Mundo Verde v. LAMB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When LAMB last expanded, they exceeded their DCI seat allocation. They didn’t share this publicly.

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This is my understanding as well.

Can someone confirm/deny this please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When LAMB last expanded, they exceeded their DCI seat allocation. They didn’t share this publicly.

Ask.

This is my understanding as well.

Can someone confirm/deny this please?

You'd have to ask a LAMB board member, since Diane and Cristina are gone. I don't think they are on DCUM.

Go back and look at the minutes from the DCPCSB hearing and vote when the ceiling was raised to 600. Pretty sure it was discussed then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When LAMB last expanded, they exceeded their DCI seat allocation. They didn’t share this publicly.

Ask.

This is my understanding as well.

Can someone confirm/deny this please?

You'd have to ask a LAMB board member, since Diane and Cristina are gone. I don't think they are on DCUM.

Go back and look at the minutes from the DCPCSB hearing and vote when the ceiling was raised to 600. Pretty sure it was discussed then.

Best of luck getting answers. Lamb parents are expected to be silent sheep and not worry about things like lawsuits, the location of the school, or have any opinions at all. Have you seen the waitlist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When LAMB last expanded, they exceeded their DCI seat allocation. They didn’t share this publicly.

Ask.

This is my understanding as well.

We are taking about maybe 3 students who will miss out. When you consider lambs attrition and the fact that they don’t replenish kids, and sibling preference to dci, it’s essentially guaranteed.

Also- lamb has 470 kids now. 600 and change kids is the max they can expand. For dci not to be guaranteed the school will have to expand beyond that.

After 2025 mundo kids need to lottery for feeder preference and I think get something like a 30% chance.

No. I believe that the expansion to 600 already puts LAMB beyond the cap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When LAMB last expanded, they exceeded their DCI seat allocation. They didn’t share this publicly.

Ask.

This is my understanding as well.

We are taking about maybe 3 students who will miss out. When you consider lambs attrition and the fact that they don’t replenish kids, and sibling preference to dci, it’s essentially guaranteed.

Also- lamb has 470 kids now. 600 and change kids is the max they can expand. For dci not to be guaranteed the school will have to expand beyond that.

After 2025 mundo kids need to lottery for feeder preference and I think get something like a 30% chance.

No. I believe that the expansion to 600 already puts LAMB beyond the cap.

When DCI was founded, LAMB had an enrollment ceiling of 425-450.

The question was whether back then, they negotiated 50 seats per grade at DCI (maximum you'd need with an enrollment of ~450) or 75 seats per grade (maximum they need when they grow to 600).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When LAMB last expanded, they exceeded their DCI seat allocation. They didn’t share this publicly.

Ask.

This is my understanding as well.

We are taking about maybe 3 students who will miss out. When you consider lambs attrition and the fact that they don’t replenish kids, and sibling preference to dci, it’s essentially guaranteed.

Also- lamb has 470 kids now. 600 and change kids is the max they can expand. For dci not to be guaranteed the school will have to expand beyond that.

After 2025 mundo kids need to lottery for feeder preference and I think get something like a 30% chance.

No. I believe that the expansion to 600 already puts LAMB beyond the cap.

And right now lamb has around 470. So there is a guarantee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When LAMB last expanded, they exceeded their DCI seat allocation. They didn’t share this publicly.

Ask.

This is my understanding as well.

We are taking about maybe 3 students who will miss out. When you consider lambs attrition and the fact that they don’t replenish kids, and sibling preference to dci, it’s essentially guaranteed.

Also- lamb has 470 kids now. 600 and change kids is the max they can expand. For dci not to be guaranteed the school will have to expand beyond that.

After 2025 mundo kids need to lottery for feeder preference and I think get something like a 30% chance.

No. I believe that the expansion to 600 already puts LAMB beyond the cap.

And right now lamb has around 470. So there is a guarantee.

It seems like you might be bad at math ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When LAMB last expanded, they exceeded their DCI seat allocation. They didn’t share this publicly.

Ask.

This is my understanding as well.

We are taking about maybe 3 students who will miss out. When you consider lambs attrition and the fact that they don’t replenish kids, and sibling preference to dci, it’s essentially guaranteed.

Also- lamb has 470 kids now. 600 and change kids is the max they can expand. For dci not to be guaranteed the school will have to expand beyond that.

After 2025 mundo kids need to lottery for feeder preference and I think get something like a 30% chance.

No. I believe that the expansion to 600 already puts LAMB beyond the cap.

And right now lamb has around 470. So there is a guarantee.

That isn't how it works. LAMB and DCI have a legal agreement that says LAMB can send up to X number of students per year to DCI. So what matters is the size of each grade level cohort, not the total Pk3-5th enrollment.

For 2017-18 LAMB has

83 students in PK3
79 for Pk4
76 for K
45 for 1st
55 for 2nd
48 for 3rd
43 for 4th
33 in 4th

So the question is whether the youngest, largest classes really have reserved slots at DCI. Given the way Diane Cottman operated, I would be asking to see the DCI-LAMB contract in writing if I were a LAMB parent.

[Anonymous]

^^ should say 33 in 5th (not 4th)

[Anonymous]

And given the way LAMB Board Operates, they won’t respond to your email and will just badmouth you to everyone.

[Anonymous]

Asking to see the Feeder-DCI contract is a good idea for any of the DCI feeder schools. Each school has an allocation for admission preference, if the number of kids coming from the feeder exceeds the preference, there will be a lottery among the kids from that feeder. Currently, the terminal classes at all of the feeders are small enough that there will not be a lottery. But, once Mundo and Stokes expand that could change.

The policies on back-filling grades will also be relevant. If the school does not back fill (i.e. Lamb) attrition is likely to reduce the need for a lottery. If the school does back-fill seats then attrition might not help.

Other seat filling issues are s tied up with the DCI contract as well. For example, if older kids are admitted to DCI to fill LAMB seats, LAMB will not give sibling preference to younger kids for admission to LAMB (this works both ways, getting your PK4 admitted to lamb does not create preference for your 9th grader to DCI). But, Mundo Verde has the opposite rule. if a 10 grader is admitted to DCI to an Mundo seat the younger sib would get a preference at Mundo. And, having a younger kid admitted to Mundo gives you DCI preference for the older child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Asking to see the Feeder-DCI contract is a good idea for any of the DCI feeder schools. Each school has an allocation for admission preference, if the number of kids coming from the feeder exceeds the preference, there will be a lottery among the kids from that feeder. Currently, the terminal classes at all of the feeders are small enough that there will not be a lottery. But, once Mundo and Stokes expand that could change.

The policies on back-filling grades will also be relevant. If the school does not back fill (i.e. Lamb) attrition is likely to reduce the need for a lottery. If the school does back-fill seats then attrition might not help.

Other seat filling issues are s tied up with the DCI contract as well. For example, if older kids are admitted to DCI to fill LAMB seats, LAMB will not give sibling preference to younger kids for admission to LAMB (this works both ways, getting your PK4 admitted to lamb does not create preference for your 9th grader to DCI). But, Mundo Verde has the opposite rule. if a 10 grader is admitted to DCI to an Mundo seat the younger sib would get a preference at Mundo. And, having a younger kid admitted to Mundo gives you DCI preference for the older child.

Is this a disincentive to backfill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Asking to see the Feeder-DCI contract is a good idea for any of the DCI feeder schools. Each school has an allocation for admission preference, if the number of kids coming from the feeder exceeds the preference, there will be a lottery among the kids from that feeder. Currently, the terminal classes at all of the feeders are small enough that there will not be a lottery. But, once Mundo and Stokes expand that could change.

The policies on back-filling grades will also be relevant. If the school does not back fill (i.e. Lamb) attrition is likely to reduce the need for a lottery. If the school does back-fill seats then attrition might not help.

Other seat filling issues are s tied up with the DCI contract as well. For example, if older kids are admitted to DCI to fill LAMB seats, LAMB will not give sibling preference to younger kids for admission to LAMB (this works both ways, getting your PK4 admitted to lamb does not create preference for your 9th grader to DCI). But, Mundo Verde has the opposite rule. if a 10 grader is admitted to DCI to an Mundo seat the younger sib would get a preference at Mundo. And, having a younger kid admitted to Mundo gives you DCI preference for the older child.

Is this a disincentive to backfill?

I truly don't think the administrators at the feeder schools care or think about DCI very much. They know it's a benefit to their families and helps them retain students through their upper grades, but they are focused on running their own schools, making their own enrollment targets and budgets.

[Anonymous]

Agreed. But, DCI is actually also an extension of the charters of the feeders. So they have to care a little bit. But, feeder school admin is not going to care about creating a situation where their 5th graders have to lotto in to DCI 6th, unless it starts to hurt their recruitment at PK - which is won't. So parents just need to make sure they understand so they are not surprised in 5th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP.

I looked at the DC Charter School Reports and while LAMB is better they seem very similar. Both Tier 1. This is what I looked at:
http://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-quality-reports-pmf

You should also read the qualitative site review reports. LAMB last was reviewed in 2014; Mundo Verde in 2015. http://www.dcpcsb.org/report/qualitative-school-reviews

Does anyone know what LAMB has no updated qualitative review? Trying to decide between it and another HRCS and would be nice to have some more data/information.