11-year-old says my food is terrible

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I doubt the first poster's child is as much of an outlier as you think. I suspect a lot of "picky eating" is actual food/texture aversion, and so people focus on the wrong aspect ("the child is being defiant," or "the child is being stubborn"), and the problem really isn't a battle of wills, but a need to help condition the child to new food textures/tastes. "

Sweet Jesus - I don't know that I've ever seen a more ridiculous statement in my life. You think the kid who lives in a trailer has "texture aversion". It is a privilege to refuse foods. Only people who have too much of it do it. Tell your child to eat it or not. Do not, I repeat DO NOT indulge this nonsense and all your child to control your home. It is not fair to you, it is not fair to your family, it is not fair to your child.

PP, it's actually based in science.

"But new research shows that picky eating does matter in ways that go beyond concerns around obesity or malnourishment. A study conducted by Duke University’s Center for Eating Disorders and published in the fall found that even moderately selective eaters were more likely to show symptoms of depression, social anxiety, or ADHD than those kids who weren’t picky eaters. Severely selective eaters were more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with depression or social anxiety. Many adults with eating-related issues, meanwhile, reported being picky eaters as children..."

Picky eaters are born not made:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2016/02/24/are-picky-eaters-born-made/7mfRUVteAcMLrO2oTmTeJM/story.html

Again, a disease of affluence. No picky eaters in Malawi. Calm down.

Well kids in Malawi will have a better shot if they can survive birth and avoid contracting HIV. Depression, anxiety, ADHD are disorders of the brain just as complications in childbirth or HIV affect the body. All of these things exist in every county just to different degrees.

Sorry to say, ADHD is a also a form of affluenza. I taught in a school in Tanzania for 2 years working at a NGO. There was not ONE single child, not ONE that did not pay attention and behave in class. They were so eager to learn, thry would hang onto my every word. Many of them walked miles (like 10+) to get to school. Our school served lunch, which was critical. The kids HAPPILY ate what was in front of them. Thr staple was a type of porridge made from flour and beans and a type of corn.

If your child is picky, then it's because of your parenting an the excessive options you give them. It's not your kid. It's you.

I have no idea why none of the kids had ADD or even behavior problems of any sort in Tanzania and then I come back to the US and we're got a quarter of the kids a hot mess. I do know for sure that kids and parents take school for granted here and don't treat it with the same amount of respect that people do when school is a privilege. I suppose food is so abundant and given the choice of a daily buffet of chicken nuggets, pizza, and hotdogs, they'll demand that instead.

The thought of a child in tanzania demanding cereal and ice cream for dinner, or really many ANY demands when it comes to food is laughable.

Zero fucks poster has their parenting game on point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have an underweight child who needs more calories. Why in the world would you deny him a bowl of cereal or ice cream?

Signed, mom a child beneath the growth chart, and you bet she gets cereal and ice cream.

I agree! Cereal and ice cream are healthy foods, full or "real ingredients" (depending on the brand and style). Feed your child!

But if these are displacing foods with actual nutritional value (only some cereal is any good for you) then it is not healthy and it will not help your kid get onto the growth chart.

Signed, mother with a skinny kid telling you things I learned from his nutritionist when he fell off the growth chart.

Bosh. Calories are calories, and when you have a seriously underweight child -- I'm not talking about a picky eater or a small child -- you pack in fat and calorie dense foods over fiber and "nutrtionally correct" foods -- that's what MY NUTRITIONIST said. Super fatted ice cream (fortified milkshake) is the number one recommended food for people who are seriously underweight -- not chicken and broccoli.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have an underweight child who needs more calories. Why in the world would you deny him a bowl of cereal or ice cream?

Signed, mom a child beneath the growth chart, and you bet she gets cereal and ice cream.

And diabetes one day. Good job!

You owe an apology to every diabetic. Cereal and ice cream do not cause diabetes. You have seriously disordered thinking about food. And hateful thinking about disabilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have an underweight child who needs more calories. Why in the world would you deny him a bowl of cereal or ice cream?

Signed, mom a child beneath the growth chart, and you bet she gets cereal and ice cream.

And diabetes one day. Good job!

You owe an apology to every diabetic. Cereal and ice cream do not cause diabetes. You have seriously disordered thinking about food. And hateful thinking about disabilities.

NP. What you eat and how you live matters. A lot. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I doubt the first poster's child is as much of an outlier as you think. I suspect a lot of "picky eating" is actual food/texture aversion, and so people focus on the wrong aspect ("the child is being defiant," or "the child is being stubborn"), and the problem really isn't a battle of wills, but a need to help condition the child to new food textures/tastes. "

Sweet Jesus - I don't know that I've ever seen a more ridiculous statement in my life. You think the kid who lives in a trailer has "texture aversion". It is a privilege to refuse foods. Only people who have too much of it do it. Tell your child to eat it or not. Do not, I repeat DO NOT indulge this nonsense and all your child to control your home. It is not fair to you, it is not fair to your family, it is not fair to your child.

PP, it's actually based in science.

"But new research shows that picky eating does matter in ways that go beyond concerns around obesity or malnourishment. A study conducted by Duke University’s Center for Eating Disorders and published in the fall found that even moderately selective eaters were more likely to show symptoms of depression, social anxiety, or ADHD than those kids who weren’t picky eaters. Severely selective eaters were more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with depression or social anxiety. Many adults with eating-related issues, meanwhile, reported being picky eaters as children..."

Picky eaters are born not made:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2016/02/24/are-picky-eaters-born-made/7mfRUVteAcMLrO2oTmTeJM/story.html

Again, a disease of affluence. No picky eaters in Malawi. Calm down.

Well kids in Malawi will have a better shot if they can survive birth and avoid contracting HIV. Depression, anxiety, ADHD are disorders of the brain just as complications in childbirth or HIV affect the body. All of these things exist in every county just to different degrees.

Sorry to say, ADHD is a also a form of affluenza. I taught in a school in Tanzania for 2 years working at a NGO. There was not ONE single child, not ONE that did not pay attention and behave in class. They were so eager to learn, thry would hang onto my every word. Many of them walked miles (like 10+) to get to school. Our school served lunch, which was critical. The kids HAPPILY ate what was in front of them. Thr staple was a type of porridge made from flour and beans and a type of corn.

If your child is picky, then it's because of your parenting an the excessive options you give them. It's not your kid. It's you.

I have no idea why none of the kids had ADD or even behavior problems of any sort in Tanzania and then I come back to the US and we're got a quarter of the kids a hot mess. I do know for sure that kids and parents take school for granted here and don't treat it with the same amount of respect that people do when school is a privilege. I suppose food is so abundant and given the choice of a daily buffet of chicken nuggets, pizza, and hotdogs, they'll demand that instead.

The thought of a child in tanzania demanding cereal and ice cream for dinner, or really many ANY demands when it comes to food is laughable.

Zero fucks poster has their parenting game on point.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I doubt the first poster's child is as much of an outlier as you think. I suspect a lot of "picky eating" is actual food/texture aversion, and so people focus on the wrong aspect ("the child is being defiant," or "the child is being stubborn"), and the problem really isn't a battle of wills, but a need to help condition the child to new food textures/tastes. "

Sweet Jesus - I don't know that I've ever seen a more ridiculous statement in my life. You think the kid who lives in a trailer has "texture aversion". It is a privilege to refuse foods. Only people who have too much of it do it. Tell your child to eat it or not. Do not, I repeat DO NOT indulge this nonsense and all your child to control your home. It is not fair to you, it is not fair to your family, it is not fair to your child.

PP, it's actually based in science.

"But new research shows that picky eating does matter in ways that go beyond concerns around obesity or malnourishment. A study conducted by Duke University’s Center for Eating Disorders and published in the fall found that even moderately selective eaters were more likely to show symptoms of depression, social anxiety, or ADHD than those kids who weren’t picky eaters. Severely selective eaters were more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with depression or social anxiety. Many adults with eating-related issues, meanwhile, reported being picky eaters as children..."

Picky eaters are born not made:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2016/02/24/are-picky-eaters-born-made/7mfRUVteAcMLrO2oTmTeJM/story.html

Again, a disease of affluence. No picky eaters in Malawi. Calm down.

Well kids in Malawi will have a better shot if they can survive birth and avoid contracting HIV. Depression, anxiety, ADHD are disorders of the brain just as complications in childbirth or HIV affect the body. All of these things exist in every county just to different degrees.

There is no mother on Malawi Urban Moms typing "My Ethan says he will only eat things that are brown and yellow. So that means we are pretty much stuck with rice and peppers. Any tips on how to get him to eat goat?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have an underweight child who needs more calories. Why in the world would you deny him a bowl of cereal or ice cream?

Signed, mom a child beneath the growth chart, and you bet she gets cereal and ice cream.

And diabetes one day. Good job!

You owe an apology to every diabetic. Cereal and ice cream do not cause diabetes. You have seriously disordered thinking about food. And hateful thinking about disabilities.

NP. What you eat and how you live matters. A lot. Sorry.

Of course it does. What does that have to do with cereal and ice cream?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I doubt the first poster's child is as much of an outlier as you think. I suspect a lot of "picky eating" is actual food/texture aversion, and so people focus on the wrong aspect ("the child is being defiant," or "the child is being stubborn"), and the problem really isn't a battle of wills, but a need to help condition the child to new food textures/tastes. "

Sweet Jesus - I don't know that I've ever seen a more ridiculous statement in my life. You think the kid who lives in a trailer has "texture aversion". It is a privilege to refuse foods. Only people who have too much of it do it. Tell your child to eat it or not. Do not, I repeat DO NOT indulge this nonsense and all your child to control your home. It is not fair to you, it is not fair to your family, it is not fair to your child.

PP, it's actually based in science.

"But new research shows that picky eating does matter in ways that go beyond concerns around obesity or malnourishment. A study conducted by Duke University’s Center for Eating Disorders and published in the fall found that even moderately selective eaters were more likely to show symptoms of depression, social anxiety, or ADHD than those kids who weren’t picky eaters. Severely selective eaters were more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with depression or social anxiety. Many adults with eating-related issues, meanwhile, reported being picky eaters as children..."

Picky eaters are born not made:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2016/02/24/are-picky-eaters-born-made/7mfRUVteAcMLrO2oTmTeJM/story.html

Again, a disease of affluence. No picky eaters in Malawi. Calm down.

Well kids in Malawi will have a better shot if they can survive birth and avoid contracting HIV. Depression, anxiety, ADHD are disorders of the brain just as complications in childbirth or HIV affect the body. All of these things exist in every county just to different degrees.

Sorry to say, ADHD is a also a form of affluenza. I taught in a school in Tanzania for 2 years working at a NGO. There was not ONE single child, not ONE that did not pay attention and behave in class. They were so eager to learn, thry would hang onto my every word. Many of them walked miles (like 10+) to get to school. Our school served lunch, which was critical. The kids HAPPILY ate what was in front of them. Thr staple was a type of porridge made from flour and beans and a type of corn.

If your child is picky, then it's because of your parenting an the excessive options you give them. It's not your kid. It's you.

I have no idea why none of the kids had ADD or even behavior problems of any sort in Tanzania and then I come back to the US and we're got a quarter of the kids a hot mess. I do know for sure that kids and parents take school for granted here and don't treat it with the same amount of respect that people do when school is a privilege. I suppose food is so abundant and given the choice of a daily buffet of chicken nuggets, pizza, and hotdogs, they'll demand that instead.

The thought of a child in tanzania demanding cereal and ice cream for dinner, or really many ANY demands when it comes to food is laughable.

Zero fucks poster has their parenting game on point.

So ADD is imaginary - what about food allergies, not a lot of those in Tanzania either, I would guess, are they also imagined? Even if I agree with your point about parental behavior influencing picky eating, you have completely undermined your points with this line of argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I doubt the first poster's child is as much of an outlier as you think. I suspect a lot of "picky eating" is actual food/texture aversion, and so people focus on the wrong aspect ("the child is being defiant," or "the child is being stubborn"), and the problem really isn't a battle of wills, but a need to help condition the child to new food textures/tastes. "

Sweet Jesus - I don't know that I've ever seen a more ridiculous statement in my life. You think the kid who lives in a trailer has "texture aversion". It is a privilege to refuse foods. Only people who have too much of it do it. Tell your child to eat it or not. Do not, I repeat DO NOT indulge this nonsense and all your child to control your home. It is not fair to you, it is not fair to your family, it is not fair to your child.

PP, it's actually based in science.

"But new research shows that picky eating does matter in ways that go beyond concerns around obesity or malnourishment. A study conducted by Duke University’s Center for Eating Disorders and published in the fall found that even moderately selective eaters were more likely to show symptoms of depression, social anxiety, or ADHD than those kids who weren’t picky eaters. Severely selective eaters were more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with depression or social anxiety. Many adults with eating-related issues, meanwhile, reported being picky eaters as children..."

Picky eaters are born not made:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2016/02/24/are-picky-eaters-born-made/7mfRUVteAcMLrO2oTmTeJM/story.html

Again, a disease of affluence. No picky eaters in Malawi. Calm down.

Well kids in Malawi will have a better shot if they can survive birth and avoid contracting HIV. Depression, anxiety, ADHD are disorders of the brain just as complications in childbirth or HIV affect the body. All of these things exist in every county just to different degrees.

Sorry to say, ADHD is a also a form of affluenza. I taught in a school in Tanzania for 2 years working at a NGO. There was not ONE single child, not ONE that did not pay attention and behave in class. They were so eager to learn, thry would hang onto my every word. Many of them walked miles (like 10+) to get to school. Our school served lunch, which was critical. The kids HAPPILY ate what was in front of them. Thr staple was a type of porridge made from flour and beans and a type of corn.

If your child is picky, then it's because of your parenting an the excessive options you give them. It's not your kid. It's you.

I have no idea why none of the kids had ADD or even behavior problems of any sort in Tanzania and then I come back to the US and we're got a quarter of the kids a hot mess. I do know for sure that kids and parents take school for granted here and don't treat it with the same amount of respect that people do when school is a privilege. I suppose food is so abundant and given the choice of a daily buffet of chicken nuggets, pizza, and hotdogs, they'll demand that instead.

The thought of a child in tanzania demanding cereal and ice cream for dinner, or really many ANY demands when it comes to food is laughable.

Zero fucks poster has their parenting game on point.

So ADD is imaginary - what about food allergies, not a lot of those in Tanzania either, I would guess, are they also imagined? Even if I agree with your point about parental behavior influencing picky eating, you have completely undermined your points with this line of argument.

I don't know if it is imaginary or not. I had a class of NINETY children that spanned an age range from 5-12 years old and not one had behavior problems and all sat in their chairs and listened. How else do you think I wrangled that many children with one teacher assistant? The parents had an EXPECTATION that their chilsren would value the great privilege they had to go to school. Its a first world mindset to not be grateful and therefore not value what we have. American kids are entitled, their parents are entitled and it's a nation or brats. We have a great nation and I love it here, but make no mistake, we are crass, obnoxious, and take no responsibility for our actions in our homes or in our world for that matter (as this thread demonstrates).

And now kids didn't have allergies, you know why??? Because they are not exposed to a huge range of food choices. That's the point. Get it? No, every single one of those kids ate their food without an allergic reaction. There was no nut free table. I brought a huge amount of candy with me and most all of them had never even tasted candy in their entire lives, let alone make demands for Lucky Charms and Strawberry ice cream for dinner and they were all skinny and some walked 24 miles a day round trip through the bush to school without mom and dad escorting them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I doubt the first poster's child is as much of an outlier as you think. I suspect a lot of "picky eating" is actual food/texture aversion, and so people focus on the wrong aspect ("the child is being defiant," or "the child is being stubborn"), and the problem really isn't a battle of wills, but a need to help condition the child to new food textures/tastes. "

Sweet Jesus - I don't know that I've ever seen a more ridiculous statement in my life. You think the kid who lives in a trailer has "texture aversion". It is a privilege to refuse foods. Only people who have too much of it do it. Tell your child to eat it or not. Do not, I repeat DO NOT indulge this nonsense and all your child to control your home. It is not fair to you, it is not fair to your family, it is not fair to your child.

PP, it's actually based in science.

"But new research shows that picky eating does matter in ways that go beyond concerns around obesity or malnourishment. A study conducted by Duke University’s Center for Eating Disorders and published in the fall found that even moderately selective eaters were more likely to show symptoms of depression, social anxiety, or ADHD than those kids who weren’t picky eaters. Severely selective eaters were more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with depression or social anxiety. Many adults with eating-related issues, meanwhile, reported being picky eaters as children..."

Picky eaters are born not made:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2016/02/24/are-picky-eaters-born-made/7mfRUVteAcMLrO2oTmTeJM/story.html

Again, a disease of affluence. No picky eaters in Malawi. Calm down.

Well kids in Malawi will have a better shot if they can survive birth and avoid contracting HIV. Depression, anxiety, ADHD are disorders of the brain just as complications in childbirth or HIV affect the body. All of these things exist in every county just to different degrees.

Sorry to say, ADHD is a also a form of affluenza. I taught in a school in Tanzania for 2 years working at a NGO. There was not ONE single child, not ONE that did not pay attention and behave in class. They were so eager to learn, thry would hang onto my every word. Many of them walked miles (like 10+) to get to school. Our school served lunch, which was critical. The kids HAPPILY ate what was in front of them. Thr staple was a type of porridge made from flour and beans and a type of corn.

If your child is picky, then it's because of your parenting an the excessive options you give them. It's not your kid. It's you.

I have no idea why none of the kids had ADD or even behavior problems of any sort in Tanzania and then I come back to the US and we're got a quarter of the kids a hot mess. I do know for sure that kids and parents take school for granted here and don't treat it with the same amount of respect that people do when school is a privilege. I suppose food is so abundant and given the choice of a daily buffet of chicken nuggets, pizza, and hotdogs, they'll demand that instead.

The thought of a child in tanzania demanding cereal and ice cream for dinner, or really many ANY demands when it comes to food is laughable.

Zero fucks poster has their parenting game on point.

So ADD is imaginary - what about food allergies, not a lot of those in Tanzania either, I would guess, are they also imagined? Even if I agree with your point about parental behavior influencing picky eating, you have completely undermined your points with this line of argument.

I'm a Np. ADD isn't imaginary, but those kids in Malawi probably got up at the crack of dawn to help make breakfast, then walked 5 miles to school. They didn't have the pent up energy of kids these days who wake up, may have a 5 minute chore in the morning, then ride a bus to sit 6 hours a day. I bet those kids climb trees and get very dirty and don't have nightly baths. All that dirt builds up the immune system, which helps prevent allergies. We live in a too clean country, our body's immune system needs something to do, hence allergies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have an underweight child who needs more calories. Why in the world would you deny him a bowl of cereal or ice cream?

Signed, mom a child beneath the growth chart, and you bet she gets cereal and ice cream.

And diabetes one day. Good job!

I just got back from my kid's Make-A-Wish trip. At the village where the wish kids and families are housed near Disney, ice cream is available 24/7. Kids can have it for breakfast if they want. Strangely, there's no preposterous concern about diabetes. Just about loading calories into underweight kids.

Listen to yourself. You sound so stupid, it hurts.

[Anonymous]

In regards to allergies. I know a mom who never fed her son peanuts, older mom because she had a "hunch" he had allergies to it.... And to loads other things, like gluten, milk, berries... And at tender age of four after diet of no gluten, no peanuts, no milk, she had him tested and guess what? He tested positive to peanut allergy! Well, she is as proud as a peacock for her mothering skills. He didn't test positive to other things, but of course Dr was wrong, she said, Dr said they can't tell because kid had no milk and other things in his system so tests will be inaccurate, so she then decided to go see a "food sensitivity" Dr who confirmed her suspicions. Kid does have allergies to gluten, milk, even soy now, so almond milk is a must. She goes around the school all day long chasing this 8 year old to stop him from being exposed to other people's food. She is divorced now, obviously. Now, you tell me who is crazy here, Malawi and Tanzania people or these US people?

[Anonymous]

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Sorry to say, ADHD is a also a form of affluenza. I taught in a school in Tanzania for 2 years working at a NGO. There was not ONE single child, not ONE that did not pay attention and behave in class. They were so eager to learn, thry would hang onto my every word. Many of them walked miles (like 10+) to get to school. Our school served lunch, which was critical. The kids HAPPILY ate what was in front of them. The staple was a type of porridge made from flour and beans and a type of corn.

So basically, food that is typical of what severe picky eaters like -- a cereal, kind of mushy, not a lot of texture, and consistent day in and day out. This is a safe food, and lots of kids that are severe selective eaters also have a similar safe food -- for my kid it was Shredded Oats and Milk.

Kids in Malawi and Tanzania most certainly DO die of failure to thrive, and they DO refuse to eat unknown or unfamiliar foods. You might not have seen those kids because they weren't the ones coming to school... in fact their families probably didn't have the resources to get them to age 4. If a child can't or won't eat the staple food available to your family... what choice do you have?

Also, I'm not familiar with Tanzana, but teach immigrant children from other developing countries. Kids who have difficulty controlling themselves just aren't sent to school. They are not allowed. They are expelled quickly. Kids with any kind of learning disability are encouraged to drop out of school.

[Anonymous]

Will starving, malnourished children in Bangladesh accept nutrition in the form of Plumpy'nut, a peanut based nutritional supplement that has been widely accepted in African countries and hailed as a miracle food?

Why, no.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4463117/

Eventually many kids came around -- but 5% never did accept it. Meaning they would "prefer to starve" than eat what they don't like. I'd say that's about the general percentage for "Severe Picky Eaters" -- 5% or less of the childhood population.

My son would have been one of those kids. If his choice was Plumpy'Nut or die (or some other food he didn't like) ... I expect he would die, unless I got him to a hospital for tube feeding.

I imagine the fatality rate of those 5% severe picky eaters in Bangladesh, failing medical care, is much higher than that for kids who are able to eat a wider variety of foods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have an underweight child who needs more calories. Why in the world would you deny him a bowl of cereal or ice cream?

Signed, mom a child beneath the growth chart, and you bet she gets cereal and ice cream.

I agree! Cereal and ice cream are healthy foods, full or "real ingredients" (depending on the brand and style). Feed your child!

But if these are displacing foods with actual nutritional value (only some cereal is any good for you) then it is not healthy and it will not help your kid get onto the growth chart.

Signed, mother with a skinny kid telling you things I learned from his nutritionist when he fell off the growth chart.

Bosh. Calories are calories, and when you have a seriously underweight child -- I'm not talking about a picky eater or a small child -- you pack in fat and calorie dense foods over fiber and "nutrtionally correct" foods -- that's what MY NUTRITIONIST said. Super fatted ice cream (fortified milkshake) is the number one recommended food for people who are seriously underweight -- not chicken and broccoli.

ok. you win. your child is skinnier, and you have to walk to the doctor's office up hill, both ways.