Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:funny how black students do better in school with a black teacher, but the Asians excel with teachers of any race. Wonder why that is?

Note that the article says FCPS is a powerhouse nationally - doing something right methinks.

Blacks are inferior
Just say what you think don't dance around it with playful quips

That is absolutely NOT what I think. Many factors contribute to the achievement gap. I was just wondering what the Asians are doing right. Why doesn't this problem affect them?

Asian families value education and put an enormous amount of pressure on their kids to get good grades. Black people in the US tend do the opposite. But I'm sure a lot of people on here will blame the principal or whatever. That is why bussing kids to the rich kids schools tends not to work out so well.

I strongly disagree.

You do realize black American women are the most educated group in America, yes?

That doesn’t happen if, as a race, you don’t value education.

This is just one reason this type of diversity in our teacher workforce is important. Kids of all races need to know that there ARE black families that value education. Lots of them. Otherwise, races continue to accept the negative narrative about blacks that isn’t true.

No, they are not the most educated by a long shot.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/familyinequality.wordpress.com/2016/06/07/no-black-women-are-not-the-most-educated-group-in-the-us/amp/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys know that 80% of black Americans are middle class and higher socioeconomically?

Don’t take my word for it. Check out the US Census records.

Still we have this lazy narrative of black Americans not valuing education.

We’ve gotta do better as a country. Until we do change the narrative from stereotypes to reality, having black teachers in front of our kids is so important.

While you’re at it, check out the stats for single mothers. Compare the percentage of white ones to blacks. A lot has changed.

What do you consider middle class?

I see 65% of black households earning less than 50k.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:funny how black students do better in school with a black teacher, but the Asians excel with teachers of any race. Wonder why that is?

Note that the article says FCPS is a powerhouse nationally - doing something right methinks.

Blacks are inferior
Just say what you think don't dance around it with playful quips

That is absolutely NOT what I think. Many factors contribute to the achievement gap. I was just wondering what the Asians are doing right. Why doesn't this problem affect them?

Asian families value education and put an enormous amount of pressure on their kids to get good grades. Black people in the US tend do the opposite. But I'm sure a lot of people on here will blame the principal or whatever. That is why bussing kids to the rich kids schools tends not to work out so well.

I strongly disagree.

You do realize black American women are the most educated group in America, yes?

That doesn’t happen if, as a race, you don’t value education.

This is just one reason this type of diversity in our teacher workforce is important. Kids of all races need to know that there ARE black families that value education. Lots of them. Otherwise, races continue to accept the negative narrative about blacks that isn’t true.

No they're not. I think you are likely getting your information from sites like "The Root," which obviously has an anti-white agenda. It is true that black women blow away black men when it comes to higher education. Like, it's not even close. It's actually laughable that you believe that black Americans beat out Asians in the academic world. And it's even more pathetic that only one other person is calling you out. But I guess there is a lot of self loathing around here.

I’ve never even heard of “The Root”. Initially I thought you were accusing me of getting my information from the movie Roots when I specifically told you my info came from THE UNITED STATES CENSUS. Check those facts.

Asians are the most educated IMMIGRANT group but as an immigrant group, I’d assume they probably don’t outnumber black Americans.

Funny you skipped right over Whites and went straight to a comparison between black women and Asians of all people. Speaking of self-loathing.

Your underpants are really in a bunch over the fact that black Americans may not be the education-loathing, degenerate underclass you desperately need them to be in order to feel superior.

Check out the percentage of black Americans who are middle class and higher socioeconomically while you’re at it.

You’re Exhibit A about why countries like Fairfax NEEDS teachers of color.

You should just stop. You are embarrassing yourself. Asians beat out blacks in education. This is just a fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys know that 80% of black Americans are middle class and higher socioeconomically?

Don’t take my word for it. Check out the US Census records.

Still we have this lazy narrative of black Americans not valuing education.

We’ve gotta do better as a country. Until we do change the narrative from stereotypes to reality, having black teachers in front of our kids is so important.

While you’re at it, check out the stats for single mothers. Compare the percentage of white ones to blacks. A lot has changed.

What do you consider middle class?

I see 65% of black households earning less than 50k.

This person has to be trolling us. Let's just ignore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:funny how black students do better in school with a black teacher, but the Asians excel with teachers of any race. Wonder why that is?

Note that the article says FCPS is a powerhouse nationally - doing something right methinks.

Blacks are inferior
Just say what you think don't dance around it with playful quips

That is absolutely NOT what I think. Many factors contribute to the achievement gap. I was just wondering what the Asians are doing right. Why doesn't this problem affect them?

Asian families value education and put an enormous amount of pressure on their kids to get good grades. Black people in the US tend do the opposite. But I'm sure a lot of people on here will blame the principal or whatever. That is why bussing kids to the rich kids schools tends not to work out so well.

I strongly disagree.

You do realize black American women are the most educated group in America, yes?

That doesn’t happen if, as a race, you don’t value education.

This is just one reason this type of diversity in our teacher workforce is important. Kids of all races need to know that there ARE black families that value education. Lots of them. Otherwise, races continue to accept the negative narrative about blacks that isn’t true.

No they're not. I think you are likely getting your information from sites like "The Root," which obviously has an anti-white agenda. It is true that black women blow away black men when it comes to higher education. Like, it's not even close. It's actually laughable that you believe that black Americans beat out Asians in the academic world. And it's even more pathetic that only one other person is calling you out. But I guess there is a lot of self loathing around here.

I’ve never even heard of “The Root”. Initially I thought you were accusing me of getting my information from the movie Roots when I specifically told you my info came from THE UNITED STATES CENSUS. Check those facts.

Asians are the most educated IMMIGRANT group but as an immigrant group, I’d assume they probably don’t outnumber black Americans.

Funny you skipped right over Whites and went straight to a comparison between black women and Asians of all people. Speaking of self-loathing.

Your underpants are really in a bunch over the fact that black Americans may not be the education-loathing, degenerate underclass you desperately need them to be in order to feel superior.

Check out the percentage of black Americans who are middle class and higher socioeconomically while you’re at it.

You’re Exhibit A about why countries like Fairfax NEEDS teachers of color.

You should just stop. You are embarrassing yourself. Asians beat out blacks in education. This is just a fact.

+1
I think the pp might have some type of mental disorder and is an AA studies student. She could easily be triggered, so lets give her a break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very interesting article.

Why does this happen? Could be any #of different reasons depending on who's interviewing:

1. Some school leaders may be intimidated by AAs with advanced credentials and teaching experience.

2. Some may feel blacks are not representative of the student population, so their absence is not an issue. (If my school is 90% white I may not be too pressed to have minority representation.) However, smart people know that we ALL benefit from being in diverse settings. White kids benefit from being exposed to educated AAs--helps to combat stereotypes and making the AAs they see on the news their only exposure to blacks.

We also tend to forget about the 2 or 3 black kids in the school who feel out of place and would benefit from a friendly black adult face.

3. A fear/feeling that black applicants may not be a good "fit". In other words, because of a lack of exposure to AAs (which they perpetuate with this biased hiring practice), they assume that the black teacher may be loud, late, obnoxious, unprofessional, prone to fighting--and every other negative stereotype of black people they see on TV.

4. Just plain ol' racism and fear of the colureds takin' o'va

What crap. Could it be possible that there are simply no black teachers interested? What would you have FCPS do? Kidnap smart blacks off the street and anoint them as teachers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very interesting article.

Why does this happen? Could be any #of different reasons depending on who's interviewing:

1. Some school leaders may be intimidated by AAs with advanced credentials and teaching experience.

2. Some may feel blacks are not representative of the student population, so their absence is not an issue. (If my school is 90% white I may not be too pressed to have minority representation.) However, smart people know that we ALL benefit from being in diverse settings. White kids benefit from being exposed to educated AAs--helps to combat stereotypes and making the AAs they see on the news their only exposure to blacks.

We also tend to forget about the 2 or 3 black kids in the school who feel out of place and would benefit from a friendly black adult face.

3. A fear/feeling that black applicants may not be a good "fit". In other words, because of a lack of exposure to AAs (which they perpetuate with this biased hiring practice), they assume that the black teacher may be loud, late, obnoxious, unprofessional, prone to fighting--and every other negative stereotype of black people they see on TV.

4. Just plain ol' racism and fear of the colureds takin' o'va

What crap. Could it be possible that there are simply no black teachers interested? What would you have FCPS do? Kidnap smart blacks off the street and anoint them as teachers?

I think it was Moon that pointed out to the school board when they were saying they want the teaching and other staff to reflect the school population, that the school board does not have any power to influence the races/ethnicities of those going to school to major in education.

I cackled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Black teacher applicants face
discrimination

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/black-teacher-applicants-face-discrimination-in-a-wealthy-school-district-study-finds/2017/05/04/ea192b50-2a90-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.53e91da1fec2&wpisrc=nl_buzz&wpmm=1


DS attend a FCPS graduated in 2012. Beside Gym class he didn't have an AA teacher till Freshman year in High School. Why is FCPS doing this?

I read this article a while ago but stumbled upon this on the Virginia Procurement website. FCPS has an RFP= request for proposal for an entity to procure 50 international, non-USA citizens for teaching jobs. The entity would provide money for transportation, housing etc until the FCPS paychecks kick in.

Considering the thread title AA US citizen teachers are my preference. FCPS is a school division in the USA. https://m.vendor.epro.cgipdc.com/Vendor/public/VBODetails.jsp?PageTitle=SO%20Details&DOC_CD=RFP&Details_Page=VBOSODetails.jsp&DEPT_CD=LAA4&BID_INTRNL_NO=155118&BID_NO=2000002971&BID_VERS_NO=2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Black teacher applicants face
discrimination

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/black-teacher-applicants-face-discrimination-in-a-wealthy-school-district-study-finds/2017/05/04/ea192b50-2a90-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.53e91da1fec2&wpisrc=nl_buzz&wpmm=1


DS attend a FCPS graduated in 2012. Beside Gym class he didn't have an AA teacher till Freshman year in High School. Why is FCPS doing this?

I read this article a while ago but stumbled upon this on the Virginia Procurement website. FCPS has an RFP= request for proposal for an entity to procure 50 international, non-USA citizens for teaching jobs. The entity would provide money for transportation, housing etc until the FCPS paychecks kick in.

Considering the thread title AA US citizen teachers are my preference. FCPS is a school division in the USA. https://m.vendor.epro.cgipdc.com/Vendor/public/VBODetails.jsp?PageTitle=SO%20Details&DOC_CD=RFP&Details_Page=VBOSODetails.jsp&DEPT_CD=LAA4&BID_INTRNL_NO=155118&BID_NO=2000002971&BID_VERS_NO=2

That's interesting. I've heard of school district with severe shortages doing this. Does FCPS have that severe of a shortage? I don't mind teachers from overseas just as long as their preparation is as good or better than the US's.

[Anonymous]

So has FCPS made progress with minority hiring since this report came out in 2017? It does seem like a diverse work force should be a priority in a minority-majority school district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:funny how black students do better in school with a black teacher, but the Asians excel with teachers of any race. Wonder why that is?

Note that the article says FCPS is a powerhouse nationally - doing something right methinks.

Blacks are inferior
Just say what you think don't dance around it with playful quips

That is absolutely NOT what I think. Many factors contribute to the achievement gap. I was just wondering what the Asians are doing right. Why doesn't this problem affect them?

Asian families value education and put an enormous amount of pressure on their kids to get good grades. Black people in the US tend do the opposite. But I'm sure a lot of people on here will blame the principal or whatever. That is why bussing kids to the rich kids schools tends not to work out so well.

I strongly disagree.

You do realize black American women are the most educated group in America, yes?

That doesn’t happen if, as a race, you don’t value education.

This is just one reason this type of diversity in our teacher workforce is important. Kids of all races need to know that there ARE black families that value education. Lots of them. Otherwise, races continue to accept the negative narrative about blacks that isn’t true.

No they're not. I think you are likely getting your information from sites like "The Root," which obviously has an anti-white agenda. It is true that black women blow away black men when it comes to higher education. Like, it's not even close. It's actually laughable that you believe that black Americans beat out Asians in the academic world. And it's even more pathetic that only one other person is calling you out. But I guess there is a lot of self loathing around here.

I’ve never even heard of “The Root”. Initially I thought you were accusing me of getting my information from the movie Roots when I specifically told you my info came from THE UNITED STATES CENSUS. Check those facts.

Asians are the most educated IMMIGRANT group but as an immigrant group, I’d assume they probably don’t outnumber black Americans.

Funny you skipped right over Whites and went straight to a comparison between black women and Asians of all people. Speaking of self-loathing.

Your underpants are really in a bunch over the fact that black Americans may not be the education-loathing, degenerate underclass you desperately need them to be in order to feel superior.

Check out the percentage of black Americans who are middle class and higher socioeconomically while you’re at it.

You’re Exhibit A about why countries like Fairfax NEEDS teachers of color.

You should just stop. You are embarrassing yourself. Asians beat out blacks in education. This is just a fact.

+1
I think the pp might have some type of mental disorder and is an AA studies student. She could easily be triggered, so lets give her a break.

+10

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So has FCPS made progress with minority hiring since this report came out in 2017? It does seem like a diverse work force should be a priority in a minority-majority school district.

No, providing the best education for our kids should be the priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So has FCPS made progress with minority hiring since this report came out in 2017? It does seem like a diverse work force should be a priority in a minority-majority school district.

No, providing the best education for our kids should be the priority.

According to one of their work sessions, the pool just isn't there.

An effort should be made to recruit applicants from many places and have a fair process.

[Anonymous]

Black everything experiences discrimination in FCPS. If you complain, they will get black FCPS employee’s to swear the discrimination doesn’t exist and to enforce the discrimination. I guess the the only blacks who they allow to advance in FCPS are the sellouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Black everything experiences discrimination in FCPS. If you complain, they will get black FCPS employee’s to swear the discrimination doesn’t exist and to enforce the discrimination. I guess the the only blacks who they allow to advance in FCPS are the sellouts.

The Deputy Superintendent, Chief Operating Officer, and Assistant Superintendents for Regions 1 & 3 are only in those positions because they were “allowed” to fill them? Is that what you are saying?