Gaithersburg HS 9th grader (and a refugee) arrested for Montgomery Village murder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know all those unaccompanied kids fleeing Honduras and giving refugee status and placed in random high schools all over MCPS last year? Well one of them, a 9th grader, was just arrested for murdering a 22yr old found dead in the woods in Montgomery Village. All gang related. This article makes me very nervous. My kids are in a high school very close to Gaithersburg.


https://wamu.org/news/15/11/18/murder_is_sign_of_disturbing_increase_in_ms_13_gang_activity_prosecutor_says


And since Honduran police just arrested 5 Syrians who produced fake passports yesterday - all heading to US by means of saying they are a Honduran refugees, there needs to be concern. I just hope they aren't missing anyone and no one has or is going to slip thru the cracks.

These unaccompanied minor immigrants and the 5 arrested in Honduras yesterday have nothing to do with the refugee resettlement process that is at issue. The refugee resettlement process involves 18-24 months of background checks and screening prior to the immigrant ever setting foot into the United States. The vast majority of those arrested and/or convicted of terrorism related charges - and the 9/11 terrorists - entered the US on tourist, student or work visas - visas that are much easier to obtain than refugee resettlement.

Which is why Syrians are trying all avenues, hence trying to get in thru the US/Mexican border that Honduras children and young adults have, seeking asylum from violence. The only ones getting background checks are the ones directly coming here. And let's be honest, what type of background check do you do? Sadly most Syrians have no form of trail to background. The claim is to make the American people feel safe.

But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

That's what it always boils down to, somehow. We can't have this because people's 13-year-old daughters will be in the same school building as 21-year-old men! This is not a rational argument, it's a fear-based one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

That's what it always boils down to, somehow. We can't have this because people's 13-year-old daughters will be in the same school building as 21-year-old men! This is not a rational argument, it's a fear-based one.

So you are okay with your kids going to high school with 18-22yr old men in gangs?

[Anonymous]

Of course it is fear based. If my 13 year old daughter was spending time with a college senior, I would be terrified. Why should that be any different because the man is in HS and from a different country?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course it is fear based. If my 13 year old daughter was spending time with a college senior, I would be terrified. Why should that be any different because the man is in HS and from a different country?

Where "spending time with" means "being in the same building with, in addition to 1,000+ other people"? Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

That's what it always boils down to, somehow. We can't have this because people's 13-year-old daughters will be in the same school building as 21-year-old men! This is not a rational argument, it's a fear-based one.

So you are okay with your kids going to high school with 18-22yr old men in gangs?

Much safer than your lax bro

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

That's what it always boils down to, somehow. We can't have this because people's 13-year-old daughters will be in the same school building as 21-year-old men! This is not a rational argument, it's a fear-based one.

So you are okay with your kids going to high school with 18-22yr old men in gangs?

I don't suppose that 18-22-year-old men in gangs are dedicated attenders of regular high schools. It also seems unlikely that they'll be in very many of my kids' college prep high school classes. They might be enrolled at the same high school, but I don't understand the problem with this? Are you worried about, for example, gang shoot-outs in the hallways? And if so, would the gang shoot-outs in the hallways be worse if the gang members were 18-22 than 16-18?

[Anonymous]

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Libs are gonna get killed in the election if they keep this crap up.

Seriously!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course it is fear based. If my 13 year old daughter was spending time with a college senior, I would be terrified. Why should that be any different because the man is in HS and from a different country?

Where "spending time with" means "being in the same building with, in addition to 1,000+ other people"? Why?

Not the PP but who do you think the 21/22yr olds are hanging out with in the high school, no one? I am sure every 15yr old is scared to death of them. Hearing a freshman killed a 22yr old man because he went to the police after 3 gang members (including him) jumped and beat this poor guy to a pulp is scary. Finding out the freshman was 17 and there are plenty more going thru high school. Even scarier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course it is fear based. If my 13 year old daughter was spending time with a college senior, I would be terrified. Why should that be any different because the man is in HS and from a different country?

Where "spending time with" means "being in the same building with, in addition to 1,000+ other people"? Why?

Not the PP but who do you think the 21/22yr olds are hanging out with in the high school, no one? I am sure every 15yr old is scared to death of them. Hearing a freshman killed a 22yr old man because he went to the police after 3 gang members (including him) jumped and beat this poor guy to a pulp is scary. Finding out the freshman was 17 and there are plenty more going thru high school. Even scarier.

Presumably not the PP's 13-year-old daughter.

[Anonymous]

So glad I live in PG and not MoCo. All my MoCo friens are afraid of gang violence. I feel safe where I live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So glad I live in PG and not MoCo. All my MoCo friens are afraid of gang violence. I feel safe where I live.

Do you just learn to live with gang violence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not to worry - we will be having more refugees arrive soon. I am sure THEY will assimilate. I am sure THEY will never join a gang.
I am sure THEY will all be law abiding people.

(And, people wonder why Donald Trump is so attractive to the citizens in this country. It’s really not a mystery.)

Yep, it's the orange hair. Traditional color for attracting the deranged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

+2

--another teacher (in a W feeder MCPS school).