Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?

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I paid $1,000 for my ELFA closet systems...so yes I'm taking those bitches with me. Just pointing that out.

Take them down before you show the house then. I know how ELFA is mounted (the top rack drilled into the wall, the rest hanging on those racks), so it's not totally unreasonable to take it, but you shouldn't show the house with it in place.

If it's anchored to the wall, it's a fixture which conveys unless explicitly excluded in the listing. If you want to keep it, remove it before showing the house or include language in the listing stating that it does not convey. Otherwise, you may end up having to fork over cash at closing to get the buyer to sign.

The way ELFA works, the top bar is anchored to the wall but everything else hangs off of that and can be taken down without any tools - as easy as taking a coat hanger off of a rack. It's a gray area, but anyone who saw it when showing wouldn't necessarily know it wasn't anchored to the wall. So that's why I said take it down before showing - you're asking for problems if you leave it up when showing.

Most people have their actual clothes in their closet during showings. I don't have elfa but I wouldn't want it to convey either. My parents spent like 7k on their elfa. You can adjust it to fit any closet.

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MAILBOX. Having to run out and buy one is pretty annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:MAILBOX. Having to run out and buy one is pretty annoying.

WHAT?! Did they not have a mailbox in the new house they were moving to??? Was it some kind of special mailbox??? People are insane. Building came with a whole different set of issues but at least I didn't have to worry that I wouldn't have a mailbox because the previous owners decided it was too precious to leave.

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Sellers took the rods that hold down the carpet on our stairs. Contract also said that curtains would convey, but they swapped out the nice custom drapes we saw at showing with some cheap ugly ones. We got the rods back and got some money for the window treatments, but not enough to cover the cost of replacing what they took.

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I can understand to a point light bulbs. if i were to sell my house tomorrow I'd take all the light bulbs. just for the simple fact that they are all LED, and LED bulbs are not cheap.

Now I would swap them out with some cheap incandescent for florescent bulbs. I'd never leave the house dark...

Some of this shit sounds really petty like there was some really bad blood when going to negotiations. like the seller thought they were getting ripped off or raked over the coals

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Flowerboxes from the windows.

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The thing that you place wood on top of IN the fireplace.

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I paid $1,000 for my ELFA closet systems...so yes I'm taking those bitches with me. Just pointing that out.

Take them down before you show the house then. I know how ELFA is mounted (the top rack drilled into the wall, the rest hanging on those racks), so it's not totally unreasonable to take it, but you shouldn't show the house with it in place.

If it's anchored to the wall, it's a fixture which conveys unless explicitly excluded in the listing. If you want to keep it, remove it before showing the house or include language in the listing stating that it does not convey. Otherwise, you may end up having to fork over cash at closing to get the buyer to sign.

The way ELFA works, the top bar is anchored to the wall but everything else hangs off of that and can be taken down without any tools - as easy as taking a coat hanger off of a rack. It's a gray area, but anyone who saw it when showing wouldn't necessarily know it wasn't anchored to the wall. So that's why I said take it down before showing - you're asking for problems if you leave it up when showing.

Most people have their actual clothes in their closet during showings. I don't have elfa but I wouldn't want it to convey either. My parents spent like 7k on their elfa. You can adjust it to fit any closet.

+1. Where are the items in the closet supposed to go if you take down the shelving?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that you place wood on top of IN the fireplace.

The andirons? Those are pricey and I wouldn't expect them to convey either.

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I think the ordinary grate, hardly pricey.

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I paid $1,000 for my ELFA closet systems...so yes I'm taking those bitches with me. Just pointing that out.

Take them down before you show the house then. I know how ELFA is mounted (the top rack drilled into the wall, the rest hanging on those racks), so it's not totally unreasonable to take it, but you shouldn't show the house with it in place.

If it's anchored to the wall, it's a fixture which conveys unless explicitly excluded in the listing. If you want to keep it, remove it before showing the house or include language in the listing stating that it does not convey. Otherwise, you may end up having to fork over cash at closing to get the buyer to sign.

The way ELFA works, the top bar is anchored to the wall but everything else hangs off of that and can be taken down without any tools - as easy as taking a coat hanger off of a rack. It's a gray area, but anyone who saw it when showing wouldn't necessarily know it wasn't anchored to the wall. So that's why I said take it down before showing - you're asking for problems if you leave it up when showing.

Most people have their actual clothes in their closet during showings. I don't have elfa but I wouldn't want it to convey either. My parents spent like 7k on their elfa. You can adjust it to fit any closet.

I wouldn't necessarily say that they should remove all of the shelving when showing the house, but at the very least if you are planning to disassemble the only means of hanging items in the closets and taking them with you, that should be explicitly stated in the contract. I would never expect to move into a house and have to install shelving in the closets in order to be able to hang anything unless I was already informed that would be the case.

+1. Where are the items in the closet supposed to go if you take down the shelving?

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I'm surprised how many people think window treatments, like the curtains not blinds, should stay. Do you expect the shower curtain to be left?

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We had Elfa. It was extensive. We took it with us. Prior to moving out we replaced it with a standard shelf and rod. We patched and painted all the closets.

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I'm the original 'removed all the closet shelving' PP: First of all this wasn't Elfa - it was probably Home Depot and each shelf attached to wall so technically would have convey even if we hadn't written it in the contract (all blinds, shelving, curtain rods, etc.) We did a walk-through - again - noting that all was there both before settlement and day before they moved out after we gave them a month rent back. What happened in our specific case is that sometime in the 24 hrs after that walk through and when they moved out they came in and took all the shelving down. Those of you saying yo;d keep the elfa - shoot even these knock offs - really miss the point of the ridiculousness of the labor involved #1 in taking each down, closet after closet and then unless they were building new (which I actually knew they weren't) you'd not only have to put them back up but saw each and every shelf to fit the new home. Them stealing them was outrageous as it was spelled out in contract - but to think it was worth it given all the trouble involved made it just seem extra bad. Again - them moving out of state effectively took it out of my hands as I didn't want to deal with the complexity but geeze what a mean-spirited thing to do

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This wasn't a surprise because they told us it didn't convey, but the washing machine. That in itself I didn't find odd, but they left the dryer. I was glad I only had to buy one and not both, but I still found it weird.