Gaithersburg HS 9th grader (and a refugee) arrested for Montgomery Village murder

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Libs are gonna get killed in the election if they keep this crap up.

Seriously!

We (by which I mean people in the US) are already getting killed because of the ridiculous number of guns and the ridiculous laxity of gun laws in this country. Thanks, bought-and-paid-for political hacks who have 100% ratings from the NRA and morons like this poster!

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Unless you have lived that life or are currently living that life you have NO clue. It is absolutely not appropriate to have 13 year old girls (who are not streetwise) in the same school with these thugs. It's ridiculous to bring Syrians into an argument that concerns gang members from central america.

Why? Please explain the fears specifically.

See the post right above yours.
You are another naive one. As if there is no chance for interaction between the 13 yr old and the man just because they aren't in the same classes.

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But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

That's what it always boils down to, somehow. We can't have this because people's 13-year-old daughters will be in the same school building as 21-year-old men! This is not a rational argument, it's a fear-based one.

So you are okay with your kids going to high school with 18-22yr old men in gangs?

I don't suppose that 18-22-year-old men in gangs are dedicated attenders of regular high schools. It also seems unlikely that they'll be in very many of my kids' college prep high school classes. They might be enrolled at the same high school, but I don't understand the problem with this? Are you worried about, for example, gang shoot-outs in the hallways? And if so, would the gang shoot-outs in the hallways be worse if the gang members were 18-22 than 16-18?

You are completely clueless.

I grew up poor and went to a high school that was a mix of poor and wealthy. I also knew one kid that had failed out multiple times, so much that he was the only high school freshman with a full beard, no lie. He lived down the street from me. You are right he did not go to school all the time, just enough to sell drugs, and guess who his number one customers were? The wealthy kids, they thought he was cool. You would see them driving their nice cars down our street to buy drugs from him. Those nice cars and preppy kids, stood out like a sore thumb in that neighborhood.

Being a shy,nerdy girl I was very scared of him, and he was always nice to me but he did try to hit on me when I was 13 or 14. My parents both worked, and I would get home and lock myself and my brother in the house. A couple of times, he knocked on our door, but I never answered. He eventually went to jail, for raping a minor, actually he was charged with multiple offenses but he was only found guilty of one. My daughter does not have that kind of life, she has a nice sheltered Chevy Chase life, but don't pretend that these kids are all safe and try to split hairs whether its a 16-18 year old gang member or 18-22 is more dangerous.

Unless you have lived that life or are currently living that life you have NO clue. It is absolutely not appropriate to have 13 year old girls (who are not streetwise) in the same school with these thugs. It's ridiculous to bring Syrians into an argument that concerns gang members from central america.

I would guess the first question out of this community would be where are his parents? They were drunks, they didn't care, I believe they were also selling drugs. Stick your heads in the sand but the kids in the poor neighborhoods are the ones who have to deal with this, not you.

You're so right PP. This is the kind of scenario I was imagining. I can't believe how many people grew up in some sheltered bubble and have no clue what could happen to them. I'm sorry you had to be scared like that.

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I can't believe people are okay with 20+ yr olds even being in a high school, refugees, gang-related or not. That is insane to me. You are talking some 9 year gaps in kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people are okay with 20+ yr olds even being in a high school, refugees, gang-related or not. That is insane to me. You are talking some 9 year gaps in kids.

Schools are full of 19 year old seniors thanks to redshirting.. this is not about refugees or gangs, it's about the 1% trying to secure their 1% status.

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Unless you have lived that life or are currently living that life you have NO clue. It is absolutely not appropriate to have 13 year old girls (who are not streetwise) in the same school with these thugs. It's ridiculous to bring Syrians into an argument that concerns gang members from central america.

Why? Please explain the fears specifically.

See the post right above yours.
You are another naive one. As if there is no chance for interaction between the 13 yr old and the man just because they aren't in the same classes.

Oh no, a 13-year-old girl might interact with a 20-year-old man?

I think everybody knows what kind of specific "interaction" you're talking about. I wish you would be clear about that: argument here is that if a 13-year-old girl is in the same high school building as 20-year-old man, she might get raped, so therefore 20-year-old men should not be allowed in high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people are okay with 20+ yr olds even being in a high school, refugees, gang-related or not. That is insane to me. You are talking some 9 year gaps in kids.

That's the law. If you don't like the law, contact your state legislator.

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But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

That's what it always boils down to, somehow. We can't have this because people's 13-year-old daughters will be in the same school building as 21-year-old men! This is not a rational argument, it's a fear-based one.

So you are okay with your kids going to high school with 18-22yr old men in gangs?

I don't suppose that 18-22-year-old men in gangs are dedicated attenders of regular high schools. It also seems unlikely that they'll be in very many of my kids' college prep high school classes. They might be enrolled at the same high school, but I don't understand the problem with this? Are you worried about, for example, gang shoot-outs in the hallways? And if so, would the gang shoot-outs in the hallways be worse if the gang members were 18-22 than 16-18?

You are completely clueless.

I grew up poor and went to a high school that was a mix of poor and wealthy. I also knew one kid that had failed out multiple times, so much that he was the only high school freshman with a full beard, no lie. He lived down the street from me. You are right he did not go to school all the time, just enough to sell drugs, and guess who his number one customers were? The wealthy kids, they thought he was cool. You would see them driving their nice cars down our street to buy drugs from him. Those nice cars and preppy kids, stood out like a sore thumb in that neighborhood.

Being a shy,nerdy girl I was very scared of him, and he was always nice to me but he did try to hit on me when I was 13 or 14. My parents both worked, and I would get home and lock myself and my brother in the house. A couple of times, he knocked on our door, but I never answered. He eventually went to jail, for raping a minor, actually he was charged with multiple offenses but he was only found guilty of one. My daughter does not have that kind of life, she has a nice sheltered Chevy Chase life, but don't pretend that these kids are all safe and try to split hairs whether its a 16-18 year old gang member or 18-22 is more dangerous.

Unless you have lived that life or are currently living that life you have NO clue. It is absolutely not appropriate to have 13 year old girls (who are not streetwise) in the same school with these thugs. It's ridiculous to bring Syrians into an argument that concerns gang members from central america.

I would guess the first question out of this community would be where are his parents? They were drunks, they didn't care, I believe they were also selling drugs. Stick your heads in the sand but the kids in the poor neighborhoods are the ones who have to deal with this, not you.

You're so right PP. This is the kind of scenario I was imagining. I can't believe how many people grew up in some sheltered bubble and have no clue what could happen to them. I'm sorry you had to be scared like that.

There is a whole different world that exists outside of our affluent bubble, and these poorer communities pay the human cost for allowing in these gang members. As a society we need to think a little bit about the stark reality instead of the theoretical concepts.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people are okay with 20+ yr olds even being in a high school, refugees, gang-related or not. That is insane to me. You are talking some 9 year gaps in kids.

That's the law. If you don't like the law, contact your state legislator.

What is the law? What is the cut-off? Can a 25yr old go to high school too? Can he play sports, be in clubs, go to dances? Totally bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people are okay with 20+ yr olds even being in a high school, refugees, gang-related or not. That is insane to me. You are talking some 9 year gaps in kids.

That's the law. If you don't like the law, contact your state legislator.

What is the law? What is the cut-off? Can a 25yr old go to high school too? Can he play sports, be in clubs, go to dances? Totally bizarre.

No, a 25-year-old cannot go to high school. You must be less than 21 on the first day of school. Note that this applies to girls/women as well as boys/men.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people are okay with 20+ yr olds even being in a high school, refugees, gang-related or not. That is insane to me. You are talking some 9 year gaps in kids.

That's the law. If you don't like the law, contact your state legislator.

And support MCPS policies that provide smart alternatives to students who would otherwise by 5th and 6th year seniors. I used to teach HS Plus which permitted both credit recovery (for struggling students who often couldn't afford summer school) and acceleration (for students who wanted to finish HS earlier, often the bored MC kids). The program was cut largely for budgetary reasons. Tell your council person that you are willing to pay a little extra in taxes so that your 13 year old Larla doesn't have to take Algebra I with 19 year old Larlito.

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Seriously, would people on here be any less scared of this hypothetical man if he were 18 than if he were 20? They are just afraid of a Hispanic man around their freshman girl, period. The only way for them to solve this would be to not allow their child to go to school with Hispanics, or males, or 18-year-olds.

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People who kill are raging. The killing/violence is a symptom of a bigger problem.

Too afraid to address that?? Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

+2

--another teacher (in a W feeder MCPS school).

Because you get so many refugees at your school.

Actually, we have a lot of refugees from war-torn places at my school. They just aren't impoverished. [/quote

Honey, you lost your "street cred" when you wrote W feeder.

- former DCC/current NEC teacher

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Anonymous wrote:So glad I live in PG and not MoCo. All my MoCo friens are afraid of gang violence. I feel safe where I live.

Where do you think our Mo Co gang members come from? PG and DC

You're an idiot.