My child got detention for walking out

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

Yes, on school grounds. Not that it even matters, really, does it? Do you think the parents care about whether their children were murdered on school property?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a one day detention? Just let the kid serve it proudly. Get home work done. Like you said, civil disobedience has consequences and that is okay. Your kid did the right thing and he or she knows that.

Yeah, I'm torn between the lessons. On the one hand, yeah, civil disobedience has consequences. On the other hand, I genuinely don't recognize the authority of the school to detain my child for this. Maybe not a hill worth dying on.

Why don't you recognize their authority? Because she walked out for a good reason that you agreed with? What if she had walked out for a reason you didn't agree with, or started protesting daily or something?

I would think she'd serve this detention as a badge of honor, and you ought to help her see it that way. If you ALSO want to send a strongly-worded statement to the administration expressing your disappointment and anget that they didn't accommodate the walkout or offer an alternative, that's a good plan, too.

What's the point of an "accomodated" walkout? It makes as much sense as a sit-in when you're invited to the dinner.

The point is facilitating the students' civic involvement, which some schools are doing. The stated reason for the walkout is to commemorate the Parkland victims and other victims of school shootings. In that narrow reading of the point of the walkout, it would be fine for schools to accommodate it, or to say they won't punish kids for it.

Kids are being asked to do this regardless, but there's no rule that says some schools can't also buck the system as a whole.

So it's not actually a protest? They just want to have a moment of silence?

Maybe you tell your child how to protest, if they are even allowed to do so (doubt it) - but some of us do not live in a dictatorship household.

I'm not talking about individual households, I'm talking about what you said is the stated purpose of the walkout. It sounds like it's not actually a protest. Is that right?

Believe it or not, there is more than one poster who disagrees with you. But please, keep acting as if there is one. It is entertaining.

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its just one detention I am okay with it, It will not even go on their school record she be fine

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

np. You haven't answered the question about who makes the determination as to which protests are allowed. And how is that decided? Who has input? Should pro-life protests be allowed, too?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a one day detention? Just let the kid serve it proudly. Get home work done. Like you said, civil disobedience has consequences and that is okay. Your kid did the right thing and he or she knows that.

Yeah, I'm torn between the lessons. On the one hand, yeah, civil disobedience has consequences. On the other hand, I genuinely don't recognize the authority of the school to detain my child for this. Maybe not a hill worth dying on.

Why don't you recognize their authority? Because she walked out for a good reason that you agreed with? What if she had walked out for a reason you didn't agree with, or started protesting daily or something?

I would think she'd serve this detention as a badge of honor, and you ought to help her see it that way. If you ALSO want to send a strongly-worded statement to the administration expressing your disappointment and anget that they didn't accommodate the walkout or offer an alternative, that's a good plan, too.

What's the point of an "accomodated" walkout? It makes as much sense as a sit-in when you're invited to the dinner.

The point is facilitating the students' civic involvement, which some schools are doing. The stated reason for the walkout is to commemorate the Parkland victims and other victims of school shootings. In that narrow reading of the point of the walkout, it would be fine for schools to accommodate it, or to say they won't punish kids for it.

Kids are being asked to do this regardless, but there's no rule that says some schools can't also buck the system as a whole.

So it's not actually a protest? They just want to have a moment of silence?

Maybe you tell your child how to protest, if they are even allowed to do so (doubt it) - but some of us do not live in a dictatorship household.

I'm not talking about individual households, I'm talking about what you said is the stated purpose of the walkout. It sounds like it's not actually a protest. Is that right?

Believe it or not, there is more than one poster who disagrees with you. But please, keep acting as if there is one. It is entertaining.

I'm also a different poster. I'm the one asking you about how a school should determine what protests it allows.

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Anonymous wrote:I told her part of civil disobedience is accepting consequences for actions. But part of me is curious whether I can override the school's discipline here? I'm kind of pissed off at the school for not giving an alternative outlet for kids to express themselves. So, I'm torn as I really want to make my displeasure to the school known and make it clear I don't recognize their authority to discipline my child in this matter. I consider the detention to be unlawful detainment. Any suggestions?

(Under normal circumstances I wouldn't do anything like this, but I take great offense at LCPS suppressing student walkouts).

I don't get it. Are you saying that school administrations should pick and choose over what issues kids should be allowed to violate the rules to support?

If another child supports the Constitutional protection of gun rights, and decides to walk out over it next week, should the school punish her and not your child?

Weird whataboutism. Tens of thousands of kids are not walking out of school in defense of the second amendment. Try to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Cobb County, GA is giving students a 5 day suspension for a 17-minute walkout that doesn't leave school grounds.

That, I'd protest, but I'd also be proud of my kid for making a sacrifice to do what's right.

Yeah, that’s definite grounds for a lawsuit. Looks like school officials in Cobb County forgot to take that School Law class where they could have read about Tinker v. Des Moines and how the Supreme Court ruled on that one. Hopefully the ACLU is on this.

I don't think many people are worried about what is going on in Cobb County, or look to it as a mecca of tolerance and understanding. LOL.

Actually I am worried. And I believe others as well.
“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” MLK Jr

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

Yes, on school grounds. Not that it even matters, really, does it? Do you think the parents care about whether their children were murdered on school property?

I think parents have a reasonable belief that their child should be safe from people like you when the children attend school. Get this: WITHOUT armed teachers (for example). Here is why:

"Gun trained teacher sets off firearm in classroom" (CA):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/14/teacher-accidentally-discharges-firearm-in-calif-classroom-he-was-trained-in-gun-use/?utm_term=.34f3e104aa01

Then there is this beauty (GA):
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/us/georgia-dalton-high-school-teacher-gunfire/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:I told her part of civil disobedience is accepting consequences for actions. But part of me is curious whether I can override the school's discipline here? I'm kind of pissed off at the school for not giving an alternative outlet for kids to express themselves. So, I'm torn as I really want to make my displeasure to the school known and make it clear I don't recognize their authority to discipline my child in this matter. I consider the detention to be unlawful detainment. Any suggestions?

(Under normal circumstances I wouldn't do anything like this, but I take great offense at LCPS suppressing student walkouts).

I don't get it. Are you saying that school administrations should pick and choose over what issues kids should be allowed to violate the rules to support?

If another child supports the Constitutional protection of gun rights, and decides to walk out over it next week, should the school punish her and not your child?

Weird whataboutism. Tens of thousands of kids are not walking out of school in defense of the second amendment. Try to keep up.

np. That's not whataboutism. As you said, it doesn't even exist right now, so it can't be. However, the point of the question is what protests should be allowed, and what shouldn't, and who gets to decide that?

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, I would just tell the kid that the cause was worth the detention and let him/her serve. I do think the school is shitty for giving them detention though.

Why?

OP: I didn't write this, but schools exist to educate our children. This is an opportunity to encourage civic engagement. These kids are finally going to change our idiotic gun laws -- schools should be encouraging that, not suppressing it.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

np. You haven't answered the question about who makes the determination as to which protests are allowed. And how is that decided? Who has input? Should pro-life protests be allowed, too?

Excellent. You went to your phone to post. Crafty! You are obviously baiting and being purposely obtuse. Keep talking.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

Yes, on school grounds. Not that it even matters, really, does it? Do you think the parents care about whether their children were murdered on school property?

I think parents have a reasonable belief that their child should be safe from people like you when the children attend school. Get this: WITHOUT armed teachers (for example). Here is why:

"Gun trained teacher sets off firearm in classroom" (CA):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/14/teacher-accidentally-discharges-firearm-in-calif-classroom-he-was-trained-in-gun-use/?utm_term=.34f3e104aa01

Then there is this beauty (GA):
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/us/georgia-dalton-high-school-teacher-gunfire/index.html

What's your point? The only protests that should be allowed are the ones you agree with? Really? What? Idiot?

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, I would just tell the kid that the cause was worth the detention and let him/her serve. I do think the school is shitty for giving them detention though.

Why?

OP: I didn't write this, but schools exist to educate our children. This is an opportunity to encourage civic engagement. These kids are finally going to change our idiotic gun laws -- schools should be encouraging that, not suppressing it.

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PP who agrees with OP and hopes nothing more than karma on the PP who does not.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

np. You haven't answered the question about who makes the determination as to which protests are allowed. And how is that decided? Who has input? Should pro-life protests be allowed, too?

Excellent. You went to your phone to post. Crafty! You are obviously baiting and being purposely obtuse. Keep talking.

You've answered no questions. You can't. You lost.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer the school give you the option of a one-day out-of-school suspension so it's not an "unlawful detainment"? Or are you just looking to get your kid out of any consequences? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the schools that are giving kids a pass on this, but part of this kind of civic action is learning and weighing the consequences, so I think your child has been given a very valuable lesson here.

Who should determine the correct political issues for which schools give children a pass?

Any issue that involves children getting murdered at school should be allowed a "pass".

So if, for example, an illegal immigrant kills a student, students across the country will be free to protest lax immigration enforcement and sanctuary cities by walking out?

What about if kids want to protest gang/drug shootings in places like Chicago or Baltimore, which sometimes happen in school yards, and the societal breakdown that exacerbates them? They should have the freedom to do so?

I don't think either of those scenarios have produced the number of innocent victims (who were, by the way, going about their day at school) that the multiple school shooters who had ready access to killing machines. Nice try though.

Gang violence has DEFINITELY killed more students than the popularized mass shootings? Are you dumb? Please answer the question. Which issues should students always be allowed to protest, and who makes that determination.

ON SCHOOL GROUNDS? ARE *YOU* DUMB? I know the answer, as you can not read.

Yes, on school grounds. Not that it even matters, really, does it? Do you think the parents care about whether their children were murdered on school property?

I think parents have a reasonable belief that their child should be safe from people like you when the children attend school. Get this: WITHOUT armed teachers (for example). Here is why:

"Gun trained teacher sets off firearm in classroom" (CA):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/14/teacher-accidentally-discharges-firearm-in-calif-classroom-he-was-trained-in-gun-use/?utm_term=.34f3e104aa01

Then there is this beauty (GA):
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/us/georgia-dalton-high-school-teacher-gunfire/index.html

What's your point? The only protests that should be allowed are the ones you agree with? Really? What? Idiot?

Name calling. My, you ARE the brilliant one! LOL. Yes, that does encourage me to answer your question. Wait right there.