Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss Part II

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't see a separate reason for a separate girls' thread. So many issues affect both boys and girls.

I could actually see making a separate thread for NCSL and ODSL just so it'd be free from all the chest-beating about the DA, ECNL, CCL and VPL, but I don't quite care enough to do it. Besides, Angry CCL Guy would probably turn up in that thread anyway.

No separate threads are needed, if you are starting out in travel soccer you will have nothing to do with DA, ECNL, etc and regardless would benefit(at least I did) from seeing the kinds of issues that arise from those leagues, programs for the older children that will soon affect you. On the Girls and Boys, i can't see any reason why the two would be needed, often the issues affecting a club/program/league are gender-wide. Likewise the paths within Youth Soccer in NOVA are very similar. Now if you want to discuss paths to college or Pro, those are very different, and I don't think you would be best served reading anything here as most posters here have children in 6-16 years of age(from what I gather) and likewise most would fact-free opinions anyway.

[Anonymous]

Maybe one day, every club will have its own league. Every club will be a state champion.

LOL...That is hilarious!! Maybe we should go back to giving every kid a participation trophy too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We really need to have separate girls and boys traveling soccer thread.

There is a link at the top of the page title "Post New Topic". Please use it or STFU. This is the second time you have bitched about needing another thread.

I know it's hard to believe, but we're actually two different posters. Simmer down.

Either way it has been stated twice within a week. The link is and has always been there so no, both posters can just create a thread and not suggest that one be made. The same effort that went into the suggestion could have gone into creating the thread.

Can someone please explain why they think we should have separate threads for boys and girls?

Personally, I get the most information from this blog about clubs first, then leagues. From what I can see and hear, there are big differences in clubs on girls and boys sides. Vienna and BRYC, for example, are well-known clubs for girls. Not as much on the boys side. My own club is definitely better with boys than girls. I don't know why, but it could be one reason for separating a thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't see a separate reason for a separate girls' thread. So many issues affect both boys and girls.

I could actually see making a separate thread for NCSL and ODSL just so it'd be free from all the chest-beating about the DA, ECNL, CCL and VPL, but I don't quite care enough to do it. Besides, Angry CCL Guy would probably turn up in that thread anyway.

No separate threads are needed, if you are starting out in travel soccer you will have nothing to do with DA, ECNL, etc and regardless would benefit(at least I did) from seeing the kinds of issues that arise from those leagues, programs for the older children that will soon affect you. On the Girls and Boys, i can't see any reason why the two would be needed, often the issues affecting a club/program/league are gender-wide. Likewise the paths within Youth Soccer in NOVA are very similar. Now if you want to discuss paths to college or Pro, those are very different, and I don't think you would be best served reading anything here as most posters here have children in 6-16 years of age(from what I gather) and likewise most would fact-free opinions anyway.

Then make a effing second thread! What is so hard about this? It is not anything that needs to be debated, discussed or voted upon. You just need to click a button and type whatever it is you wish to discuss. It really is that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't see a separate reason for a separate girls' thread. So many issues affect both boys and girls.

I could actually see making a separate thread for NCSL and ODSL just so it'd be free from all the chest-beating about the DA, ECNL, CCL and VPL, but I don't quite care enough to do it. Besides, Angry CCL Guy would probably turn up in that thread anyway.

LOL. Where is that CCL guy anyway? I wonder what he thinks about discussions among CCL leadership of dividing into Northern and Southern conferences. Will that be enough to silence the critics that hate, not the travel, but the travel to play some alleged really bad teams?

[Anonymous]

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LOL. Where is that CCL guy anyway? I wonder what he thinks about discussions among CCL leadership of dividing into Northern and Southern conferences. Will that be enough to silence the critics that hate, not the travel, but the travel to play some alleged really bad teams?

Not the CCL guy, but I was pretty disappointed this past weekend in some of the CCL games I saw. Some major blowouts in some of the younger ages, and coaches were holding back some of the teams from scoring more.

[Anonymous]

^^ PP must be talking about Arlington's 8 year old boys + girls beating up on Mclean's U9s . . . I think the OP was talking about the food fights with Angry CCL Guy over the long drives to Roanoke at the older ages (although he has argued a lot in here that CCL is a great league for the u-littles)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ PP must be talking about Arlington's 8 year old boys + girls beating up on Mclean's U9s . . . I think the OP was talking about the food fights with Angry CCL Guy over the long drives to Roanoke at the older ages (although he has argued a lot in here that CCL is a great league for the u-littles)

You are conflating two individual people.

[Anonymous]

You know what info I'd love to see here?

How many kids from each club make their high school teams. Then how many go to college, though that is to *some* extent available publicly if people really want to dig through recruiting sites and college rosters.

I'd love to know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what info I'd love to see here?

How many kids from each club make their high school teams. Then how many go to college, though that is to *some* extent available publicly if people really want to dig through recruiting sites and college rosters.

I'd love to know that.

Our HS has close to 1,000 students in the Freshman class (close to 4K total). With 16-18 making JV and 16-18 making Varsity that is an incredibly small number. Not to mention, many of the kids play for Clubs other than their home Clubs by then.

Around 34 boys soccer players out of 4,000. Chances are slim.

I say that as somebody that won a VA HS State Championship on the Varsity team as a Freshmen, but my HS class size was about 400 students in my grade.

[Anonymous]

the really good kids don't play for their high schools- they keep playing for the good clubs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We really need to have separate girls and boys traveling soccer thread.

There is a link at the top of the page title "Post New Topic". Please use it or STFU. This is the second time you have bitched about needing another thread.

I know it's hard to believe, but we're actually two different posters. Simmer down.

Either way it has been stated twice within a week. The link is and has always been there so no, both posters can just create a thread and not suggest that one be made. The same effort that went into the suggestion could have gone into creating the thread.

Can someone please explain why they think we should have separate threads for boys and girls?

Personally, I get the most information from this blog about clubs first, then leagues. From what I can see and hear, there are big differences in clubs on girls and boys sides. Vienna and BRYC, for example, are well-known clubs for girls. Not as much on the boys side. My own club is definitely better with boys than girls. I don't know why, but it could be one reason for separating a thread.

Yep that is true. Boys and girls are not the same on many clubs. I know one small club where they ignore the girls. They are a total after thought. On a another club the girls u8-u11 program is wreck, but the boys side is okay. The sad thing is the knowledgeable parents leave and the ones who stay think they are in a good program. I think the response to the separate threats is part of the "soccer culture". It's the same response that the travel soccer tryout thread got. Oh know one will have any questions about tryouts or which clubs are having tryouts, blah, blah, blah. It's shows a lack of knowledge to say the boys and girls program at each club in the area are the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't see a separate reason for a separate girls' thread. So many issues affect both boys and girls.

I could actually see making a separate thread for NCSL and ODSL just so it'd be free from all the chest-beating about the DA, ECNL, CCL and VPL, but I don't quite care enough to do it. Besides, Angry CCL Guy would probably turn up in that thread anyway.

LOL. Where is that CCL guy anyway? I wonder what he thinks about discussions among CCL leadership of dividing into Northern and Southern conferences. Will that be enough to silence the critics that hate, not the travel, but the travel to play some alleged really bad teams?

Are you part of that CCL leadership ? How do you know what BS they are coming up with now ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We really need to have separate girls and boys traveling soccer thread.

There is a link at the top of the page title "Post New Topic". Please use it or STFU. This is the second time you have bitched about needing another thread.

I know it's hard to believe, but we're actually two different posters. Simmer down.

Either way it has been stated twice within a week. The link is and has always been there so no, both posters can just create a thread and not suggest that one be made. The same effort that went into the suggestion could have gone into creating the thread.

Can someone please explain why they think we should have separate threads for boys and girls?

Personally, I get the most information from this blog about clubs first, then leagues. From what I can see and hear, there are big differences in clubs on girls and boys sides. Vienna and BRYC, for example, are well-known clubs for girls. Not as much on the boys side. My own club is definitely better with boys than girls. I don't know why, but it could be one reason for separating a thread.

Yep that is true. Boys and girls are not the same on many clubs. I know one small club where they ignore the girls. They are a total after thought. On a another club the girls u8-u11 program is wreck, but the boys side is okay. The sad thing is the knowledgeable parents leave and the ones who stay think they are in a good program. I think the response to the separate threats is part of the "soccer culture". It's the same response that the travel soccer tryout thread got. Oh know one will have any questions about tryouts or which clubs are having tryouts, blah, blah, blah. It's shows a lack of knowledge to say the boys and girls program at each club in the area are the same.

Isn't your statement an argument for one thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't see a separate reason for a separate girls' thread. So many issues affect both boys and girls.

I could actually see making a separate thread for NCSL and ODSL just so it'd be free from all the chest-beating about the DA, ECNL, CCL and VPL, but I don't quite care enough to do it. Besides, Angry CCL Guy would probably turn up in that thread anyway.

LOL. Where is that CCL guy anyway? I wonder what he thinks about discussions among CCL leadership of dividing into Northern and Southern conferences. Will that be enough to silence the critics that hate, not the travel, but the travel to play some alleged really bad teams?

Are you part of that CCL leadership ? How do you know what BS they are coming up with now ?

We are in our first few weeks of travel soccer so please forgive my ignorance. We joined a CCL club (made the most sense because of our location), is there something wrong with CCL?