UVA vs Cornell, Georgetown, etc. for in-state

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing special about UVA. It's a fine state school. There are many.

Says the person who didn't get in. Sure, it's comparable to Berkeley and UCLA and U Mich, but no, it's not the same as all states' flagship campuses.

Uva is NOT comparable to Berkeley. It's insulting to Cal grads. It's even below Michigan and UCLA. Uva is comparable to Illinois, Texas, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin.

Wrong. UVA is consisitently ranked now no. 1, 2, or 3 compared to UCLA and Berkeley and almost always ahead of Michigan for best public university. https://news.virginia.edu/content/latest-us-news-rankings-place-four-uva-graduate-schools-nations-top-20?utm_source=DailyReport&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news. https://news.virginia.edu/content/among-nations-elite-us-news-gives-uva-no-2-public-university-ranking. http://www.virginia.edu/facts

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Anonymous wrote:Check the world rankings .

UVA is so far back you can't even find it.

The others are highly respected .

No one cares about world rankings. It's just another new marketing device for USNews, Princeton, etc. to make money. The truth is that all international students are coming here to study, especially from Indian, S. Korea and Japan. World rankings is a non issue in the world of college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are only freshman but have been debating with several people. If your kids get into UVA with in state tuition, do you go there versus a Top 15ish private, e.g., Northwestern, Cornell, Georgetown, etc.

It seems like it boils down to if you get Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, you go there over UVA. If you get lower tier ivies such as Penn, Cornell, you go to UVA because of cost difference. My view is any ivy over UVA. But I would not spend money on a Boston University, George Washington (I went there), NYU, etc. over UVA.

Thoughts? What ivies would you go to over UVA? Just HYP? Georgetown and Northwestern?

I will have three kids in college at same time (for two years) so tuition is a factor.

Like others, I think you are dangling carrots in front of children who may not be able to get into these schools and that's cruel. Do you have any idea what it takes to get into these schools? UVA is a 4.47, ACT 33-34 and top ten percent of high school class. Don't set your children up for failure!

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Deal with the problem if and when it occurs — and it probably won’t.

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Anonymous wrote:But UVa vs Georgetown / Northwestern / UPenn / Cornell? No.

Only people whose kids can't get into or afford these colleges ever say crap like this.

Um, no. At some point the marginal benefit isn't worth the additional cost. If price were no object, the calculation might be different, but for most people cost is a significant factor.

Allowing my children to expand their horizons and go to college where they don't know 500 kids from high school is worth far more than newer Audis in my driveway. In-state state school experience is myopic, high school cliques, and 600 student freshman lectures. No thanks.

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It seems like it boils down to if you get Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, you go there over UVA. If you get lower tier ivies such as Penn, Cornell, you go to UVA because of cost difference.

The only people who talk like this are UVA parents. Nobody with a brain turns down Northwestern, Penn or Cornell for UVA.

+10000 post is obviously by a UVA booster. The only reason one would turn down any non-HYP ivy for UVA in-state is if they had a very hard time affording the ivy. But this is moot in most cases because such a family will likely qualify for some need-based at the non-HYP ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:Check the world rankings .

UVA is so far back you can't even find it.

The others are highly respected .

No one cares about world rankings. It's just another new marketing device for USNews, Princeton, etc. to make money. The truth is that all international students are coming here to study, especially from Indian, S. Korea and Japan. World rankings is a non issue in the world of college admissions.

This could not be further fro the truth. International rankings matter a lot to international students. This is why Harvard and Stanford are leaps and bounds ahead of Princeton and Yale in the eyes of international students, much more so than they are in the eyes of domestic students.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why you are worrying about a purely theoretical problem. But here's the answer: yes, HYP, Cornell, and Penn (but only Wharton undergrad) over UVA. Duke? Maybe. That's about it.

So you would choose Duke or Conrell over UVa in-state but you would not choose non-Wharton Penn? LOL....get real. Wharton is almost on par with HYPSM in terms of desirability, the rest of Penn is well above Cornell and also most probably slightly above Duke. All of them are way ahead of UVa.

The only people who debate turning down a non-HYP ivy and equivalent (Duke, Chicago, NU) for UVA are those who genuinely cannot afford the tuition at the ivy and might be too rich to qualify for substantial need-based aid. This is a very small number of people. No one in their right mind that could afford the ivy would go for UVA.

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VTech is full of "business" majors that totally got into UVA, but loved VTech more. Uva is full of status-obsessed frat boy "politics" majors that totally got into Ivies, but loved Uva more, bro. Lies. Wealthy parents send their kids to the best college they get into. Nobody with money wants the neighbors, people at the country club or business colleagues to think Jr is a drunken idiot.

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The only people who debate turning down a non-HYP ivy and equivalent (Duke, Chicago, NU) for UVA are those who genuinely cannot afford the tuition at the ivy and might be too rich to qualify for substantial need-based aid. This is a very small number of people. No one in their right mind that could afford the ivy would go for UVA.

In short, mommy wants a remodeled kitchen, so you're going to the flagship public! But 95+ % of the time it's because their kid was rejected from every elite private.

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Anonymous wrote:Check the world rankings .

UVA is so far back you can't even find it.

The others are highly respected .

Yep the world knows it's an easy school.

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You turn down UVA in state for HYP, Stanford, Cal Tech, or MIT. You turn down UVA for Wharton undergrad, I suppose. Turn it down for Duke? Tough one.

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Anonymous wrote:VTech is full of "business" majors that totally got into UVA, but loved VTech more. Uva is full of status-obsessed frat boy "politics" majors that totally got into Ivies, but loved Uva more, bro. Lies. Wealthy parents send their kids to the best college they get into. Nobody with money wants the neighbors, people at the country club or business colleagues to think Jr is a drunken idiot.

I have known in state VA Tech grads—bro types—who carry huge chips on their shoulders about their UVA rejections from the 90s. As UVA has soared, these men have gotten angrier about it—even as their lives and jobs are solid.

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Anonymous wrote:VTech is full of "business" majors that totally got into UVA, but loved VTech more. Uva is full of status-obsessed frat boy "politics" majors that totally got into Ivies, but loved Uva more, bro. Lies. Wealthy parents send their kids to the best college they get into. Nobody with money wants the neighbors, people at the country club or business colleagues to think Jr is a drunken idiot.

I have known in state VA Tech grads—bro types—who carry huge chips on their shoulders about their UVA rejections from the 90s. As UVA has soared, these men have gotten angrier about it—even as their lives and jobs are solid.

Yes, and they sure have been active since 14:47! One anti-UVA post after another. Sorry you didn't get in, but don't ruin it for the others!

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If you're going to major in something easy like English , business or history you can go to UVA or any school since nobody really cares. A business or history undergrad isn't so great wherever you go. If you are in a difficult Stem track you're better off at VT or Cornell.