Troubles at GDS high school?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]Frankly, the school's "mission" and core values are exposed as the shams they are by these episodes.[/quote]

What episodes? Kids are kids, and GDS kids (ALL of them) are especially privileged. This thread is full of ado about nothing.

[Anonymous]

So not only do I have to teach my African American children what the law requires when dealing with the police, I must also teach them what their rights are when dealing with school administrators. Just lovely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So not only do I have to teach my African American children what the law requires when dealing with the police, I must also teach them what their rights are when dealing with school administrators. Just lovely.

Why don't you send your kids to your local DCPS school and stop bitching around?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So not only do I have to teach my African American children what the law requires when dealing with the police, I must also teach them what their rights are when dealing with school administrators. Just lovely.

Why don't you send your kids to your local DCPS school and stop bitching around?

I am not affiliated with GDS in any way, but wow, who peed in your cereal this morning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So not only do I have to teach my African American children what the law requires when dealing with the police, I must also teach them what their rights are when dealing with school administrators. Just lovely.

Why don't you send your kids to your local DCPS school and stop bitching around?

You know why. Moreover, the school has a stated mission that should be honored and followed. The answer is not for all the African American kids to leave. The school was started for African American and Jewish children. If you have a problem accommodating African American kids you should leave.

[Anonymous]

Whether a student's Biglaw parent can protect him from school discipline by importing standards for deprivation of liberty by the government to a private school.

Anonymous wrote:It's not about race; it's about due process. Whether the school can confiscate and download the contents of a (minor) student's cellphone without contacting the parent, whether it can pressure a minor to sign a written "apology" (again without the parent involved) that includes statements the student believes are false. Whether an investigation, once concluded, can be reopened. Whether the accused has the right to see evidence against him/her and have evidence in his/her own defense considered. What standard of proof will be used in contested cases. Whether there is an appeals process. Whether the school, lacking clear and consistent evidence sufficient to justify an expulsion, can ban a student from campus indefinitely. Really basic stuff like that.

It's important to disentangle these issues from any specific case. That's how process issues work -- we evaluate fairness by assuming an accused is innocent -- does a process like this give the accused a fair chance to disprove an allegation? Is this how you would want your private school to treat your child?

[Anonymous]

GDS explicitly holds itself out as a light unto all others on equality and respect for all races.

Anonymous wrote:Just seems like all this navel gazing is a waste of valuable educational time. There are jerks in the world, they are everywhere. To be shocked that GDS or Bullis or others have racists is a bit ridiculous. They are everywhere, just like domestic abuse, drug/alcohol abuse, etc. Just accept that and get about life instead of wallowing in why it happened. It's never going away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So not only do I have to teach my African American children what the law requires when dealing with the police, I must also teach them what their rights are when dealing with school administrators. Just lovely.

we all have to do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So not only do I have to teach my African American children what the law requires when dealing with the police, I must also teach them what their rights are when dealing with school administrators. Just lovely.

Why don't you send your kids to your local DCPS school and stop bitching around?

That would be kind of hard since I don't live in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So not only do I have to teach my African American children what the law requires when dealing with the police, I must also teach them what their rights are when dealing with school administrators. Just lovely.

we all have to do that.

Yeah not really. White parents most certainly don't have to teach their children the "special rules for Black people" when dealing with the police. But let me guess, you don't believe there are any...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not about race; it's about due process. Whether the school can confiscate and download the contents of a (minor) student's cellphone without contacting the parent, whether it can pressure a minor to sign a written "apology" (again without the parent involved) that includes statements the student believes are false. Whether an investigation, once concluded, can be reopened. Whether the accused has the right to see evidence against him/her and have evidence in his/her own defense considered. What standard of proof will be used in contested cases. Whether there is an appeals process. Whether the school, lacking clear and consistent evidence sufficient to justify an expulsion, can ban a student from campus indefinitely. Really basic stuff like that.

It's important to disentangle these issues from any specific case. That's how process issues work -- we evaluate fairness by assuming an accused is innocent -- does a process like this give the accused a fair chance to disprove an allegation? Is this how you would want your private school to treat your child?

It appears there is a specific incident involving specific students,hence the difficulty in disentangling. Some parents were very upset with the outcome and this has fueled the desire by some members of the community to look more closely at issues of race. And class. It might be about due process, but as a parent, it appears to be about race. Someone wrote a racial slur. Race, A kid was hazed. Not race but it was introduced nonetheless. The previous year's issue, at the center of this "due process" problem, again not a race issue but the issue was introduced. If there are issues of due process, I am all for addressing them. However, that is being lost in the process here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So not only do I have to teach my African American children what the law requires when dealing with the police, I must also teach them what their rights are when dealing with school administrators. Just lovely.

we all have to do that.

+1. It's parenting 101, and I see no particular reason why AAs should be exempted from it.

[Anonymous]

Here is what I tell them about dealings with the police.

* In any interaction with police - they have all the power. Recognize that.

* Be exceedingly polite. Respond to every request. Cooperate fully with an attitude that in no way challenges their authority.

* Your goal is to do everything you can to end your interaction as quickly as possible i.e. don't give them excuses to put you in deeper water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is what I tell them about dealings with the police.

* In any interaction with police - they have all the power. Recognize that.

* Be exceedingly polite. Respond to every request. Cooperate fully with an attitude that in no way challenges their authority.

* Your goal is to do everything you can to end your interaction as quickly as possible i.e. don't give them excuses to put you in deeper water.

And these helpful tips still do not mean they will get treated with respect if they are Black. By all means continue to live in your bubble and think it's just that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is what I tell them about dealings with the police.

* In any interaction with police - they have all the power. Recognize that.

* Be exceedingly polite. Respond to every request. Cooperate fully with an attitude that in no way challenges their authority.

* Your goal is to do everything you can to end your interaction as quickly as possible i.e. don't give them excuses to put you in deeper water.

And these helpful tips still do not mean they will get treated with respect if they are Black. By all means continue to live in your bubble and think it's just that simple.

and we are making it all about the "r" word