APS: New petition in support of 4th Comprehensive High School option / Kenmore

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the options that would best serve Arlington aren't being offered. One option would be to open Kenmore as a 1300 seat choice school to start-- and put a choice program there that people actually want, not this "world languages" stuff-- and then turn it into a 2200 seat comprehensive high school in the future once a new middle school is built at VHC or somewhere else. Second option is to build out the Career Center into a real 2200 seat comprehensive science and technology high school like TJHS in Fairfax-- complete with its own extracurriculars so the kids don't have to return to WL, WF, and YT. It would not have space for a football team and a swim team, but we all know that enough Arlington parents would chomp at the bit to send their kids to a real science high school so I don't think there would be as much complaining about the trade-off if it came with state of the art labs and AP science classes. APS says they love choice schools, but those three options that were presented only included a choice school if you were fine with IB/World Languages at WL.

Agree completely.

[Anonymous]

SALA - If a Northie shows up with soup and shirts, please know that she is from 22213 and is using you for her own purposes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SALA - If a Northie shows up with soup and shirts, please know that she is from 22213 and is using you for her own purposes.

Ok...
But what kind of soup are talking here?
SALA can be bought.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile everyone in 22205 is going to get screwed by Lander's decision to build the 1300 high school seats at WL-- because guess what Yorktown neighborhoods are going to be the first to get redistricted to WL when it grows to 4000 students? Westover and East Falls Church ones. The SALA moms on here are annoying, but they are totally correct that the Northside is going to implode into a big shitshow over who gets kicked out of Yorktown and moved to the WL ant farm in 2022. If you need a reason to vote AGAINST Lander, that should be your #1 reason.

What option doesn't screw the people of 22205?

The 1,300 seat addition will most likely mean enlarging the WL boundaries. Won't they just take back the boundaries that are being shifted now? I don't think that impacted 22205 b/c the one PU (150X) that was under consideration stayed at WL. The Westover Apts. provide much of the diversity at Yorktown, so I don't know that the board will mess with that. APS claims the 1,300 seats will be to expand the IB program, but I don't buy it.

The Kenmore option comes with unknown boundaries. People on here like to stir the pot making maps to get people riled op. I could see the Kenmore HS boundaries going N of 50 (obviously), but maybe I don't know if it will even go much past Wilson b/c of density. The boundaries are going to be smaller b/c it's a smaller school. However, the map folks like to suck up all of Westover and put it at Kenmore. So, how does that not screw Westover? A realtor friend told me that homes zoned for Yortown sell higher than those for WL. I don't have data, but I do trust her as this is her profession. Won't rezoning from Yorktown to Kenmore affect property values, as well.

What's left? Should 22205 be championing the Career Center option?

I don't think that's correct. The Westover Apartments don't provide diversity at Yorktown, or at any school, because there are very few young children living in those mainly one bedroom apartments. The racial/economic diversity at Yorktown comes almost entirely from the Rosslyn-Courthouse area and the historically black neighborhood of Highview Park/Hall's Hill along Lee Highway.

I don't know what you're looking for, but I think it's a bit of hyperbole to think that you're going to be screwed, or more screwed than any of the rest of us. We're all getting lemons because of the failure to adequately address capacity in a timely manner, and because of the limited land and resources at APS's disposal. Not many of us are getting a better deal in all of this. And none of us are going to get the perfect situation. It's time to accept this, and try to make lemonade.

There are plenty of ES aged children.

Are five kids "plenty?" Where do they go to ES? Show me the receipts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the options that would best serve Arlington aren't being offered. One option would be to open Kenmore as a 1300 seat choice school to start-- and put a choice program there that people actually want, not this "world languages" stuff-- and then turn it into a 2200 seat comprehensive high school in the future once a new middle school is built at VHC or somewhere else. Second option is to build out the Career Center into a real 2200 seat comprehensive science and technology high school like TJHS in Fairfax-- complete with its own extracurriculars so the kids don't have to return to WL, WF, and YT. It would not have space for a football team and a swim team, but we all know that enough Arlington parents would chomp at the bit to send their kids to a real science high school so I don't think there would be as much complaining about the trade-off if it came with state of the art labs and AP science classes. APS says they love choice schools, but those three options that were presented only included a choice school if you were fine with IB/World Languages at WL.

Can you please mount an insurgent campaign for school board asap? We will fight for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SALA - If a Northie shows up with soup and shirts, please know that she is from 22213 and is using you for her own purposes.

Ok...
But what kind of soup are talking here?
SALA can be bought.

Depends on the weather. If it's nippy out, gingered pork with csbbage. If it's summer, cold cucumber with a hint of curry

I also take requests.


Love,
22201

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SALA - If a Northie shows up with soup and shirts, please know that she is from 22213 and is using you for her own purposes.

Ok...
But what kind of soup are talking here?
SALA can be bought.

Depends on the weather. If it's nippy out, gingered pork with csbbage. If it's summer, cold cucumber with a hint of curry

I also take requests.


Love,
22201

You had me a gingered pork. Put 1300 kids wherever you like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the options that would best serve Arlington aren't being offered. One option would be to open Kenmore as a 1300 seat choice school to start-- and put a choice program there that people actually want, not this "world languages" stuff-- and then turn it into a 2200 seat comprehensive high school in the future once a new middle school is built at VHC or somewhere else. Second option is to build out the Career Center into a real 2200 seat comprehensive science and technology high school like TJHS in Fairfax-- complete with its own extracurriculars so the kids don't have to return to WL, WF, and YT. It would not have space for a football team and a swim team, but we all know that enough Arlington parents would chomp at the bit to send their kids to a real science high school so I don't think there would be as much complaining about the trade-off if it came with state of the art labs and AP science classes. APS says they love choice schools, but those three options that were presented only included a choice school if you were fine with IB/World Languages at WL.

Can you please mount an insurgent campaign for school board asap? We will fight for you.

+1 Please run, I'm asking "pretty please."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the options that would best serve Arlington aren't being offered. One option would be to open Kenmore as a 1300 seat choice school to start-- and put a choice program there that people actually want, not this "world languages" stuff-- and then turn it into a 2200 seat comprehensive high school in the future once a new middle school is built at VHC or somewhere else. Second option is to build out the Career Center into a real 2200 seat comprehensive science and technology high school like TJHS in Fairfax-- complete with its own extracurriculars so the kids don't have to return to WL, WF, and YT. It would not have space for a football team and a swim team, but we all know that enough Arlington parents would chomp at the bit to send their kids to a real science high school so I don't think there would be as much complaining about the trade-off if it came with state of the art labs and AP science classes. APS says they love choice schools, but those three options that were presented only included a choice school if you were fine with IB/World Languages at WL.

Can you please mount an insurgent campaign for school board asap? We will fight for you.

+1 Please run, I'm asking "pretty please."

+1

I can also provide soup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the options that would best serve Arlington aren't being offered. One option would be to open Kenmore as a 1300 seat choice school to start-- and put a choice program there that people actually want, not this "world languages" stuff-- and then turn it into a 2200 seat comprehensive high school in the future once a new middle school is built at VHC or somewhere else. Second option is to build out the Career Center into a real 2200 seat comprehensive science and technology high school like TJHS in Fairfax-- complete with its own extracurriculars so the kids don't have to return to WL, WF, and YT. It would not have space for a football team and a swim team, but we all know that enough Arlington parents would chomp at the bit to send their kids to a real science high school so I don't think there would be as much complaining about the trade-off if it came with state of the art labs and AP science classes. APS says they love choice schools, but those three options that were presented only included a choice school if you were fine with IB/World Languages at WL.

Can you please mount an insurgent campaign for school board asap? We will fight for you.

+1 Please run, I'm asking "pretty please."

Westover won't provide you soup, but we can probably get you a political rally at the Beer Garden.

[Anonymous]

Just looking over the JFAC documents and not only won't there be a school on the VHC site, but, I TOLD YOU SO GLEN CARLYN:

SR asked about affordable housing. It was explained it was a complementary use. She also asked about
group homes. SY suggested that would be a unique opportunity. JF showed the narrative section within
the use considerations & framework.

You're really going to wish you'd advocated for a school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just looking over the JFAC documents and not only won't there be a school on the VHC site, but, I TOLD YOU SO GLEN CARLYN:

SR asked about affordable housing. It was explained it was a complementary use. She also asked about
group homes. SY suggested that would be a unique opportunity. JF showed the narrative section within
the use considerations & framework.

You're really going to wish you'd advocated for a school.

You need to link some shit. No idea WTF you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the options that would best serve Arlington aren't being offered. One option would be to open Kenmore as a 1300 seat choice school to start-- and put a choice program there that people actually want, not this "world languages" stuff-- and then turn it into a 2200 seat comprehensive high school in the future once a new middle school is built at VHC or somewhere else. Second option is to build out the Career Center into a real 2200 seat comprehensive science and technology high school like TJHS in Fairfax-- complete with its own extracurriculars so the kids don't have to return to WL, WF, and YT. It would not have space for a football team and a swim team, but we all know that enough Arlington parents would chomp at the bit to send their kids to a real science high school so I don't think there would be as much complaining about the trade-off if it came with state of the art labs and AP science classes. APS says they love choice schools, but those three options that were presented only included a choice school if you were fine with IB/World Languages at WL.

There aren't enough bright kids in APS for a real math/science magnet on par with TJ. It would just cannibalize HB and W-L.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the options that would best serve Arlington aren't being offered. One option would be to open Kenmore as a 1300 seat choice school to start-- and put a choice program there that people actually want, not this "world languages" stuff-- and then turn it into a 2200 seat comprehensive high school in the future once a new middle school is built at VHC or somewhere else. Second option is to build out the Career Center into a real 2200 seat comprehensive science and technology high school like TJHS in Fairfax-- complete with its own extracurriculars so the kids don't have to return to WL, WF, and YT. It would not have space for a football team and a swim team, but we all know that enough Arlington parents would chomp at the bit to send their kids to a real science high school so I don't think there would be as much complaining about the trade-off if it came with state of the art labs and AP science classes. APS says they love choice schools, but those three options that were presented only included a choice school if you were fine with IB/World Languages at WL.

There aren't enough bright kids in APS for a real math/science magnet on par with TJ. It would just cannibalize HB and W-L.

Ding ding!
Fairfax county # of students - 186,000
Arlington county # of students - 26,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just looking over the JFAC documents and not only won't there be a school on the VHC site, but, I TOLD YOU SO GLEN CARLYN:

SR asked about affordable housing. It was explained it was a complementary use. She also asked about
group homes. SY suggested that would be a unique opportunity. JF showed the narrative section within
the use considerations & framework.

You're really going to wish you'd advocated for a school.

You need to link some shit. No idea WTF you are talking about.

I quoted from the meeting minutes of the last JFAC Carlin Springs subcommittee meeting:

https://arlingtonva.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/05/JFAC-Carlin-Spring-Subcommittee-4-Minutes_FINAL.pdf

Uses being discussed for this property are affordable housing and group homes.