The Menendez Brothers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Murder is justifiable if you are getting abused

But the brothers weren’t being abused at the moment. So their punishment is appropriate.

[Anonymous]

As a person who was horribly abused, in a big fancy house, by parents who were extremely well respected and appeared very normal to everyone outside of the family—I don’t doubt abuse for one second with murder of parents.

Occum’s razor — they were pushed to the edge by abuse? Or so spoiled they shot their parents multiple times at close range with a shotgun? I’m not saying they aren’t sociopaths; I’m saying even if they are it is highly unlikely they’d kill because they are spoiled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a person who was horribly abused, in a big fancy house, by parents who were extremely well respected and appeared very normal to everyone outside of the family—I don’t doubt abuse for one second with murder of parents.

Occum’s razor — they were pushed to the edge by abuse? Or so spoiled they shot their parents multiple times at close range with a shotgun? I’m not saying they aren’t sociopaths; I’m saying even if they are it is highly unlikely they’d kill because they are spoiled.

They didn’t seem particularly remorseful. Spending money and having a good old time on their ill gotten gains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder is justifiable if you are getting abused

But the brothers weren’t being abused at the moment. So their punishment is appropriate.

You are misunderstanding the point. It is not about setting them free or forgoing punishment, but about the difference between premeditated first degree murder and the legal definition of second degree murder.

The spending spree was not that much out of line for people raised in Beverly Hills or that money bubble

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I am still on the fence about this case.

Sure, on one hand they had golden opportunities that not every person gets.
They were raised in mansions w/maids and all of that.
They also had the opportunity to attend Princeton & UCLA which are fine colleges.

Lyle cheated, got suspended by Princeton.
They committed residential robberies for the adrenaline rush since money was not even an issue.

Worse....
After their parents were murdered they practically dug their own graves by generously spending what $$ their parents had left them.
That wasn't exactly the smartest move on their part, but hey who makes smart decisions at 18 and 21....??!

But on the other hand by all accounts their Father was a tyrant as a Husband, Father and Professional in his field.
He hit & cheated on his wife and may have sexually/physically/mentally abused his sons.

That is the tricky part:
Either they both should of won Academy Awards in '90 for best acting EVER or they endured unimaginable sexual abuse from their Dad at an early age.

Watching them cocky on camera one minute (who can ever remember Erik's smirk when the camera was on his face?) to seeing them cry in distress recalling how their Dad abused them, etc....,well that is a tough watch when they testified.

But no matter what, I still see no logic for them blowing away their Mother, using the pathetic excuse they wanted to put her out of her misery.

Sorry the buck stopped there with me.

Any parent who allows abuse is complicit in it. You protect your children; full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if they were abused I don’t believe you can justify killing their abusers in the manner in which they did. It was completely premeditated and not in self defense.

Psychological abuse, Stockholm’s syndrome, codependency, family secrets and enabling all in one.

Can’t believe the parents weren’t murdered earlier.

They certainly deserved to be murdered earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder is justifiable if you are getting abused

They didn’t report anything. Not over the years and not after the incident. Granted those were different days and one bro had Hollywood and Presidency eyes.

Children almost never report their parents for abuse. And father/son sexual abuse? In the 80s?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a person who was horribly abused, in a big fancy house, by parents who were extremely well respected and appeared very normal to everyone outside of the family—I don’t doubt abuse for one second with murder of parents.

Occum’s razor — they were pushed to the edge by abuse? Or so spoiled they shot their parents multiple times at close range with a shotgun? I’m not saying they aren’t sociopaths; I’m saying even if they are it is highly unlikely they’d kill because they are spoiled.

They didn’t seem particularly remorseful. Spending money and having a good old time on their ill gotten gains.

What does that have to do with anything? They should feel remorse for having killed the people who made their life hell?

And they spent a bunch of money? So what, everyone in Beverly Hills spends a bunch of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder is justifiable if you are getting abused

But the brothers weren’t being abused at the moment. So their punishment is appropriate.

You are misunderstanding the point. It is not about setting them free or forgoing punishment, but about the difference between premeditated first degree murder and the legal definition of second degree murder.

The spending spree was not that much out of line for people raised in Beverly Hills or that money bubble

Except the vast majority of people don’t murder their parents in order to do it. There is something really wrong with these brothers. And if you say blame the parents then you might as well dig into the parents’ past to see what skeletons were in their closets. Was the father also abused?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a person who was horribly abused, in a big fancy house, by parents who were extremely well respected and appeared very normal to everyone outside of the family—I don’t doubt abuse for one second with murder of parents.

Occum’s razor — they were pushed to the edge by abuse? Or so spoiled they shot their parents multiple times at close range with a shotgun? I’m not saying they aren’t sociopaths; I’m saying even if they are it is highly unlikely they’d kill because they are spoiled.

They didn’t seem particularly remorseful. Spending money and having a good old time on their ill gotten gains.

What does that have to do with anything? They should feel remorse for having killed the people who made their life hell?

And they spent a bunch of money? So what, everyone in Beverly Hills spends a bunch of money.

Then they should have done the right thing by turning themselves in for their completely justified killing. But, nay, they tried to cover their tracks, establish an alibi, told lies, and lived like kings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched it. I do believe their father molested them as punishment when they were young but not when they got to pre teen age. No way their mother did anything sexual. As for them saying she knew and condoned the abuse ? I don't think she did.

It was shocking to hear Dad was a serial cheater/hooker buyer. I doubt Kitty was an alcoholic. She had no friends and was so alone. I do believe she was treated bad by the father. I also believe them saying they put her out of her misery.

They HATED their father. They looked at their mother as weak. Money was a factor but not the factor. It was a bonus.

Prison gave them a hard look. I have no sympathy though. They were out of control.

I also think Erik is gay.

His aged well!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a person who was horribly abused, in a big fancy house, by parents who were extremely well respected and appeared very normal to everyone outside of the family—I don’t doubt abuse for one second with murder of parents.

Occum’s razor — they were pushed to the edge by abuse? Or so spoiled they shot their parents multiple times at close range with a shotgun? I’m not saying they aren’t sociopaths; I’m saying even if they are it is highly unlikely they’d kill because they are spoiled.

They didn’t seem particularly remorseful. Spending money and having a good old time on their ill gotten gains.

What does that have to do with anything? They should feel remorse for having killed the people who made their life hell?

And they spent a bunch of money? So what, everyone in Beverly Hills spends a bunch of money.

It’s not ok to kill people and spend their money. Even Gypsy Rose Blanchard got 10 years and she didn’t even murder her mom herself. Not sure what kind of lenience people think the Menendez brothers would get for their crime. You can’t just kill people who did you wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And the fact that their Father killed the black family dog, then stuck the head in the refrigerator for his kids to see.....Well sorry but that would traumatized me for life plus in all honesty that would motivate me to inflict harm on whoever inflicted harm on an innocent animal for malice.

And I think they were angry at their Mother for letting them both suffer so much just made them lose the ultimate respect for her which may have been a motive for her killing.

Still not a good enough reason in my book.

I also think if the allegations about their Dad, including the dog thing, are true…thats a pretty good indication there is sociopathy and mental illness in the gene pool, which could also be a factor in their later actions.

[Anonymous]

Can a kind soul give me a summary of why they are back in the news and what's happening with their case (if anything)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can a kind soul give me a summary of why they are back in the news and what's happening with their case (if anything)?

Netflix has a true crime drama about the brothers called Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story. Nothing is going on with their case.