, and what shouldn't, and who gets to decide that?

The kids. There aren't kids clamoring to walk out in defense of the second amendment. That's because you protest for CHANGE, not for status quo.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

Yes, on school grounds. Not that it even matters, really, does it? Do you think the parents care about whether their children were murdered on school property?

I think parents have a reasonable belief that their child should be safe from people like you when the children attend school. Get this: WITHOUT armed teachers (for example). Here is why:

"Gun trained teacher sets off firearm in classroom" (CA):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/14/teacher-accidentally-discharges-firearm-in-calif-classroom-he-was-trained-in-gun-use/?utm_term=.34f3e104aa01

Then there is this beauty (GA):
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/us/georgia-dalton-high-school-teacher-gunfire/index.html

What's your point? The only protests that should be allowed are the ones you agree with? Really? What? Idiot?

Name calling. My, you ARE the brilliant one! LOL. Yes, that does encourage me to answer your question. Wait right there.

Wasn't me. More than one person disagrees with you here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, I would just tell the kid that the cause was worth the detention and let him/her serve. I do think the school is shitty for giving them detention though.

Why?

OP: I didn't write this, but schools exist to educate our children. This is an opportunity to encourage civic engagement. These kids are finally going to change our idiotic gun laws -- schools should be encouraging that, not suppressing it.

+1

PP who agrees with OP and hopes nothing more than karma on the PP who does not.

1) What civic engagement is going on here? An allowed walkout is an oxymoron.
2) How should schools decide which issues, and which sides, are allowed? Should students be allowed to engage in anti-abortion civic engagement?

You tell us, you are positively enthralled with this question. Oh, and name calling. Don't forget the name calling. It erases any sign of ignorance. Yup.

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Anonymous wrote:I told her part of civil disobedience is accepting consequences for actions. But part of me is curious whether I can override the school's discipline here? I'm kind of pissed off at the school for not giving an alternative outlet for kids to express themselves. So, I'm torn as I really want to make my displeasure to the school known and make it clear I don't recognize their authority to discipline my child in this matter. I consider the detention to be unlawful detainment. Any suggestions?

(Under normal circumstances I wouldn't do anything like this, but I take great offense at LCPS suppressing student walkouts).

I don't get it. Are you saying that school administrations should pick and choose over what issues kids should be allowed to violate the rules to support?

If another child supports the Constitutional protection of gun rights, and decides to walk out over it next week, should the school punish her and not your child?

Weird whataboutism. Tens of thousands of kids are not walking out of school in defense of the second amendment. Try to keep up.

np. That's not whataboutism. As you said, it doesn't even exist right now, so it can't be. However, the point of the question is what protests should be allowed, and what shouldn't, and who gets to decide that?

The kids. There aren't kids clamoring to walk out in defense of the second amendment. That's because you protest for CHANGE, not for status quo.

So any kid is free to walk out of school at any time to protest whatever he wants?

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

Yes, on school grounds. Not that it even matters, really, does it? Do you think the parents care about whether their children were murdered on school property?

I think parents have a reasonable belief that their child should be safe from people like you when the children attend school. Get this: WITHOUT armed teachers (for example). Here is why:

"Gun trained teacher sets off firearm in classroom" (CA):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/14/teacher-accidentally-discharges-firearm-in-calif-classroom-he-was-trained-in-gun-use/?utm_term=.34f3e104aa01

Then there is this beauty (GA):
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/us/georgia-dalton-high-school-teacher-gunfire/index.html

What's your point? The only protests that should be allowed are the ones you agree with? Really? What? Idiot?

Name calling. My, you ARE the brilliant one! LOL. Yes, that does encourage me to answer your question. Wait right there.

Wasn't me. More than one person disagrees with you here.

Quick! back to your phone!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Black on black violence is killing far more kids than school shootings. The kids should be worried about that.

We can worry about more than one thing. We have brains.

What about you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I told her part of civil disobedience is accepting consequences for actions. But part of me is curious whether I can override the school's discipline here? I'm kind of pissed off at the school for not giving an alternative outlet for kids to express themselves. So, I'm torn as I really want to make my displeasure to the school known and make it clear I don't recognize their authority to discipline my child in this matter. I consider the detention to be unlawful detainment. Any suggestions?

(Under normal circumstances I wouldn't do anything like this, but I take great offense at LCPS suppressing student walkouts).

I don't get it. Are you saying that school administrations should pick and choose over what issues kids should be allowed to violate the rules to support?

If another child supports the Constitutional protection of gun rights, and decides to walk out over it next week, should the school punish her and not your child?

Weird whataboutism. Tens of thousands of kids are not walking out of school in defense of the second amendment. Try to keep up.

np. That's not whataboutism. As you said, it doesn't even exist right now, so it can't be. However, the point of the question is what protests should be allowed, and what shouldn't, and who gets to decide that?

The kids. There aren't kids clamoring to walk out in defense of the second amendment. That's because you protest for CHANGE, not for status quo.

So any kid is free to walk out of school at any time to protest whatever he wants?

^^We are waiting for YOU to answer the question you are posing. Go ahead, we will wait.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yup, I would just tell the kid that the cause was worth the detention and let him/her serve. I do think the school is shitty for giving them detention though.

Why?

OP: I didn't write this, but schools exist to educate our children. This is an opportunity to encourage civic engagement. These kids are finally going to change our idiotic gun laws -- schools should be encouraging that, not suppressing it.

+1

PP who agrees with OP and hopes nothing more than karma on the PP who does not.

1) What civic engagement is going on here? An allowed walkout is an oxymoron.
2) How should schools decide which issues, and which sides, are allowed? Should students be allowed to engage in anti-abortion civic engagement?

You tell us, you are positively enthralled with this question. Oh, and name calling. Don't forget the name calling. It erases any sign of ignorance. Yup.

NP I have called nobody any names. I would say that schools have no right to decide which issues should be endorsed with allowed protests, and which issues students are not allowed to protest. I'd be interested to hear someone argue specifically against that point.

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Anonymous wrote:Black on black violence is killing far more kids than school shootings. The kids should be worried about that.

We can worry about more than one thing. We have brains.

What about you?

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I'm worried about guys like (upper PP) shooting up a school, or his neighbors house, or the grocery, or pretty much anywhere his distorted brain leads him.....

"It's a freudian thing, you wouldn't understand".

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, I would just tell the kid that the cause was worth the detention and let him/her serve. I do think the school is shitty for giving them detention though.

Why?

OP: I didn't write this, but schools exist to educate our children. This is an opportunity to encourage civic engagement. These kids are finally going to change our idiotic gun laws -- schools should be encouraging that, not suppressing it.

+1

PP who agrees with OP and hopes nothing more than karma on the PP who does not.

1) What civic engagement is going on here? An allowed walkout is an oxymoron.
2) How should schools decide which issues, and which sides, are allowed? Should students be allowed to engage in anti-abortion civic engagement?

You tell us, you are positively enthralled with this question. Oh, and name calling. Don't forget the name calling. It erases any sign of ignorance. Yup.

NP I have called nobody any names. I would say that schools have no right to decide which issues should be endorsed with allowed protests, and which issues students are not allowed to protest. I'd be interested to hear someone argue specifically against that point.

I agree with this. And that means that if you want to protest for stricter gun laws, you have to accept whatever standard consequence the school imposes for your actions. You can not expect accomodations because you happen to believe that your protest is the correct one.