Housewife vs SAHM

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Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.

I'm the PP originally wuoted. I also volunteer occasionally at the school. But truly, out of the 35 hours a week in without a kid, the few hours I'm at the school don't change much. I'm not *with* my children. And every adult does the other things you listed, regardless of employment.



We all have only 24 hours in a day, whether we work for pay or not. If you are working in an office during the day, you have to do all of the domestic chores in your non-working hours. Yes, you still do most of the same things that a SAHM does but it's squeezed into fewer hours, which means weekends are spent on household chores or that DH and kids have to pull more weight. As a SAHM, my family gets to enjoy our relaxed weekends together without scrubbing toilets or schlepping to Costco. You do you, I'll do me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Working parents get it all done, too, but they do tend to outsource more of the domestic duties and I can't blame them.


Not this stuff, though. At least, I haven't found the service that will do the stuff I did last weekend, which included dumping out all of the socks and underwear from my kids' dressers and tossing everything with holes in it and all the socks without mates; pulling all the Tupperware out and trying to match lids and bases and stack it all neatly back in the cabinet; signing the kids up for fall classes at Parks and Rec; ordering a birthday present for my 1-year-old niece; setting up the automatic payment for extended day; depositing two paper dental reimbursement checks; going to the library to get eclipse glasses; etc etc. You know, running a household, having a family. Everyone does this stuff--you can't outsource it. Sure, you can pay to get the groceries delivered and the floors mopped and the lawn mowed. If you're really rich you can get a housekeeper to do some of the stuff like sort the Tupperware, I guess. But most people just find the time to go to Jiffy Lube and drop off the dry cleaning and no one is going to find your kid's glasses or math book for you, and no one is going to plan your vacation. That's just life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Wait- I thought dual working families had an equal split of household duties? We hear that all the time on here!

ITA with you that many women run the home AND work full time and no- I don't want to do that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Wait- I thought dual working families had an equal split of household duties? We hear that all the time on here!

ITA with you that many women run the home AND work full time and no- I don't want to do that.


Good lord, are you always this literal, or is that the time out of the workforce hindering your processing speed?

My husband and I both do some of the things on that list. The point is that working parents aren't exempt from grocery shopping, sorting old clothes, planning vacations, "searching for lost items" (SAHMs can find anything to justify what they do all day). We're just way more efficient at it all. And manage to contribute to the world and our bank accounts, as well. YMMV.
Anonymous
Then you rightly wouldn't call yourself the household manager.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Wait- I thought dual working families had an equal split of household duties? We hear that all the time on here!

ITA with you that many women run the home AND work full time and no- I don't want to do that.


Good lord, are you always this literal, or is that the time out of the workforce hindering your processing speed?

My husband and I both do some of the things on that list. The point is that working parents aren't exempt from grocery shopping, sorting old clothes, planning vacations, "searching for lost items" (SAHMs can find anything to justify what they do all day). We're just way more efficient at it all. And manage to contribute to the world and our bank accounts, as well. YMMV.



My bank account already contains more than I could spend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Wait- I thought dual working families had an equal split of household duties? We hear that all the time on here!

ITA with you that many women run the home AND work full time and no- I don't want to do that.


Good lord, are you always this literal, or is that the time out of the workforce hindering your processing speed?

My husband and I both do some of the things on that list. The point is that working parents aren't exempt from grocery shopping, sorting old clothes, planning vacations, "searching for lost items" (SAHMs can find anything to justify what they do all day). We're just way more efficient at it all. And manage to contribute to the world and our bank accounts, as well. YMMV.


Sounds like you're working too hard. Maybe you need a day off so you won't be so bitter, or jealous. Enjoy your contribution to the world. When I worked, I felt like I was irreplaceable and doing important work. Now, I realize the most important work is being there for my family.
Anonymous
I don't have a job where I get paid and I have some little ones. I don't care what people call me. Just do life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Working parents get it all done, too, but they do tend to outsource more of the domestic duties and I can't blame them.


Not this stuff, though. At least, I haven't found the service that will do the stuff I did last weekend, which included dumping out all of the socks and underwear from my kids' dressers and tossing everything with holes in it and all the socks without mates; pulling all the Tupperware out and trying to match lids and bases and stack it all neatly back in the cabinet; signing the kids up for fall classes at Parks and Rec; ordering a birthday present for my 1-year-old niece; setting up the automatic payment for extended day; depositing two paper dental reimbursement checks; going to the library to get eclipse glasses; etc etc. You know, running a household, having a family. Everyone does this stuff--you can't outsource it. Sure, you can pay to get the groceries delivered and the floors mopped and the lawn mowed. If you're really rich you can get a housekeeper to do some of the stuff like sort the Tupperware, I guess. But most people just find the time to go to Jiffy Lube and drop off the dry cleaning and no one is going to find your kid's glasses or math book for you, and no one is going to plan your vacation. That's just life.


The stuff you listed is really very, very basic. People sitting at work can take a long enough break to sign their kids up for a Partakes class. Same with the online ordering. It's like putting "shampooed hair, put on makeup, tied shoes" on your list of things that you do.

I'm a SAHM. I scrubbed the kitchen floor on my hands and knees yesterday. It's a big floor, it needed a more detailed cleaning than a mop could give it this time around. If I was working I would have very gladly outsourced that job. I also filled the car up with gas which is something that I really don't need outsourced.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Working parents get it all done, too, but they do tend to outsource more of the domestic duties and I can't blame them.


Not this stuff, though. At least, I haven't found the service that will do the stuff I did last weekend, which included dumping out all of the socks and underwear from my kids' dressers and tossing everything with holes in it and all the socks without mates; pulling all the Tupperware out and trying to match lids and bases and stack it all neatly back in the cabinet; signing the kids up for fall classes at Parks and Rec; ordering a birthday present for my 1-year-old niece; setting up the automatic payment for extended day; depositing two paper dental reimbursement checks; going to the library to get eclipse glasses; etc etc. You know, running a household, having a family. Everyone does this stuff--you can't outsource it. Sure, you can pay to get the groceries delivered and the floors mopped and the lawn mowed. If you're really rich you can get a housekeeper to do some of the stuff like sort the Tupperware, I guess. But most people just find the time to go to Jiffy Lube and drop off the dry cleaning and no one is going to find your kid's glasses or math book for you, and no one is going to plan your vacation. That's just life.


The stuff you listed is really very, very basic. People sitting at work can take a long enough break to sign their kids up for a Partakes class. Same with the online ordering. It's like putting "shampooed hair, put on makeup, tied shoes" on your list of things that you do.

I'm a SAHM. I scrubbed the kitchen floor on my hands and knees yesterday. It's a big floor, it needed a more detailed cleaning than a mop could give it this time around. If I was working I would have very gladly outsourced that job. I also filled the car up with gas which is something that I really don't need outsourced.


Yes, I am agreeing with you. I think it is silly to list all the basic stuff everyone does and say you are a "family manager," even if you outsource some stuff everyone has to run around and do errands and take care of things around the house. Just say you're a SAHM, don't try and fancy it up, it sounds ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Wait- I thought dual working families had an equal split of household duties? We hear that all the time on here!

ITA with you that many women run the home AND work full time and no- I don't want to do that.


Good lord, are you always this literal, or is that the time out of the workforce hindering your processing speed?

My husband and I both do some of the things on that list. The point is that working parents aren't exempt from grocery shopping, sorting old clothes, planning vacations, "searching for lost items" (SAHMs can find anything to justify what they do all day). We're just way more efficient at it all. And manage to contribute to the world and our bank accounts, as well. YMMV.


I get that it must make you feel better to believe that I'm stupid. I'm not sure why, but it's clear from your posts. It doesn't reflect poorly on me, but on you.

I was clearly replying to the quote ""aren't most women the family manager". If you and your spouse set it up differently why would you take offense to the reply?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Wait- I thought dual working families had an equal split of household duties? We hear that all the time on here!

ITA with you that many women run the home AND work full time and no- I don't want to do that.


Good lord, are you always this literal, or is that the time out of the workforce hindering your processing speed?

My husband and I both do some of the things on that list. The point is that working parents aren't exempt from grocery shopping, sorting old clothes, planning vacations, "searching for lost items" (SAHMs can find anything to justify what they do all day). We're just way more efficient at it all. And manage to contribute to the world and our bank accounts, as well. YMMV.


Sounds like you're working too hard. Maybe you need a day off so you won't be so bitter, or jealous. Enjoy your contribution to the world. When I worked, I felt like I was irreplaceable and doing important work. Now, I realize the most important work is being there for my family.


Jealous? I have a significant personal net worth, and work by choice. I work for personal fulfillment and because I enjoy using my intellect and yes, earning money. I'm also there for my family, as my kids are in school until 3:30, go to an hour of aftercare or sports, and I pick them up between 4:30 and 5. I go to every school event, field trip, etc - have never missed one because of work. So how am I not there for my kids?

If being called "family manager" because you sort socks and "find lost items" makes you feel useful, go for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Wait- I thought dual working families had an equal split of household duties? We hear that all the time on here!

ITA with you that many women run the home AND work full time and no- I don't want to do that.


Good lord, are you always this literal, or is that the time out of the workforce hindering your processing speed?

My husband and I both do some of the things on that list. The point is that working parents aren't exempt from grocery shopping, sorting old clothes, planning vacations, "searching for lost items" (SAHMs can find anything to justify what they do all day). We're just way more efficient at it all. And manage to contribute to the world and our bank accounts, as well. YMMV.


I get that it must make you feel better to believe that I'm stupid. I'm not sure why, but it's clear from your posts. It doesn't reflect poorly on me, but on you.

I was clearly replying to the quote ""aren't most women the family manager". If you and your spouse set it up differently why would you take offense to the reply?


You're talking to different people. Sigh.
Anonymous
I'm talking to the person that I quoted. It's not my fault if they can't read a quote for context and take statmements that don't apply to them as insults.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One and the same.

I agree, but at the same time, I'm a SAHM of school-aged children. It's summer so I am totally feeling the SAHM vibe - because it is all day, every day - but during the school year, I'm a housewife. Full stop.

Once the kids are on that bus at 8:45, it's me until I get them at 4pm. I'm doing stuff for the HOUSE, or stuff for me (the WIFE). There really is no "mom" in the equation for about 7 hours, unless of course someone is sick or school is out.


Agreed SAHM of school age kids is a housewife.


I respectfully disagree. After my kids go off to school, I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit my kids directly, although they are not with me. I may be volunteering in their school, grocery shopping, getting rid of the outgrown clothes and toys in their closets, mowing the lawn, taking the car to the garage for an oil change, picking up dry cleaning, taking the grandparents to doctor appointments, fixing random broken things around the house or searching for lost items, picking up books that have been reserved at the library, planning weekend outings/play dates or family vacations, taking pets to the vet, gardening ...
Both stay at home mom and housewife are misnomers. I'm hardly ever home. We need new terminology. Maybe "family manager"?


But aren't most women the family manager? I work full time and do everything on your list except volunteer. I do a lot during my lunch hour.


Yeah I don't get this either. PP, all working parents do everything on your list. AND work.


Working parents get it all done, too, but they do tend to outsource more of the domestic duties and I can't blame them.


Not this stuff, though. At least, I haven't found the service that will do the stuff I did last weekend, which included dumping out all of the socks and underwear from my kids' dressers and tossing everything with holes in it and all the socks without mates; pulling all the Tupperware out and trying to match lids and bases and stack it all neatly back in the cabinet; signing the kids up for fall classes at Parks and Rec; ordering a birthday present for my 1-year-old niece; setting up the automatic payment for extended day; depositing two paper dental reimbursement checks; going to the library to get eclipse glasses; etc etc. You know, running a household, having a family. Everyone does this stuff--you can't outsource it. Sure, you can pay to get the groceries delivered and the floors mopped and the lawn mowed. If you're really rich you can get a housekeeper to do some of the stuff like sort the Tupperware, I guess. But most people just find the time to go to Jiffy Lube and drop off the dry cleaning and no one is going to find your kid's glasses or math book for you, and no one is going to plan your vacation. That's just life.


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