Police Arrest Teenager with Food on Metro

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much of our law enforcement system depends on how fixers and prosecutors' reasonable exercise of discretion. Metro had rules re eating, etc. seeing someone breach the rules (which allegedly happened here) provides cause for the detention/stop. Was this a wise exercise of discretion? Dunno. But it is not t advisable to disobey lawful law enforcement orders. She does not have to answer questions.

The point about discretion may be true generally, but I don't think it's true when it comes to eating in the metro. When officers see someone eating in the metro, they have the exact same response 100% of the time. They ask the person to throw the food out, put it away, or leave the metro system. It's not like when an officer decides if he's going to stop someone going 10 miles over the speed limit, ticket them or let them go with a warning. I don't think the officers have any discretion to just ignore someone eating in metro. (They may have discretion over how many times they'll ask the person to put it away before issuing a fine -- I've heard some officers won't ask -- they'll just issue the citation. Here, it seems like if any discretion was exercised, it was in the girl's favor, as they asked her repeatedly to put it away or leave metro.)

It's also a little unclear to me whether the officers are allowed to issue a written citation to a minor (if she is a minor -- there have been conflicting reports). I remember with the French fry case 15 years ago, the officers said they were in sort of a catch-22, as they weren't allowed to issue paper citations to minors (because they probably just throw them out), so they have to bring them in and contact their parents.

[Anonymous]

People, she was under arrest for UNLAWFUL ENTRY into the system. She was STEALING. The police just asked her to get rid of the chips and she didn't comply. She was not being arrested because of the chips. Given her failure to comply with the officers' requests, I see nothing wrong with how they responded to her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, she was under arrest for UNLAWFUL ENTRY into the system. She was STEALING. The police just asked her to get rid of the chips and she didn't comply. She was not being arrested because of the chips. Given her failure to comply with the officers' requests, I see nothing wrong with how they responded to her.

The headline obviously doesn't support this, but the text of the article states her arrest was for unlawful entry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much of our law enforcement system depends on how fixers and prosecutors' reasonable exercise of discretion. Metro had rules re eating, etc. seeing someone breach the rules (which allegedly happened here) provides cause for the detention/stop. Was this a wise exercise of discretion? Dunno. But it is not t advisable to disobey lawful law enforcement orders. She does not have to answer questions.

The point about discretion may be true generally, but I don't think it's true when it comes to eating in the metro. When officers see someone eating in the metro, they have the exact same response 100% of the time. They ask the person to throw the food out, put it away, or leave the metro system. It's not like when an officer decides if he's going to stop someone going 10 miles over the speed limit, ticket them or let them go with a warning. I don't think the officers have any discretion to just ignore someone eating in metro. (They may have discretion over how many times they'll ask the person to put it away before issuing a fine -- I've heard some officers won't ask -- they'll just issue the citation. Here, it seems like if any discretion was exercised, it was in the girl's favor, as they asked her repeatedly to put it away or leave metro.)

It's also a little unclear to me whether the officers are allowed to issue a written citation to a minor (if she is a minor -- there have been conflicting reports). I remember with the French fry case 15 years ago, the officers said they were in sort of a catch-22, as they weren't allowed to issue paper citations to minors (because they probably just throw them out), so they have to bring them in and contact their parents.

Girl just needed to put the food away. She deserves what she got for being belligerent.

[Anonymous]

This is a darn shame. This is getting out of hand. Now we (the black community), thinks that we can stand up for every little thing against police officers, even if we are in the wrong. She went into the metro without paying. Not only that but she began to eat. On top of that, she refused to give out information on who she was, such as a name. The officers tried multiple times to allow her to put the food away and to leave. She refused. A disgrace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a darn shame. This is getting out of hand. Now we (the black community), thinks that we can stand up for every little thing against police officers, even if we are in the wrong. She went into the metro without paying. Not only that but she began to eat. On top of that, she refused to give out information on who she was, such as a name. The officers tried multiple times to allow her to put the food away and to leave. She refused. A disgrace.

We, the f*** who??? This girl doesn't have anything to do with me or any of the black people I know or am related to!
She makes you think you can say and do anything, since you are "we"!!
Bye Felecia!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I feel so bad for that kid.

I feel bad for cops that put up with backtalk from mouthy citizens.

Are we talking about those useless Metro police, who stand by while crimes occur?

[Anonymous]

I told my white 15 year old who is a daily Metro rider about this story. He said, were they black or a teenager? I said both. He said whenever security is increased at Union Station for bag searches they always target teenagers and black people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a darn shame. This is getting out of hand. Now we (the black community), thinks that we can stand up for every little thing against police officers, even if we are in the wrong. She went into the metro without paying. Not only that but she began to eat. On top of that, she refused to give out information on who she was, such as a name. The officers tried multiple times to allow her to put the food away and to leave. She refused. A disgrace.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I told my white 15 year old who is a daily Metro rider about this story. He said, were they black or a teenager? I said both. He said whenever security is increased at Union Station for bag searches they always target teenagers and black people.

They target whoever they get "informed" about. You might want to share that with young sherlock.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to guess that this teenager has seen many white people on the metro, eating and drinking whatever the hell they want. She has never seen them so much as blinked at, but she is singled out for the potato chips and lollipop.

That being said - for real? Just put the food in your back pack and keep moving. To be frank, most middle class+ black folks tell their children very early on: follow the rules. It doesn't matter WHO you see breaking the rules, because when the police show up, YOU are the first person that gets arrested/detained/spoken to. This is a perfect example of that, and (I hope) she learned a hard lesson.

The transit officer DID give her a chance to actually put the food away, so she has no sympathy from me there. However, the transit officer over-reacted about potato chips.

You're right- - - you are TOTALLY GUESSING!! And with racially prejudiced attitudes. Good luck with raising racially healthy kids in your house.

I've asked twice to put away food in the metro. The first time I was in college and on my way to work waiting on a platform (eating somewhat messy food but don't remember exactly what). The second time was when I was 35 (was feeling sick and started eating kids' goldfish). That's twice out of the probably 5-6 times I've tried to eat on metro over the past decades. Each time, I was embarrassed, new I had done something wrong and against the rules, throughout the food immediately, and apologized. I am a white woman.

I know, but SHE hasn't seen that. She lives in a completely different world than you and I do. She feels like she is being picked on/singled out unfairly, versus seeing it as she just got caught not following the rules. As I stated, just follow the rules! She had a chance to put the stuff away and got combative instead.

Plus her nasty attitude is mostly like enabled by her friends, family and BLM. My kids attended a school with a very high percentage of minorities and some of the attitudes are interesting, shall we say. For example, AA kid gets a paper handed back with a bad grade and hollers "you're racist!" at the teacher. It's really sad. Quite eye opening. Those whose kids only attend privates or majority white schools have no idea what many of these children are like.

yea, that happens every day with us all innercity, non-educated, bullet dodging blacks. Yep, anytime something happens that we don't like, we shout out that the system is rigged. This is especially true of kids, kids to it most.

You cannot dis her or his experience if u were not there. You do not know but you are still willing to argue. That's what causes even more issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. LISTEN TO THE POLICE.

(those of you who aren't watching and are just jumping on the race train, these officers aren't white).

+1. No sympathy for her from me.

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To all those who say "but I eat on the train all the time and I'm white" -- stop eating on the train.

I am white and never eat on train. I know it is the rule.

Actually. I did it once. Was about to pass out, hypoglycemic. Was mortified though and terrified of getting caught. Though I was clearly sick.

If someone makes a reasonable request to follow a clear rule. Follow it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I told my white 15 year old who is a daily Metro rider about this story. He said, were they black or a teenager? I said both. He said whenever security is increased at Union Station for bag searches they always target teenagers and black people.

Because they are the ones doing the crimes. Statistics do not lie. Do you think they should stop the 60yr old Jewish lawyer instead?

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Anonymous wrote:Trains don't work, people get raped, real crime occurs - kid with food gets targeted


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/metro-transit-police-arrest-teenager-for-carrying-chips-and-lollipop-into-station/2016/10/19/1360a014-9627-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_metro-635pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Metro Transit Police are being criticized for excessive use of force after a video posted Tuesday showed an officer pushing and tripping a high school student, knocking her to the ground, after she refused to throw away a bag of potato chips and a lollipop.

The three-minute video, posted by a member of the District’s Black Lives Matter chapter, shows the 18-year-old in handcuffs, surrounded by three police officers, just outside the fare gates at Columbia Heights station.

I remember bringing a banana in the metro and an officer coming up to me and saying "please discard the banana or we will have to fine you." Bam! Apologized, said I completely forgot (which I did) and threw it away. You know what they said back "Have a nice day." Done and over.

All I see here is complete disrespect and her not complying with the Metro rules or direct security/police orders. My child would NEVER act that way towards a police officer. If she did, I would expect this to happen, apologize to them for her wasting their time with her behavior, make her apologize directly for her behavior, and also make sure she had enough community service hours cleaning the same metro station she completely made a fool of herself in.

But for some reason, there are people in this world that believe that they don't have to comply with rules or orders and can come and go as they please. Then play victim when an officer does anything. I am sure her mom will be just like her and turn this into a circus. You can hear the man video taping in the background "she is just a little girl." No, she was a straight up B with attitude, fighting with police, and cursing like a sailor. That is not a little girl.

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Self-entitled trash is what she is. Just adding to the stereotype that hardworking African Americans are trying to get rid of.

How does that work? Because all African Americans are the same and some random girl in the Metro station represents all of them?

No but if the entire country continues to see AA's disrespect police and have people videotaping saying "she is only a little girl" after she jumped the turnstile, eating, cursing, and fighting, then you are enabling others to increase this attitude and it is becoming harder and harder for everyone (cops and civilians) to not regard race into their decisions. AA's like this girl are making BLM worse and the fact someone video tapes it to show she was wronged and not just a B, is even worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People, she was under arrest for UNLAWFUL ENTRY into the system. She was STEALING. The police just asked her to get rid of the chips and she didn't comply. She was not being arrested because of the chips. Given her failure to comply with the officers' requests, I see nothing wrong with how they responded to her.

The headline obviously doesn't support this, but the text of the article states her arrest was for unlawful entry.

Shhhh, that would ruin the outrage of the girl getting "manhandled by police for just a lollipop!!" It doesn't stir everyone up like the media wants.