Rape Victim: Hilary put me through Hell

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the audio. Lovely. I like when she laughs about the lie detector test. Also gotta love the fake accent. She obviously thinks this whole thing is funny. That poor child.


http://freebeacon.com/politics/audio-hillary-clinton-speaks-of-defense-of-child-rapist-in-newly-unearthed-tapes/

I just listened to that entire recording. Clinton was able to get the case plea bargained because the State mishandled the evidence. Based on what is on the tape, the State threw away the evidence. I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I think Clinton herself would be subject to malpractice charges if she hadn't pursued that in defense of her client.

That is a different point. I am not criticizing a defense attorney for doing her job. It is her skewering of the young girl and her gleeful remarks. This is the antithesis of feminism.

There was no evidence of Clinton "skewering" the girl on the tape. What did I miss?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the audio. Lovely. I like when she laughs about the lie detector test. Also gotta love the fake accent. She obviously thinks this whole thing is funny. That poor child.


http://freebeacon.com/politics/audio-hillary-clinton-speaks-of-defense-of-child-rapist-in-newly-unearthed-tapes/

I just listened to that entire recording. Clinton was able to get the case plea bargained because the State mishandled the evidence. Based on what is on the tape, the State threw away the evidence. I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I think Clinton herself would be subject to malpractice charges if she hadn't pursued that in defense of her client.

That is a different point. I am not criticizing a defense attorney for doing her job. It is her skewering of the young girl and her gleeful remarks. This is the antithesis of feminism.

There was no evidence of Clinton "skewering" the girl on the tape. What did I miss?

It is in the affidavit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilary Clinton spoke with a Southern drawl on the tapes? She moved to the South in 1975 when she was already an adult. This doesn't seem a credible assessment of what is on the tapes. Sounds more like she was a lawyer who had a legal duty to defend her client, one who was assigned to her through her firm's pro bono agreement, not one she sought out.

are you surprised Hillary drags out her Southern drawl when it's convenient? She does it quite frequently.

Oh please. Of all the reasons to attack her. I slip into it too if I'm speaking with people from the south. It happens organically. Get over it.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the audio. Lovely. I like when she laughs about the lie detector test. Also gotta love the fake accent. She obviously thinks this whole thing is funny. That poor child.


http://freebeacon.com/politics/audio-hillary-clinton-speaks-of-defense-of-child-rapist-in-newly-unearthed-tapes/

I just listened to that entire recording. Clinton was able to get the case plea bargained because the State mishandled the evidence. Based on what is on the tape, the State threw away the evidence. I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I think Clinton herself would be subject to malpractice charges if she hadn't pursued that in defense of her client.

That is a different point. I am not criticizing a defense attorney for doing her job. It is her skewering of the young girl and her gleeful remarks. This is the antithesis of feminism.

There was no evidence of Clinton "skewering" the girl on the tape. What did I miss?

It is in the affidavit.

There seems to be a lot of data out there and I don't really feel like going through it all. The affidavit shows that Clinton referred to a child psychologist who questioned the child's honesty. However, that line of discussion apparently never made it into court because of the loss of evidence was enough to get a plea bargain.

When I hear that someone was "skewered" I get the idea that the skewerer directly confronts the skewered. I don't get the idea that someone quoted someone else that the skewered person never saw. Do you have more evidence of the girl being "skewered"? If so, please link to it directly or provide very clear instructions as to how to find it.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the audio. Lovely. I like when she laughs about the lie detector test. Also gotta love the fake accent. She obviously thinks this whole thing is funny. That poor child.


http://freebeacon.com/politics/audio-hillary-clinton-speaks-of-defense-of-child-rapist-in-newly-unearthed-tapes/

I just listened to that entire recording. Clinton was able to get the case plea bargained because the State mishandled the evidence. Based on what is on the tape, the State threw away the evidence. I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I think Clinton herself would be subject to malpractice charges if she hadn't pursued that in defense of her client.

That is a different point. I am not criticizing a defense attorney for doing her job. It is her skewering of the young girl and her gleeful remarks. This is the antithesis of feminism.

There was no evidence of Clinton "skewering" the girl on the tape. What did I miss?

It is in the affidavit.

There seems to be a lot of data out there and I don't really feel like going through it all. The affidavit shows that Clinton referred to a child psychologist who questioned the child's honesty. However, that line of discussion apparently never made it into court because of the loss of evidence was enough to get a plea bargain.

When I hear that someone was "skewered" I get the idea that the skewerer directly confronts the skewered. I don't get the idea that someone quoted someone else that the skewered person never saw. Do you have more evidence of the girl being "skewered"? If so, please link to it directly or provide very clear instructions as to how to find it.

This is the quote I was referring to from the article. which links to the affidavit. If this quote is not included in the affidavit then I will rescind my "skewering" comment but I have no time to check the entire affidavit at the moment. As a feminist, I am not okay with these statements being made about a 12 year old rape victim. If you are okay with that, then we will have to agree to disagree.


“I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing,” Clinton, then named Hillary D. Rodham, wrote in the affidavit. “I have also been informed that she has in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body. Also that she exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the audio. Lovely. I like when she laughs about the lie detector test. Also gotta love the fake accent. She obviously thinks this whole thing is funny. That poor child.


http://freebeacon.com/politics/audio-hillary-clinton-speaks-of-defense-of-child-rapist-in-newly-unearthed-tapes/

I just listened to that entire recording. Clinton was able to get the case plea bargained because the State mishandled the evidence. Based on what is on the tape, the State threw away the evidence. I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I think Clinton herself would be subject to malpractice charges if she hadn't pursued that in defense of her client.

That is a different point. I am not criticizing a defense attorney for doing her job. It is her skewering of the young girl and her gleeful remarks. This is the antithesis of feminism.

There was no evidence of Clinton "skewering" the girl on the tape. What did I miss?

It is in the affidavit.

NP here. Wasn't the information in the affidavit based upon the investigation and opinion(s) from one of the experts, though? Not sure how a defense attorney raising those issues in an affidavit filed in the case is "skewering" anybody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She did her job, and did it well. I'm no fan of Clinton, but I am a huge supporter of defense lawyers, who are supposed to make sure that prosecutors really do prove their cases beyond a reasonable doubt.

+1000. People on here seem to have a gross misunderstanding of what criminal defense attorneys do. Even if Clinton actually knew her client was guilty, she still had a duty to zealously represent him.

People understand that. They also understand that, if in Hillary's shoes, they would rather quit than destroy a 12 year old rape victim.

[Anonymous]

Rape victim or groupie slut? Seems to me there needs to be some serious slut shaming.

[Anonymous]

It's like nobody watches law and order

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She did her job, and did it well. I'm no fan of Clinton, but I am a huge supporter of defense lawyers, who are supposed to make sure that prosecutors really do prove their cases beyond a reasonable doubt.

+1000. People on here seem to have a gross misunderstanding of what criminal defense attorneys do. Even if Clinton actually knew her client was guilty, she still had a duty to zealously represent him.

People understand that. They also understand that, if in Hillary's shoes, they would rather quit than destroy a 12 year old rape victim. [/quote]



I absolutely would quit before I would hurt a child. And in fact my own father quit criminal law when he got a racist murderer a $1 fine. That was the end of his criminal law career. Do the right thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilary Clinton spoke with a Southern drawl on the tapes? She moved to the South in 1975 when she was already an adult. This doesn't seem a credible assessment of what is on the tapes. Sounds more like she was a lawyer who had a legal duty to defend her client, one who was assigned to her through her firm's pro bono agreement, not one she sought out.

are you surprised Hillary drags out her Southern drawl when it's convenient? She does it quite frequently.

Oh please. Of all the reasons to attack her. I slip into it too if I'm speaking with people from the south. It happens organically. Get over it.

I'm sure it does. And when you visit California you talk like a Valley girl, and when you visit Boston, you talk like a Yahd Bahkah don't you?

Keep defending her.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She did her job, and did it well. I'm no fan of Clinton, but I am a huge supporter of defense lawyers, who are supposed to make sure that prosecutors really do prove their cases beyond a reasonable doubt.

+1000. People on here seem to have a gross misunderstanding of what criminal defense attorneys do. Even if Clinton actually knew her client was guilty, she still had a duty to zealously represent him.

People understand that. They also understand that, if in Hillary's shoes, they would rather quit than destroy a 12 year old rape victim.

Clinton didn't destroy a 12 year old rape victim. She got the case plea bargained because the State threw away the evidence. Frankly, I hadn't looked into this before and was just accepting the repeated claims that Clinton did something atrocious. My view is that none of the Clintons take prisoners and this would just be one more example. But, now that I've looked into it a bit, I see that the anti-Clinton case is very misleading. Clinton absolutely did nothing wrong in this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She did her job, and did it well. I'm no fan of Clinton, but I am a huge supporter of defense lawyers, who are supposed to make sure that prosecutors really do prove their cases beyond a reasonable doubt.

+1000. People on here seem to have a gross misunderstanding of what criminal defense attorneys do. Even if Clinton actually knew her client was guilty, she still had a duty to zealously represent him.

People understand that. They also understand that, if in Hillary's shoes, they would rather quit than destroy a 12 year old rape victim.

Our legal system wouldn't work if people who were accused of horrible crimes couldn't get an attorney to zealously represent them. Defense attorneys are needed, not just to defend the accused, but to keep prosecutors honest.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the audio. Lovely. I like when she laughs about the lie detector test. Also gotta love the fake accent. She obviously thinks this whole thing is funny. That poor child.


http://freebeacon.com/politics/audio-hillary-clinton-speaks-of-defense-of-child-rapist-in-newly-unearthed-tapes/

I just listened to that entire recording. Clinton was able to get the case plea bargained because the State mishandled the evidence. Based on what is on the tape, the State threw away the evidence. I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I think Clinton herself would be subject to malpractice charges if she hadn't pursued that in defense of her client.

That is a different point. I am not criticizing a defense attorney for doing her job. It is her skewering of the young girl and her gleeful remarks. This is the antithesis of feminism.

There was no evidence of Clinton "skewering" the girl on the tape. What did I miss?

It is in the affidavit.

NP here. Wasn't the information in the affidavit based upon the investigation and opinion(s) from one of the experts, though? Not sure how a defense attorney raising those issues in an affidavit filed in the case is "skewering" anybody.

Yes, this is exactly right. Clinton simply reported the findings of an expert. Moreover, none of that even made it into court. So, at best, Clinton could be accused of considering skewering a 12-year old, though I would still argue that reporting the findings of an expert is not "skewering". Nevertheless, the skewering never took place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She did her job, and did it well. I'm no fan of Clinton, but I am a huge supporter of defense lawyers, who are supposed to make sure that prosecutors really do prove their cases beyond a reasonable doubt.

+1000. People on here seem to have a gross misunderstanding of what criminal defense attorneys do. Even if Clinton actually knew her client was guilty, she still had a duty to zealously represent him.

People understand that. They also understand that, if in Hillary's shoes, they would rather quit than destroy a 12 year old rape victim. [/quote]



I absolutely would quit before I would hurt a child. And in fact my own father quit criminal law when he got a racist murderer a $1 fine. That was the end of his criminal law career. Do the right thing.

You must be very proud of your father. We need more people like him in this world.