Police Arrest Teenager with Food on Metro

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to guess that this teenager has seen many white people on the metro, eating and drinking whatever the hell they want. She has never seen them so much as blinked at, but she is singled out for the potato chips and lollipop.

That being said - for real? Just put the food in your back pack and keep moving. To be frank, most middle class+ black folks tell their children very early on: follow the rules. It doesn't matter WHO you see breaking the rules, because when the police show up, YOU are the first person that gets arrested/detained/spoken to. This is a perfect example of that, and (I hope) she learned a hard lesson.

The transit officer DID give her a chance to actually put the food away, so she has no sympathy from me there. However, the transit officer over-reacted about potato chips.

You're right- - - you are TOTALLY GUESSING!! And with racially prejudiced attitudes. Good luck with raising racially healthy kids in your house.

I've asked twice to put away food in the metro. The first time I was in college and on my way to work waiting on a platform (eating somewhat messy food but don't remember exactly what). The second time was when I was 35 (was feeling sick and started eating kids' goldfish). That's twice out of the probably 5-6 times I've tried to eat on metro over the past decades. Each time, I was embarrassed, new I had done something wrong and against the rules, throughout the food immediately, and apologized. I am a white woman.

It's not rocket science. If you eat on the metro you are breaking the rules. If an officer tells you to dump your food, you dump it, because, again, you are breaking the rules. Don't care what race you are, dump the food. If someone chooses to disobey, out of frustration based on a feeling (justified or not) of racial profiling, religious profiling, gender profiling, or any other reason, there are consequences. If you feel you've been treated unfairly, obey the officer's request (unless it is to do something illegal), then follow up with the police department. You don't get to disobey law enforcement simply because, in the moment, you believe that you know what's in the officer's mind. Not at all hard to understand. I would be humiliated and disgusted if my child disobeyed the rules,, then disobeyed an officer, and all the while with an entitled, dismissive attitude.

I know, but SHE hasn't seen that. She lives in a completely different world than you and I do. She feels like she is being picked on/singled out unfairly, versus seeing it as she just got caught not following the rules. As I stated, just follow the rules! She had a chance to put the stuff away and got combative instead.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I don't think this girl should be the poster girl for much of anything. I feel bad for the officers here --- I'm not sure what else they could have done (I'm open to suggestions). They asked her repeatedly to put it away; she refused; asked for her ID; she refused; asked her to sit down; she refused. Are they just supposed to walk away and not enforce the rules? Is that fair? From what I saw, I don't think they kicked her -- I think they used the approved "take down" measure, which is to put some pressure against the back of the knee so that the person has to get down. Had she just put the damn chips in her backpack, none of that would have happened.

FWIW, I've been riding metro daily for about 20 years. It is very, very rare that I see people eating on metro. (Maybe a couple times a year.) Most of the time that I see it, it is a tourist snacking on something, and I usually tell them that it is not permitted and can result in large fines if they are seen by a transit officer. The other times that I see it, it is usually a younger person eating something really messy and smelly like McDonalds or takeout food and you can tell that they absolutely know they are violating the rule and don't care.

Rats are a huge problem in this city, and I'd prefer not to have even more of them in the metro system. Plus there's nothing grosser than sitting down in a metro seat where someone spilled ketchup (other than the rats -- they are grosser). The no-eating rule is a smart rule. People should follow it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to guess that this teenager has seen many white people on the metro, eating and drinking whatever the hell they want. She has never seen them so much as blinked at, but she is singled out for the potato chips and lollipop.

That being said - for real? Just put the food in your back pack and keep moving. To be frank, most middle class+ black folks tell their children very early on: follow the rules. It doesn't matter WHO you see breaking the rules, because when the police show up, YOU are the first person that gets arrested/detained/spoken to. This is a perfect example of that, and (I hope) she learned a hard lesson.

The transit officer DID give her a chance to actually put the food away, so she has no sympathy from me there. However, the transit officer over-reacted about potato chips.

You're right- - - you are TOTALLY GUESSING!! And with racially prejudiced attitudes. Good luck with raising racially healthy kids in your house.

I've asked twice to put away food in the metro. The first time I was in college and on my way to work waiting on a platform (eating somewhat messy food but don't remember exactly what). The second time was when I was 35 (was feeling sick and started eating kids' goldfish). That's twice out of the probably 5-6 times I've tried to eat on metro over the past decades. Each time, I was embarrassed, new I had done something wrong and against the rules, throughout the food immediately, and apologized. I am a white woman.

I know, but SHE hasn't seen that. She lives in a completely different world than you and I do. She feels like she is being picked on/singled out unfairly, versus seeing it as she just got caught not following the rules. As I stated, just follow the rules! She had a chance to put the stuff away and got combative instead.

Sorry friend, but in MY world, I don't have to have "seen" something for myself to comply with a police officer's request johnny- on- the- spot (which mean immediately! ) . Last week I was asked to have my bag searched by another middle age white woman in a store, and even SHE deserved compliance. I showed her my bag, paid for my goods, and left. Is this sinking in?

You are barking up the wrong tree, "friend". I stated SEVERAL TIMES that she should have just put the food up. I can simultaneously think she was dead wrong for her demeanor, should have put the food up, the transit officer over-reacted AND understand the girl's PO V. See how that works?

Not disagreeing with you, tagging on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the reason for the arrest. I understand that food is technically not allowed on Metro, but what do we say about all the yuppies in Lulu Lemon with a Whole Foods bag? I see this as prejudicial enforcement.

What? How much kale did you smoke today?
What does tge Lulu Lemon store have to do with the metro system?

I think the pp's main point was that they go on the metro with bags full of food. How did you get so hung on up on the lulu lemons?...smh

You can carry food, nitwit. You can't eat it. She was eating it and she refused to comply. Not saying in any way she deserved arrest, but how can people be that dense?

[Anonymous]

So much of our law enforcement system depends on how fixers and prosecutors' reasonable exercise of discretion. Metro had rules re eating, etc. seeing someone breach the rules (which allegedly happened here) provides cause for the detention/stop. Was this a wise exercise of discretion? Dunno. But it is not t advisable to disobey lawful law enforcement orders. She does not have to answer questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much of our law enforcement system depends on how fixers and prosecutors' reasonable exercise of discretion. Metro had rules re eating, etc. seeing someone breach the rules (which allegedly happened here) provides cause for the detention/stop. Was this a wise exercise of discretion? Dunno. But it is not t advisable to disobey lawful law enforcement orders. She does not have to answer questions.

^^ officers

[Anonymous]

We have truly become a strange and decadent country if we are to blessing over this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to guess that this teenager has seen many white people on the metro, eating and drinking whatever the hell they want. She has never seen them so much as blinked at, but she is singled out for the potato chips and lollipop.

That being said - for real? Just put the food in your back pack and keep moving. To be frank, most middle class+ black folks tell their children very early on: follow the rules. It doesn't matter WHO you see breaking the rules, because when the police show up, YOU are the first person that gets arrested/detained/spoken to. This is a perfect example of that, and (I hope) she learned a hard lesson.

The transit officer DID give her a chance to actually put the food away, so she has no sympathy from me there. However, the transit officer over-reacted about potato chips.

You're right- - - you are TOTALLY GUESSING!! And with racially prejudiced attitudes. Good luck with raising racially healthy kids in your house.

I've asked twice to put away food in the metro. The first time I was in college and on my way to work waiting on a platform (eating somewhat messy food but don't remember exactly what). The second time was when I was 35 (was feeling sick and started eating kids' goldfish). That's twice out of the probably 5-6 times I've tried to eat on metro over the past decades. Each time, I was embarrassed, new I had done something wrong and against the rules, throughout the food immediately, and apologized. I am a white woman.

I know, but SHE hasn't seen that. She lives in a completely different world than you and I do. She feels like she is being picked on/singled out unfairly, versus seeing it as she just got caught not following the rules. As I stated, just follow the rules! She had a chance to put the stuff away and got combative instead.

Plus her nasty attitude is mostly like enabled by her friends, family and BLM. My kids attended a school with a very high percentage of minorities and some of the attitudes are interesting, shall we say. For example, AA kid gets a paper handed back with a bad grade and hollers "you're racist!" at the teacher. It's really sad. Quite eye opening. Those whose kids only attend privates or majority white schools have no idea what many of these children are like.

Pretty sure they think they have an idea what it's like. That's why white parents of any political persuasion move heaven and earth for so-called do great schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trains don't work, people get raped, real crime occurs - kid with food gets targeted


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/metro-transit-police-arrest-teenager-for-carrying-chips-and-lollipop-into-station/2016/10/19/1360a014-9627-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_metro-635pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Metro Transit Police are being criticized for excessive use of force after a video posted Tuesday showed an officer pushing and tripping a high school student, knocking her to the ground, after she refused to throw away a bag of potato chips and a lollipop.

The three-minute video, posted by a member of the District’s Black Lives Matter chapter, shows the 18-year-old in handcuffs, surrounded by three police officers, just outside the fare gates at Columbia Heights station.

I remember bringing a banana in the metro and an officer coming up to me and saying "please discard the banana or we will have to fine you." Bam! Apologized, said I completely forgot (which I did) and threw it away. You know what they said back "Have a nice day." Done and over.

All I see here is complete disrespect and her not complying with the Metro rules or direct security/police orders. My child would NEVER act that way towards a police officer. If she did, I would expect this to happen, apologize to them for her wasting their time with her behavior, make her apologize directly for her behavior, and also make sure she had enough community service hours cleaning the same metro station she completely made a fool of herself in.

But for some reason, there are people in this world that believe that they don't have to comply with rules or orders and can come and go as they please. Then play victim when an officer does anything. I am sure her mom will be just like her and turn this into a circus. You can hear the man video taping in the background "she is just a little girl." No, she was a straight up B with attitude, fighting with police, and cursing like a sailor. That is not a little girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd be curious to see what happened before all this. This only gives us a small picture but she clearly lacked judgement to give an attitude and continue to give one. I almost wonder if it was set up. The offer should not have kicked her down as she could have hurt herself falling down.

The police officers are acting extremely inappropriately to both the young woman and to observers. They should not have engaged. They are not behaving like you'd think real officers would when they are teasing and tormenting her.

He swiped her legs out to get her to sit after repeatedly telling her to sit. He was holding onto her arms while doing this and made sure she landed safety. But you try dealing with some of these lunatics day in and day out. Comply - don't die, or get hurt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to guess that this teenager has seen many white people on the metro, eating and drinking whatever the hell they want. She has never seen them so much as blinked at, but she is singled out for the potato chips and lollipop.

That being said - for real? Just put the food in your back pack and keep moving. To be frank, most middle class+ black folks tell their children very early on: follow the rules. It doesn't matter WHO you see breaking the rules, because when the police show up, YOU are the first person that gets arrested/detained/spoken to. This is a perfect example of that, and (I hope) she learned a hard lesson.

The transit officer DID give her a chance to actually put the food away, so she has no sympathy from me there. However, the transit officer over-reacted about potato chips.

You're right- - - you are TOTALLY GUESSING!! And with racially prejudiced attitudes. Good luck with raising racially healthy kids in your house.

I've asked twice to put away food in the metro. The first time I was in college and on my way to work waiting on a platform (eating somewhat messy food but don't remember exactly what). The second time was when I was 35 (was feeling sick and started eating kids' goldfish). That's twice out of the probably 5-6 times I've tried to eat on metro over the past decades. Each time, I was embarrassed, new I had done something wrong and against the rules, throughout the food immediately, and apologized. I am a white woman.

I know, but SHE hasn't seen that. She lives in a completely different world than you and I do. She feels like she is being picked on/singled out unfairly, versus seeing it as she just got caught not following the rules. As I stated, just follow the rules! She had a chance to put the stuff away and got combative instead.

Plus her nasty attitude is mostly like enabled by her friends, family and BLM. My kids attended a school with a very high percentage of minorities and some of the attitudes are interesting, shall we say. For example, AA kid gets a paper handed back with a bad grade and hollers "you're racist!" at the teacher. It's really sad. Quite eye opening. Those whose kids only attend privates or majority white schools have no idea what many of these children are like.

yea, that happens every day with us all innercity, non-educated, bullet dodging blacks. Yep, anytime something happens that we don't like, we shout out that the system is rigged. This is especially true of kids, kids to it most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the reason for the arrest. I understand that food is technically not allowed on Metro, but what do we say about all the yuppies in Lulu Lemon with a Whole Foods bag? I see this as prejudicial enforcement.

What? How much kale did you smoke today?
What does tge Lulu Lemon store have to do with the metro system?

I think the pp's main point was that they go on the metro with bags full of food. How did you get so hung on up on the lulu lemons?...smh

You can carry food, nitwit. You can't eat it. She was eating it and she refused to comply. Not saying in any way she deserved arrest, but how can people be that dense?

I was simply pointing out that you chose to respond to the lulu lemon part of the PP's statement and not the "carrying bags from whole foods"...you should have responded with "they can carry bags of food if they are not eating" instead of asking what their pants had to so with the response...nitwit...

[Anonymous]

I got called out by a metro employee for taking a sip of water this summer on a day that the station AC was broken and there was single tracking and I had been sitting waiting for over 30 minutes. He said to put it inside my bag or leave the station.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trains don't work, people get raped, real crime occurs - kid with food gets targeted


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/metro-transit-police-arrest-teenager-for-carrying-chips-and-lollipop-into-station/2016/10/19/1360a014-9627-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_metro-635pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Metro Transit Police are being criticized for excessive use of force after a video posted Tuesday showed an officer pushing and tripping a high school student, knocking her to the ground, after she refused to throw away a bag of potato chips and a lollipop.

The three-minute video, posted by a member of the District’s Black Lives Matter chapter, shows the 18-year-old in handcuffs, surrounded by three police officers, just outside the fare gates at Columbia Heights station.

I remember bringing a banana in the metro and an officer coming up to me and saying "please discard the banana or we will have to fine you." Bam! Apologized, said I completely forgot (which I did) and threw it away. You know what they said back "Have a nice day." Done and over.

All I see here is complete disrespect and her not complying with the Metro rules or direct security/police orders. My child would NEVER act that way towards a police officer. If she did, I would expect this to happen, apologize to them for her wasting their time with her behavior, make her apologize directly for her behavior, and also make sure she had enough community service hours cleaning the same metro station she completely made a fool of herself in.

But for some reason, there are people in this world that believe that they don't have to comply with rules or orders and can come and go as they please. Then play victim when an officer does anything. I am sure her mom will be just like her and turn this into a circus. You can hear the man video taping in the background "she is just a little girl." No, she was a straight up B with attitude, fighting with police, and cursing like a sailor. That is not a little girl.

+1

Self-entitled trash is what she is. Just adding to the stereotype that hardworking African Americans are trying to get rid of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trains don't work, people get raped, real crime occurs - kid with food gets targeted


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/metro-transit-police-arrest-teenager-for-carrying-chips-and-lollipop-into-station/2016/10/19/1360a014-9627-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_metro-635pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Metro Transit Police are being criticized for excessive use of force after a video posted Tuesday showed an officer pushing and tripping a high school student, knocking her to the ground, after she refused to throw away a bag of potato chips and a lollipop.

The three-minute video, posted by a member of the District’s Black Lives Matter chapter, shows the 18-year-old in handcuffs, surrounded by three police officers, just outside the fare gates at Columbia Heights station.

I remember bringing a banana in the metro and an officer coming up to me and saying "please discard the banana or we will have to fine you." Bam! Apologized, said I completely forgot (which I did) and threw it away. You know what they said back "Have a nice day." Done and over.

All I see here is complete disrespect and her not complying with the Metro rules or direct security/police orders. My child would NEVER act that way towards a police officer. If she did, I would expect this to happen, apologize to them for her wasting their time with her behavior, make her apologize directly for her behavior, and also make sure she had enough community service hours cleaning the same metro station she completely made a fool of herself in.

But for some reason, there are people in this world that believe that they don't have to comply with rules or orders and can come and go as they please. Then play victim when an officer does anything. I am sure her mom will be just like her and turn this into a circus. You can hear the man video taping in the background "she is just a little girl." No, she was a straight up B with attitude, fighting with police, and cursing like a sailor. That is not a little girl.

+1

Self-entitled trash is what she is. Just adding to the stereotype that hardworking African Americans are trying to get rid of.

How does that work? Because all African Americans are the same and some random girl in the Metro station represents all of them?