Bar/bat mitzvah t-shirts

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some people are way too sensitive. Not everyone can be invited to everything. If your 13 year old hasn't internalized that concept by this point you've done them a huge disservice. Are you going to follow them to college and ask girls in sororities to not wear anything indicating they're in that too?


Defensive much?

Your sports and sorority analogies display the logic and comprehension of a small child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some people are way too sensitive. Not everyone can be invited to everything. If your 13 year old hasn't internalized that concept by this point you've done them a huge disservice. Are you going to follow them to college and ask girls in sororities to not wear anything indicating they're in that too?


You honestly can't distinguish between being 13 in MS with a few hundred classmates and the same 50 popular kids vs. 18 at a college with thousands of young adults in hundreds of clubs?


Exactly! There were very few Jewish kids in my middle school, but I'm sure if I went to one of the W school feeders (we are zoned for one) I wouldn't have been invited to many. It definitely would have hurt my feelings. By college, my social skills had improved + I was around more of "my people" + there were so many different social groups/clubs/greek organizations. I happily found a sorority, and I also had many friends who chose to stay independent. Greek letters and Bat Mitzvah tees on Monday are not AT ALL the same.
Anonymous
This is such an interesting post. We just had a Bat Mitzvah and did shirts. My daughter is not at a W feeder school and is one of maybe 3 Jewish kids in her class, the only one who had a BM. All of the invited kids wore the shirts the next day and I thought of it as celebrating her - and supporting her Judaism since she is such a minority at the school. She wanted to give sweatshirts because it was a generous gift (believe me, we couldn’t do “all the trappings” so we spring for the shirts and cut back on other ways). I did not think of how it must make other kids feel who were not invited.. Ironically, we have a younger kid with autism who will be in middle school with a lot of other Jewish kids and I am certain will not be invited to many. She will not want to give away shirts at favors at hers, but this post has made me think differently. I also wanted to add another perspective as a parent who is not in one of those schools where this is commonplace. My daughter has a Jewish community from camp and Hebrew school, and most of them did an article of clothing as favors. I think she wanted to follow suit and give her non-Jewish friends something that felt personal and special. It really surprised me too that kids would wear something with other kids names on it!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kids are young, but do kids really wear some other kid's bar mitzvah shirt to school? How often?


Not just t-shirts, but freaking hoodie sweatshirts at some W middle schools in MCPS.
Anonymous
We are in the DCC. We are letting my daughter give away sweatshirts. I definitely see the other side and discussed it with her a bunch. But I am comfortable that she isn’t really excluding people. I don’t know how many people will wear it. We didn’t put her name on it but instead something else she chose to represent her with the date.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kids wouldn't like it either, but such is life, isn't it? My kids aren't having a bat/bar mitzvah and they haven't received shirts from friends, so I'm not saying this as a parent who has done this, but by 13ish, your child should generally get that life isn't always fair, no?


You sound like a mean mom who is raising mean kids.
Anonymous
Just another weapon in the social arms race. If schools banned the sweatshirts, it would be those metal bracelets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My three oldest kids were invited to many, many bar/bat mitzvahs during middle school (anywhere from 15-25 each), so we have had numerous tshirts/sweatshirts/sweatpants to commemorate these events. It is the practice to wear these items on the next school day . . . the kids even get angsty about deciding which one to wear if they attended more than one party on the same weekend. Having said that - I completely understand the OP's view and agree that this is a potentially hurtful practice. I often asked my kids to consider how other kids not invited to the party must feel on that school day when so many are wearing the same thing. It is exclusive and mean in practice, even though I'm sure that is not the intent. OP is not saying her kid is a "special snowflake" who needs his or her feelings protected due to a single incident. At some middle schools, like the ones my kids attended, these parties are practically every single weekend for the entire school year. A child who does not attend any and is faced with the same reminders not only on social media all weekend but then again at school on Monday must feel terrible. I'm shocked at all the adults on this board who lack enough empathy to feel bad for a child, let alone that child's parent. How hard is it to imagine your child or yourself in OP's position? OP, FWIW, I agree with you.


+1

I have kids at a W feeder MS and I would love it if the school would at least make parents aware that this is a form of exclusion. I honestly think half the parents who do the sweatshirts and t-shirts want to be exclusive and won't care, but the other half are just clueless that it makes other kids feel left out. It might cut down on the practice if the school administration pointed it out.
Anonymous
I certainly understand both sides.

As a parent of a child who had a bat mitzvah this year, I was dead set to not do clothing, but quickly realized it’s not as easy. I truly tried to steer her away from t-shirts, but at the same time, they were literally the cheapest gift we could find. In addition, she is at a W school and had mitzvahs every weekend and there was not one without a piece of clothing.

We made sure that she invited everyone who invited her and anyone that she was friends with but of course that is only a small part of the total class.

I don’t even think she cared about others wearing her shirt- she wanted it for herself!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids are young, but do kids really wear some other kid's bar mitzvah shirt to school? How often?



Yeah, I'm a bit stunned that this tacky party favor is still around... Was done more on Long Island than in New Jersey back in the day....


Seriously.
Anonymous
I have twins. One was on the A list and invited to many of these. The other wasn't, and well, wasn't. Honest to God's truth, the so-called left out kid could not have cared less. Your kids aren't as fragile as you think.
Anonymous
If he wasn’t friends with those kids he shouldn’t care. Those of us that grew up around Jewish kids all experiences this and it’s not a big deal.
Anonymous
My DD had a bat mitzvah last year, and honestly it would have been ridiculous for her to have given a shirt to every child in her grade. There are over 300 children in her grade and the cost of the shirts alone would be ridiculous. Additionally, we made sure she invited her whole soccer team (to make sure none were disclluded there), but to invite the whole grade? There are some kids she hates, or has never even talked to. Im sorry that these sensitive snowflakes can't deal with the fact that life is not always fair.
Anonymous
All 3 of my kids did hoodies (and when you buy in bulk they aren't anywhere near $55 - about half of that). Their MS had 375 kids per grade. That 20-25 of them (less than 10%) wear the sweatshirt really makes the other 325 (90%) feel bad? Get over yourself! The world doesn't owe you inviatations to every party, every event. And while 1 of my 3 was probably in the popular/in crowd, the other 2 were most definitely not. But they also worked hard, did an amazing job, and had tons of fun at their party. I had zero problem with the sweatshirts and would do it again in a second.

The kids wear shirts and hoodies from lots of different events they participate in, from 5k races to their soccer team to a charity event they volunteered at for SSL hours - I don't see a Mitzvah t-shirt or hoodie as anything different.

It's not like an ES event where everyone gets a trophy.
Anonymous
We are in the process of buying sweatshirts for my daughter’s bat mitzvah party. They are $16.75 a piece.
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