$64,000 per refugee to relocate them to the US?

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Anonymous wrote:A shoddy relocation process is bad for us. It's that simple.

Except its not shoddy. The news is just stoking fear by claiming it is shoddy. No one knows what they're talking about. NO REFUGEE resettled here since 9/11 has committed an act of terror.

NONE.

Wasn't the shooter in CA a refugee?

No, they were an immigrant on a K-1 visa. Nothing to do with the refugee process at all. Generally less rigorous because K-1 applicants have someone in the US sponsoring them.

The shooter in the Paris police station definitely was a refugee that had previously been staying in a German refugee camp.

It is not in contention that terrorists are hiding within the refugees. What is in contention is whether we have an adequate screening process. We do, with over a decade of successful refugee processing to prove it.

The Tsarnaev brothers (for like the 150th time on this forum) were NOT refugees. They were the children of Asylum seekers. They were radicalized WHILE in America by relatives abroad. Unfortunately you can't screen a 5 year old for their possible potential future ability to be radicalized. White teenagers are being radicalized too! It is just an impressionable age.

I repeat. No refugee processed and resettled in the United States since 9/11 has committed any act of terror. This is a fact.

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Actually CNN did say they did come over recently as a Syrian refugee. I am positive.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually CNN did say they did come over recently as a Syrian refugee. I am positive.

If you can find the report, provide a link. I searched all over the CNN site and couldn't find such a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be THRILLED to allocate additional funds and programs to the homeless in the US to help them get back on their feet as well as help refugees. OP are you sure you want to raise taxes and add programs to help the homeless?

Absolutely! I want to give the $64,000 to pie homeless and to our vets that are homeless and poor!

There is a lot of funding for the homeless, especially in our area as well as vets. There are not a huge amount of vets that are truly homeless and most is due to mental health issues (and often they barely served any actual time) so the bigger issue (same for the homeless) is addressing the mental health issues. You can give someone a home, food, medical care but in less they are able to maintain it, they become homeless again. Its to as simple as throwing money to the situation. We've done that as a country and we still have the same issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be THRILLED to allocate additional funds and programs to the homeless in the US to help them get back on their feet as well as help refugees. OP are you sure you want to raise taxes and add programs to help the homeless?

Absolutely! I want to give the $64,000 to pie homeless and to our vets that are homeless and poor!

There is a lot of funding for the homeless, especially in our area as well as vets. There are not a huge amount of vets that are truly homeless and most is due to mental health issues (and often they barely served any actual time) so the bigger issue (same for the homeless) is addressing the mental health issues. You can give someone a home, food, medical care but in less they are able to maintain it, they become homeless again. Its to as simple as throwing money to the situation. We've done that as a country and we still have the same issues.

Lazy people throw money, not knowing how it's used. So wasteful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would be THRILLED to allocate additional funds and programs to the homeless in the US to help them get back on their feet as well as help refugees. OP are you sure you want to raise taxes and add programs to help the homeless?

Absolutely! I want to give the $64,000 to pie homeless and to our vets that are homeless and poor!

There is a lot of funding for the homeless, especially in our area as well as vets. There are not a huge amount of vets that are truly homeless and most is due to mental health issues (and often they barely served any actual time) so the bigger issue (same for the homeless) is addressing the mental health issues. You can give someone a home, food, medical care but in less they are able to maintain it, they become homeless again. Its to as simple as throwing money to the situation. We've done that as a country and we still have the same issues.

Lazy people throw money, not knowing how it's used. So wasteful.

Gee, Glenn Beck spent $10,000 per person to relocate Christians with his Nazarene fund and that was just to get them to a host country. Other organizations are providing financial and other support after they get there. I know this because Glenn Beck wrote about it on his site. So I guess Beck is wasteful and lazy, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else read this? I don't think this is fair for us to be able to come up with money to pay $64,000 per refugee to relocate them to the US when we have so many homeless families and Vets here already and so many poor people here already struggling to eat. Does anyone else agree with this?

http://freebeacon.com/issues/resettling-middle-eastern-refugees-costs-taxpayers-64370-per-refugee/

And crappy schools. The teachers walked out in Detroit due to mold and rats... Think what this money could do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would be THRILLED to allocate additional funds and programs to the homeless in the US to help them get back on their feet as well as help refugees. OP are you sure you want to raise taxes and add programs to help the homeless?

Absolutely! I want to give the $64,000 to pie homeless and to our vets that are homeless and poor!

There is a lot of funding for the homeless, especially in our area as well as vets. There are not a huge amount of vets that are truly homeless and most is due to mental health issues (and often they barely served any actual time) so the bigger issue (same for the homeless) is addressing the mental health issues. You can give someone a home, food, medical care but in less they are able to maintain it, they become homeless again. Its to as simple as throwing money to the situation. We've done that as a country and we still have the same issues.

Lazy people throw money, not knowing how it's used. So wasteful.

Gee, Glenn Beck spent $10,000 per person to relocate Christians with his Nazarene fund and that was just to get them to a host country. Other organizations are providing financial and other support after they get there. I know this because Glenn Beck wrote about it on his site. So I guess Beck is wasteful and lazy, too.

Sounds like a wise and generous investment in their safety. He didn't blindly "throw" money at them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would be THRILLED to allocate additional funds and programs to the homeless in the US to help them get back on their feet as well as help refugees. OP are you sure you want to raise taxes and add programs to help the homeless?

Absolutely! I want to give the $64,000 to pie homeless and to our vets that are homeless and poor!

There is a lot of funding for the homeless, especially in our area as well as vets. There are not a huge amount of vets that are truly homeless and most is due to mental health issues (and often they barely served any actual time) so the bigger issue (same for the homeless) is addressing the mental health issues. You can give someone a home, food, medical care but in less they are able to maintain it, they become homeless again. Its to as simple as throwing money to the situation. We've done that as a country and we still have the same issues.

Lazy people throw money, not knowing how it's used. So wasteful.

Gee, Glenn Beck spent $10,000 per person to relocate Christians with his Nazarene fund and that was just to get them to a host country. Other organizations are providing financial and other support after they get there. I know this because Glenn Beck wrote about it on his site. So I guess Beck is wasteful and lazy, too.

How generous of him only to rescue Christians who share his beliefs abandoning those who need it as he does not feel their religion is worthy. I could not care less that he donated some money to move folks without helping them after and long term...he just did it for bragging rights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be THRILLED to allocate additional funds and programs to the homeless in the US to help them get back on their feet as well as help refugees. OP are you sure you want to raise taxes and add programs to help the homeless?

Absolutely! I want to give the $64,000 to pie homeless and to our vets that are homeless and poor!

There is a lot of funding for the homeless, especially in our area as well as vets. There are not a huge amount of vets that are truly homeless and most is due to mental health issues (and often they barely served any actual time) so the bigger issue (same for the homeless) is addressing the mental health issues. You can give someone a home, food, medical care but in less they are able to maintain it, they become homeless again. Its to as simple as throwing money to the situation. We've done that as a country and we still have the same issues.

Lazy people throw money, not knowing how it's used. So wasteful.

Gee, Glenn Beck spent $10,000 per person to relocate Christians with his Nazarene fund and that was just to get them to a host country. Other organizations are providing financial and other support after they get there. I know this because Glenn Beck wrote about it on his site. So I guess Beck is wasteful and lazy, too.

Sounds like a wise and generous investment in their safety. He didn't blindly "throw" money at them.

it takes 25k just to screen and fly a single human being to another country? But it is wasteful to spend another 40k so they can get housing and fijdcsmd s job once there?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else read this? I don't think this is fair for us to be able to come up with money to pay $64,000 per refugee to relocate them to the US when we have so many homeless families and Vets here already and so many poor people here already struggling to eat. Does anyone else agree with this?

http://freebeacon.com/issues/resettling-middle-eastern-refugees-costs-taxpayers-64370-per-refugee/

And crappy schools. The teachers walked out in Detroit due to mold and rats... Think what this money could do.

Low income get food stamps, wic and more. There are tons of programs for vets. The better question is where is all the money the schools do get and why is it not being used properly.

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Anonymous wrote:Have some empathy that you or your family members could be in that situation and you'd want someone to help you? Our "homeless" and vets are far better taken care of than most. Our poor get food stamps and benefits - its the working that really need the help as they do not make enough to live on but too much for benefits. Yes, we need to do more to help in the US but that would mean major government overhauls to accomplish it and no one is willing to put the time or money into doing it properly. I'm all for bring some of the refugees over.

I do have empathy for the refugees and have contributed $ to help them. Have you? I feel we can help them best by getting their country back where they can live there peacefully. If we continue to take on helping everyone but our own, the US will decline even more and then we won't be able to help anyone in the world.

You do realize many of us were refugee's and immigrants including many of your ancestors. Its not about donating money. You don't get it. It would be great if they could stay in their country, but they cannot. The US is declining as we are not effectively using the resources we have. We have so much government waste and corruption... imagine if we really did some clean up how much extra we could have. The poor get food stamps and many other programs - they are income based and eligible to everyone that meets the criteria. My family came over running from Hitler. Just think, if the US took more rather than turning those who needed it away, many of our family members could have lived. But, I guess that's ok with you and I personally cannot imagine what those people are going through. I fully support having them here.

My ancestors did come here and paid their own way even though they were leaving starvation and terrible times. However, the US did not pay for them one cent. They came here for one legally and waited in line and for two, they paid their own way and stayed with family or friends until they could make enough money. They would never have taken money from the US to come here.

+1
learned the language
broke their backs working
saved money to build a life in the US, plus $ to send back home
assimilated - and assimilated well
never took a dime from any social program

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else read this? I don't think this is fair for us to be able to come up with money to pay $64,000 per refugee to relocate them to the US when we have so many homeless families and Vets here already and so many poor people here already struggling to eat. Does anyone else agree with this?

http://freebeacon.com/issues/resettling-middle-eastern-refugees-costs-taxpayers-64370-per-refugee/

And crappy schools. The teachers walked out in Detroit due to mold and rats... Think what this money could do.

exactly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be THRILLED to allocate additional funds and programs to the homeless in the US to help them get back on their feet as well as help refugees. OP are you sure you want to raise taxes and add programs to help the homeless?

Absolutely! I want to give the $64,000 to pie homeless and to our vets that are homeless and poor!

There is a lot of funding for the homeless, especially in our area as well as vets. There are not a huge amount of vets that are truly homeless and most is due to mental health issues (and often they barely served any actual time) so the bigger issue (same for the homeless) is addressing the mental health issues. You can give someone a home, food, medical care but in less they are able to maintain it, they become homeless again. Its to as simple as throwing money to the situation. We've done that as a country and we still have the same issues.

Lazy people throw money, not knowing how it's used. So wasteful.

Gee, Glenn Beck spent $10,000 per person to relocate Christians with his Nazarene fund and that was just to get them to a host country. Other organizations are providing financial and other support after they get there. I know this because Glenn Beck wrote about it on his site. So I guess Beck is wasteful and lazy, too.

There is a difference between using privately donated funds and government funds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be THRILLED to allocate additional funds and programs to the homeless in the US to help them get back on their feet as well as help refugees. OP are you sure you want to raise taxes and add programs to help the homeless?

Absolutely! I want to give the $64,000 to pie homeless and to our vets that are homeless and poor!

There is a lot of funding for the homeless, especially in our area as well as vets. There are not a huge amount of vets that are truly homeless and most is due to mental health issues (and often they barely served any actual time) so the bigger issue (same for the homeless) is addressing the mental health issues. You can give someone a home, food, medical care but in less they are able to maintain it, they become homeless again. Its to as simple as throwing money to the situation. We've done that as a country and we still have the same issues.

Lazy people throw money, not knowing how it's used. So wasteful.

Gee, Glenn Beck spent $10,000 per person to relocate Christians with his Nazarene fund and that was just to get them to a host country. Other organizations are providing financial and other support after they get there. I know this because Glenn Beck wrote about it on his site. So I guess Beck is wasteful and lazy, too.

How generous of him only to rescue Christians who share his beliefs abandoning those who need it as he does not feel their religion is worthy. I could not care less that he donated some money to move folks without helping them after and long term...he just did it for bragging rights.

He did it because Christians were being murdered in horrific ways and Obama was sweeping that under the rug in favor of helping Muslims. He knew Obama was not going to help, so he started the Nazarene fund to do so.