Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid

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I didn't need to prep to get good scores. I prepped to get great scores and admitted to schools with low acceptance rates. When you kid gets into an Ivy for undergrad and grad school and marries someone who does the same. Call me.

This seems like such an awesome summation your personality, you should add it to your signature line.

Wow, are we in the 1950s?

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Anonymous wrote:You shouldn't. We didn't prep but if we did I wouldn't feel guilty. All these people who complain about test prep, talk to them when their kids get ready to take the SAT or ACT and I dare them to suggest no PSAT was taken and no prep courses were paid for.

AAP wasn't important enough for us to prep for so we didn't. 2 of my kids got in and 1 is too young, but had it been important to us, we would have prepped with no guilt. I can say with 100% certainty when the time comes we WILL do SAT prep for every single child. I had SAT prep, as did my husband. We got great scores and both went to Brown. I went on to get my JD from Harvard (with LSAT prep) and my DH got his MBA from Wharton at UPenn (he did GMAT prep). No guilt. No shame.

But a pathological need to trot out names of schools you attended as opposed to what you've contributed in life

My kid didn't prep for the PSAT or the SAT. He was a NMSF. So just because you needed to prep to get good scores, don't assume that everyone does.

I didn't need to prep to get good scores. I prepped to get great scores and admitted to schools with low acceptance rates. When yourkid gets into an Ivy for undergrad and grad school and marries someone who does the same. Call me.

I don't give a damn....call me when you get invited to sweden.

Been to Sweden. It was grand!

Signed Ivy

This thread is pathetic. Step back and look at yourselves, people. All this bragging and competing on an anonymous mom forum - it's vulgar and pointless.

Agree with PP!

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What does an invitation to Sweden have to do with anything? Serious question from a non American....???

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Anonymous wrote:What does an invitation to Sweden have to do with anything? Serious question from a non American....???

It's a reference for her to call when she gets a Nobel Prize

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Anonymous wrote:What does an invitation to Sweden have to do with anything? Serious question from a non American....???

It's a reference for her to call when she gets a Nobel Prize

Ah! Thanks pp. Is that a common saying?

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no -- not many get the call. More prestigious than HYP

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Some races are good in sports while some are good in education..We need to accept the fact that everyone is different

Is this really what you meant to say? That people are better or worse at different skills because of their race?

OP, can you comment on this?

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Some races are good in sports while some are good in education..We need to accept the fact that everyone is different

Is this really what you meant to say? That people are better or worse at different skills because of their race?

OP, can you comment on this?

Have you never watched a track meet or college/NBA basketball?

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Anonymous wrote:AAP has enough space for everyone who qualifies, so what some other families do has no bearing on your child.

Sure it does. The teacher has had to give up trying to do much that requires real thinking and going more into depth now in my child's AAP center classroom, because half the class is the product of prepping and can't actually think at the level that a gifted program should bring out in gifted children. Oh but they can study and grind their little worker bee hearts out. They belong in gen ed, and gen ed should be higher quality. Ultimately I don't blame anyone for clawing and cheating their way out of the teach-to-the-lowest-ability gen ed mindset. Just don't kid yourself that it is without consequences.

And that's why Asian kids are admitted at lower rates to elite schools than their scores would suggest. They're hard workers, but they aren't creative or innovative thinkers. They aren't as smart IQ-wise as the white kids who have the same scores. Their scores overestimate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true. I think this is something white people tell themselves to feel better.

Basically. I was an Indian kid who was pushed in school and sports. Also got to travel the world and make all sorts of friends. Dated. Partied. Was not a robot. Had ideal childhood. Liberal arts and science degrees. Am doctor and aspiring writer/bodybuilder. My little brother now nanotech engineer/lawyer. So go on with more ridiculous stereotypes.

Kids are smart enough to be pushed without ruining their childhoods and I don't understand why people think the two are mutually exclusive.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP has enough space for everyone who qualifies, so what some other families do has no bearing on your child.

Sure it does. The teacher has had to give up trying to do much that requires real thinking and going more into depth now in my child's AAP center classroom, because half the class is the product of prepping and can't actually think at the level that a gifted program should bring out in gifted children. Oh but they can study and grind their little worker bee hearts out. They belong in gen ed, and gen ed should be higher quality. Ultimately I don't blame anyone for clawing and cheating their way out of the teach-to-the-lowest-ability gen ed mindset. Just don't kid yourself that it is without consequences.

And that's why Asian kids are admitted at lower rates to elite schools than their scores would suggest. They're hard workers, but they aren't creative or innovative thinkers. They aren't as smart IQ-wise as the white kids who have the same scores. Their scores overestimate their abilities.

SOURCE please? Or just pulling facts out of your ass?

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Asian students work harder and that has more effect on their academic success than cognitive ability.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/05/scienceshot-why-asian-american-students-outperform-their-white-peers

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/23/8416.full

http://www.psc.isr.umich.edu/pubs/pdf/rr14-827.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares?

In 20 years you'll be writing a post about "why should I feel guilty my kids hate their lives and never talk to me? I pushed them to be doctors because it's MY CULTURE!"

Signed, married to a successful Asian man who hates his mother

I think many women secretly wished their husband hate their mother to decrease interaction with the mother in laws! I know I am!

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Anonymous wrote:AAP has enough space for everyone who qualifies, so what some other families do has no bearing on your child.

Sure it does. The teacher has had to give up trying to do much that requires real thinking and going more into depth now in my child's AAP center classroom, because half the class is the product of prepping and can't actually think at the level that a gifted program should bring out in gifted children. Oh but they can study and grind their little worker bee hearts out. They belong in gen ed, and gen ed should be higher quality. Ultimately I don't blame anyone for clawing and cheating their way out of the teach-to-the-lowest-ability gen ed mindset. Just don't kid yourself that it is without consequences.

And that's why Asian kids are admitted at lower rates to elite schools than their scores would suggest. They're hard workers, but they aren't creative or innovative thinkers. They aren't as smart IQ-wise as the white kids who have the same scores. Their scores overestimate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true. I think this is something white people tell themselves to feel better.

Basically. I was an Indian kid who was pushed in school and sports. Also got to travel the world and make all sorts of friends. Dated. Partied. Was not a robot. Had ideal childhood. Liberal arts and science degrees. Am doctor and aspiring writer/bodybuilder. My little brother now nanotech engineer/lawyer. So go on with more ridiculous stereotypes.

Kids are smart enough to be pushed without ruining their childhoods and I don't understand why people think the two are mutually exclusive.

Some kids are okay with the push, some kids will resent the push. Good for you that the push did not make you resentful enough to hate your mother. Why? Because the direction where your mother pushed was the same direction as your interests. You are Indian. You are a doctor. That is quite a common occurrence, hence the stereotypes. But if you weren't a doctor and only made your living by being a professional body builder, then I will wonder if your mother considered you successful after she pushed you in school.

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No need to feel guilty. The best education possible is the best gift you can give a kid.