UVA vs Cornell, Georgetown, etc. for in-state

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Nothing special about UVA. It's a fine state school. There are many.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing special about UVA. It's a fine state school. There are many.

Says the person who didn't get in. Sure, it's comparable to Berkeley and UCLA and U Mich, but no, it's not the same as all states' flagship campuses.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing special about UVA. It's a fine state school. There are many.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing special about UVA. It's a fine state school. There are many.

Says the person who didn't get in. Sure, it's comparable to Berkeley and UCLA and U Mich, but no, it's not the same as all states' flagship campuses.

Uva is NOT comparable to Berkeley. It's insulting to Cal grads. It's even below Michigan and UCLA. Uva is comparable to Illinois, Texas, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP here. Additional factor is they want to go to grad school so UVA Law also a good option and I hear they take UVA grads. Do you save the money for grad school in case they get into a top grad school out of state?

Don't top tier law schools take the best students? I don't think they are beholden to the undergraduate divisions.

So I am OP and a lawyer. Generally, they (like private schools in high schools and colleges) want the best academic students. The difference is that extracurricular activities compensate much less for law school. I believe UVA Law likes UVA undergrads meaning that they consider it a strong academic school and respect grades out of there. I went to GW but did not apply to GW Law because I didn't want to be in the same place for 7 years. That being said, the rumor was it was "harder" to get into the law school there from its own Undergrad because they wanted ivy kids or they wanted diverse undergrads. Trying to figure out how other law schools would view their own undergrad.

I went to Chicago undergrad but was waitlisted for law school. Word was that Chicago preferred diverse law students over homegrown ones. I don't know whether I would have gotten off the wait list or not - I declined the spot and went to another top 10 school where I was very happy.

I went to big state U and got into every top 10 law school except HLS and YLS. WL at HLS and rejected at Yale. I wasn't an extracurricular all star either. I just had good grades and LSAT. My parents gave me the money they didn't spend on undergrad for Law School.

you were wl at hls and got into stanford?

were you a non-trad candidate or funny/weird background?

I rarely hear of stanford admits and hls rejects.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing special about UVA. It's a fine state school. There are many.

Says the person who didn't get in. Sure, it's comparable to Berkeley and UCLA and U Mich, but no, it's not the same as all states' flagship campuses.

UVA's acceptance rate is 30%. I bet if you adjusted for only upper middle and upper class applicants, it's 50-60%. It's a good value, but UVA parents walk around with serious delusions of grandeur.

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UVA = good job, parents.

Cornell = great job, parents.

HYPS = holy shit, parents.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA = good job, parents.

Cornell = great job, parents.

HYPS = holy shit, parents.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are only freshman but have been debating with several people. If your kids get into UVA with in state tuition, do you go there versus a Top 15ish private, e.g., Northwestern, Cornell, Georgetown, etc.

It seems like it boils down to if you get Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, you go there over UVA. If you get lower tier ivies such as Penn, Cornell, you go to UVA because of cost difference. My view is any ivy over UVA. But I would not spend money on a Boston University, George Washington (I went there), NYU, etc. over UVA.

Thoughts? What ivies would you go to over UVA? Just HYP? Georgetown and Northwestern?

I will have three kids in college at same time (for two years) so tuition is a factor.

wow you are way ahead of yourself. Unless you are buying into a pre-paid UVA tuition situation, just chill for a while and see how your kids do. When they are juniors, you can see if they are the very tippy top of their class (ie. can they stand out in the new era where grade inflation and SAT score inflation make the top tier of kids essentially all seem 'flat' compared to each other) or have some 'pointy' area where they excel to the point of talking about HYP. Otherwise, you're just wasting your time even thinking about any of this... and should be googling Mary Washington too!

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It seems like it boils down to if you get Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, you go there over UVA. If you get lower tier ivies such as Penn, Cornell, you go to UVA because of cost difference.

The only people who talk like this are UVA parents. Nobody with a brain turns down Northwestern, Penn or Cornell for UVA.

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It seems like it boils down to if you get Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, you go there over UVA. If you get lower tier ivies such as Penn, Cornell, you go to UVA because of cost difference.

The only people who talk like this are UVA parents. Nobody with a brain turns down Northwestern, Penn or Cornell for UVA.

Assuming cost isn't an issue, I agree. UVA accepts 40-50 kids from my daughter's school each year. Maybe 5-10 of those kids would have a shot at Penn, Northwestern, etc. If you believe that a student can learn as much outside the classroom as inside, the quality of the classmates matters.

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It seems like it boils down to if you get Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, you go there over UVA. If you get lower tier ivies such as Penn, Cornell, you go to UVA because of cost difference.

The only people who talk like this are UVA parents. Nobody with a brain turns down Northwestern, Penn or Cornell for UVA.

I've met two UVA grads who were accepted at Ivy League schools, but their parents (who presumably could have afforded it based on other factors) forced them to go to UVA for the lower tuition. They are still very bitter about it decades later.

There are some parents who look at the price tag, think that translates into UVA being A-mazing, and won't consider other options. It's like a cult. There are at least a few posters on DCUM who think this way.

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Good god. The schools are different. UV A is a good school. Get rid of that inferiority complex.

If you have the money you have more choices and can find a better school or fit elsewhere.

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UVA is cheap in state. This artificially increases demand.