Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This just confirms the impression I had that NoVa is racist. When moving here, I am so glad we ended up in MD, after I did look at NoVa too. And yet I am getting flayed on real estate forum for saying I decided on MD because some people in Va were spouting racist crap to my face. I know people will say that NoVa is bigger than FCPS, but Fairfax is still the biggest chunk of NoVa.


Enjoy adult illegals raping high school students


It was consensual, or at least unprovable.


Oh, have the charges been dropped? I did not hear that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This just confirms the impression I had that NoVa is racist. When moving here, I am so glad we ended up in MD, after I did look at NoVa too. And yet I am getting flayed on real estate forum for saying I decided on MD because some people in Va were spouting racist crap to my face. I know people will say that NoVa is bigger than FCPS, but Fairfax is still the biggest chunk of NoVa.


That's quite a blanket statement.

And it's a true statement.
We don't want to admit it but we all know it's true.


Agree. I'm glad OP started this thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This just confirms the impression I had that NoVa is racist. When moving here, I am so glad we ended up in MD, after I did look at NoVa too. And yet I am getting flayed on real estate forum for saying I decided on MD because some people in Va were spouting racist crap to my face. I know people will say that NoVa is bigger than FCPS, but Fairfax is still the biggest chunk of NoVa.


That's quite a blanket statement.

And it's a true statement.
We don't want to admit it but we all know it's true.


Agree. I'm glad OP started this thread.


Alright. WTF. Everyone in NoVa is racist. So why the F*** do we bother to have these conversations?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What I noticed at a Ffx ES is the only AA staff members are a bit aggressive, kind of instilling fear in young kids. Not sure if they are instructed to do so, but I do know parents noticed the same. I have no problem at all with AAs who are kind, well educated and honest.


Serious question. Not trying to pick, I'm seeking clarification.

Are you saying that the "well educated" AAs are kinder and more honest than the 'less educated' AAs?

What I'm asking is do you see a (personality) difference in AA teachers based on their educational backgrounds?

And what say you about the mean, strict white teachers? We know they exist. We've all had some. Lol
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What I noticed at a Ffx ES is the only AA staff members are a bit aggressive, kind of instilling fear in young kids. Not sure if they are instructed to do so, but I do know parents noticed the same. I have no problem at all with AAs who are kind, well educated and honest.


Wow, what do do you other pps? So you have a problem with AAs who are not kind, not well educated, and how do you go about establishing honesty? Some of the rudest people I know are brutally honest? Are we having blatantly racist generalizing which is reflected in how she/he views African Americans? "The other parents noticed the same? Must be wonderful working environment in your kid's school for those AA staff members. Funny you confirmed the research findings and didn't say teachers. Or is this another putzy, incapable of anybody "directing" their child properly, parents that is the cause of insane rudeness kids in this area exhibit in every single situation. You know, the one where kids come crying to mommy or daddy because teacher or school staff told them off so rudely, while forgetting to mention that they were littering, trowing things at people at school and being disrespectful in every imaginable and unimaginable way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I noticed at a Ffx ES is the only AA staff members are a bit aggressive, kind of instilling fear in young kids. Not sure if they are instructed to do so, but I do know parents noticed the same. I have no problem at all with AAs who are kind, well educated and honest.


Wow, what do do you other pps? So you have a problem with AAs who are not kind, not well educated, and how do you go about establishing honesty? Some of the rudest people I know are brutally honest? Are we having blatantly racist generalizing which is reflected in how she/he views African Americans? "The other parents noticed the same? Must be wonderful working environment in your kid's school for those AA staff members. Funny you confirmed the research findings and didn't say teachers. Or is this another putzy, incapable of anybody "directing" their child properly, parents that is the cause of insane rudeness kids in this area exhibit in every single situation. You know, the one where kids come crying to mommy or daddy because teacher or school staff told them off so rudely, while forgetting to mention that they were littering, trowing things at people at school and being disrespectful in every imaginable and unimaginable way.


I meant what do other pps think about this post?
Anonymous
Can't speak to all of Nova as I am relatively new to this neighborhood, but where I am (falls church) there are very few AAs. Tons of Hispanics, Asians, and Arabs.
Anonymous
Not surprised. At our school, the principal only hires thin young blondes who dress and smile like a stereotypical teacher and who spend more time on Pinterest than on lesson plans. Especially ones who have no classroom management skills
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I noticed at a Ffx ES is the only AA staff members are a bit aggressive, kind of instilling fear in young kids. Not sure if they are instructed to do so, but I do know parents noticed the same. I have no problem at all with AAs who are kind, well educated and honest.


Wow, what do do you other pps? So you have a problem with AAs who are not kind, not well educated, and how do you go about establishing honesty? Some of the rudest people I know are brutally honest? Are we having blatantly racist generalizing which is reflected in how she/he views African Americans? "The other parents noticed the same? Must be wonderful working environment in your kid's school for those AA staff members. Funny you confirmed the research findings and didn't say teachers. Or is this another putzy, incapable of anybody "directing" their child properly, parents that is the cause of insane rudeness kids in this area exhibit in every single situation. You know, the one where kids come crying to mommy or daddy because teacher or school staff told them off so rudely, while forgetting to mention that they were littering, trowing things at people at school and being disrespectful in every imaginable and unimaginable way.


I meant what do other pps think about this post?


Not a PP but yikes

"I have no problem" = common language for racists to justify racism, like a CLICHE of a "nice" southern racist. "I have no problem with their kind so long as they don't go stirrin' up trouble, what with the marches and the boycotts and all the civil rights talk!" If you hear yourself saying things like "I have no problem with...", do some soul searching, ask where it came from, and how you can unlearn it.

Also what you're saying is I don't have a problem with black people who keep me comfortable, who either live up to my standard of black perfection or know their place, who don't remind me of the history of inequality and racism in the country.

"I do know other parents noticed..." So you engaged in racist conversations with other parents. Because you didn't say you discussed one person, e.g. "I'm concerned about the way I heard Ms. Abbott speak to a child," but multiple people viewed as a group, and categorized by race, not by any other common factor. Not "I noticed the teachers who are over 50..." or "I noticed the teachers who wear tennis shoes..." or "I noticed the kindergarten paraprofessionals..."

If a specific employee is mistreating children, like actually being aggressive and instilling fear, speak up, for God's sake. Speak up, even if the employee was "instructed" to do so by a white person. (If you found out the employee WAS "instructed" by a white supervisor to talk to children in a certain way, would that make it ok?) And speak up or inquire about INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIORS, not anyone's character or category. Don't look to connect dots and invent patterns to bolster existing stereotypes. Don't use the mistreatment of children to make you feel better about being racist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Black teacher applicants face
discrimination

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/black-teacher-applicants-face-discrimination-in-a-wealthy-school-district-study-finds/2017/05/04/ea192b50-2a90-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.53e91da1fec2&wpisrc=nl_buzz&wpmm=1


DS attend a FCPS graduated in 2012. Beside Gym class he didn't have an AA teacher till Freshman year in High School. Why is FCPS doing this?


You know what? Now that I think of it, there is only one AA teacher at my children's school. ONE! My daughter had her in first grade and she a fantastic (and very well liked) teacher.
Anonymous
You know what? Now that I think of it, there is only one AA teacher at my children's school. ONE! My daughter had her in first grade and she a fantastic (and very well liked) teacher.



Are you sure? How large is the staff? Have you looked at the photos?

I taught school for a number of years. If someone asked me how many Black students I had, I would have to look at them to remember. Of course, if I had only one or two, I would probably have been able to say so. Otherwise, I just didn't look at them that way. If I had to fill out forms for demographics, I would have to go down the list one by one in order to count. Except for some time in a Title I school, I always had well-mixed classes. I doubt I taught for one year where all races were not represented--maybe not so many from Middle East or India in those days.
Anonymous
The school where I'm currently working hires mainly young, white, east coast types (females) who are the most miserable types out there.
Anonymous
There's a certain amount of fear among AA admins that if they hire a proportionate number of AA teachers, they will be seen as biased. That might account for the 9% of teachers but 16% of admins.

I'd be curious to see if they collected numbers on hires by AA admins vs. non-AA.
Anonymous
I grew up in Fairfax county the one AA teacher I had tried to teach the social studies class Jesus was black
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Fairfax county the one AA teacher I had tried to teach the social studies class Jesus was black


As opposed to the truth, that he was Jewish? I wonder how that would fly with Southern Baptists?
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