Gaithersburg HS 9th grader (and a refugee) arrested for Montgomery Village murder

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Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

+2

--another teacher (in a W feeder MCPS school).

Because you get so many refugees at your school.

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But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

That's what it always boils down to, somehow. We can't have this because people's 13-year-old daughters will be in the same school building as 21-year-old men! This is not a rational argument, it's a fear-based one.

So you are okay with your kids going to high school with 18-22yr old men in gangs?

I don't suppose that 18-22-year-old men in gangs are dedicated attenders of regular high schools. It also seems unlikely that they'll be in very many of my kids' college prep high school classes. They might be enrolled at the same high school, but I don't understand the problem with this? Are you worried about, for example, gang shoot-outs in the hallways? And if so, would the gang shoot-outs in the hallways be worse if the gang members were 18-22 than 16-18?

You are completely clueless.

I grew up poor and went to a high school that was a mix of poor and wealthy. I also knew one kid that had failed out multiple times, so much that he was the only high school freshman with a full beard, no lie. He lived down the street from me. You are right he did not go to school all the time, just enough to sell drugs, and guess who his number one customers were? The wealthy kids, they thought he was cool. You would see them driving their nice cars down our street to buy drugs from him. Those nice cars and preppy kids, stood out like a sore thumb in that neighborhood.

Being a shy,nerdy girl I was very scared of him, and he was always nice to me but he did try to hit on me when I was 13 or 14. My parents both worked, and I would get home and lock myself and my brother in the house. A couple of times, he knocked on our door, but I never answered. He eventually went to jail, for raping a minor, actually he was charged with multiple offenses but he was only found guilty of one. My daughter does not have that kind of life, she has a nice sheltered Chevy Chase life, but don't pretend that these kids are all safe and try to split hairs whether its a 16-18 year old gang member or 18-22 is more dangerous.

Unless you have lived that life or are currently living that life you have NO clue. It is absolutely not appropriate to have 13 year old girls (who are not streetwise) in the same school with these thugs. It's ridiculous to bring Syrians into an argument that concerns gang members from central america.

I would guess the first question out of this community would be where are his parents? They were drunks, they didn't care, I believe they were also selling drugs. Stick your heads in the sand but the kids in the poor neighborhoods are the ones who have to deal with this, not you.

[Anonymous]

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Unless you have lived that life or are currently living that life you have NO clue. It is absolutely not appropriate to have 13 year old girls (who are not streetwise) in the same school with these thugs. It's ridiculous to bring Syrians into an argument that concerns gang members from central america.

Why? Please explain the fears specifically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But the point of all this is, you are bringing in various poor immigrants with little to no upbringing. Ones that have grown up with violence all around them. They find comfort/family in Central American gangs just like members of ISIS make new recruits feel welcome and they have a "family." Gangs have been on the decline in MCPS but in the last year, they are recruiting new refugees as members and are climbing in numbers. That is concerning me. I am not against helping people but how many do we take and just plop into society and schools and hope they can find their way and assimilate. The freshman arrested for murder was actually 17yrs old. If he didn't murder someone and actually graduated on time, he would be a 21/22yr old senior. My daughter will be 13 when she enters as a freshman. Having grown men with gang affiliations in high schools should not be happening.

That's what it always boils down to, somehow. We can't have this because people's 13-year-old daughters will be in the same school building as 21-year-old men! This is not a rational argument, it's a fear-based one.

So you are okay with your kids going to high school with 18-22yr old men in gangs?

I don't suppose that 18-22-year-old men in gangs are dedicated attenders of regular high schools. It also seems unlikely that they'll be in very many of my kids' college prep high school classes. They might be enrolled at the same high school, but I don't understand the problem with this? Are you worried about, for example, gang shoot-outs in the hallways? And if so, would the gang shoot-outs in the hallways be worse if the gang members were 18-22 than 16-18?

You are completely clueless.

I grew up poor and went to a high school that was a mix of poor and wealthy. I also knew one kid that had failed out multiple times, so much that he was the only high school freshman with a full beard, no lie. He lived down the street from me. You are right he did not go to school all the time, just enough to sell drugs, and guess who his number one customers were? The wealthy kids, they thought he was cool. You would see them driving their nice cars down our street to buy drugs from him. Those nice cars and preppy kids, stood out like a sore thumb in that neighborhood.

Being a shy,nerdy girl I was very scared of him, and he was always nice to me but he did try to hit on me when I was 13 or 14. My parents both worked, and I would get home and lock myself and my brother in the house. A couple of times, he knocked on our door, but I never answered. He eventually went to jail, for raping a minor, actually he was charged with multiple offenses but he was only found guilty of one. My daughter does not have that kind of life, she has a nice sheltered Chevy Chase life, but don't pretend that these kids are all safe and try to split hairs whether its a 16-18 year old gang member or 18-22 is more dangerous.

Unless you have lived that life or are currently living that life you have NO clue. It is absolutely not appropriate to have 13 year old girls (who are not streetwise) in the same school with these thugs. It's ridiculous to bring Syrians into an argument that concerns gang members from central america.

I would guess the first question out of this community would be where are his parents? They were drunks, they didn't care, I believe they were also selling drugs. Stick your heads in the sand but the kids in the poor neighborhoods are the ones who have to deal with this, not you.

He is likely one of the many unaccompanied minors who came last year. As for his parents, they are more likely to be dead than to be drunks or drug dealers.

[Anonymous]

One thing that I couldn't understand is why these people came here with many excuses that they have to run away from their country because of gang violence and they are afraid for their safety. But then when they came here, they end up joining gangs. America is a great country with a lot of opportunities, if you work hard you will be well of. I came here in my teen year and lived in a foster home. I had to learned English, went to school and working after school. Those years were tough but I went through it and got my BS degree and have a good job now. So my point is if they come here they should work hard and moving up. Instead of joining gang and become a burden to a country that rescuse them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

+2

--another teacher (in a W feeder MCPS school).

Because you get so many refugees at your school.

Actually, we have a lot of refugees from war-torn places at my school. They just aren't impoverished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The lower and higher SEC? Like Auburn and Florida? Otherwise I honestly don't know what you mean.

Vanderbilt must be a higher SEC. It always seems like an outlier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know all those unaccompanied kids fleeing Honduras and giving refugee status and placed in random high schools all over MCPS last year? Well one of them, a 9th grader, was just arrested for murdering a 22yr old found dead in the woods in Montgomery Village. All gang related. This article makes me very nervous. My kids are in a high school very close to Gaithersburg.

What is "a high school very close to Gaithersburg"? Also, are your children in a gang?

She means Wootton and they are not in a gang but they buy weed from people in a gang.

Yep. You nailed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

+2

--another teacher (in a W feeder MCPS school).

Because you get so many refugees at your school.

Actually, we have a lot of refugees from war-torn places at my school. They just aren't impoverished.

So the unaccompanied minors that were seeking asylum from violence and now joining M-13 probably are not there, correct?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing that I couldn't understand is why these people came here with many excuses that they have to run away from their country because of gang violence and they are afraid for their safety. But then when they came here, they end up joining gangs. America is a great country with a lot of opportunities, if you work hard you will be well of. I came here in my teen year and lived in a foster home. I had to learned English, went to school and working after school. Those years were tough but I went through it and got my BS degree and have a good job now. So my point is if they come here they should work hard and moving up. Instead of joining gang and become a burden to a country that rescuse them.

They are poor, uneducated and have no family. Gangs are a form of family, however demented that is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing that I couldn't understand is why these people came here with many excuses that they have to run away from their country because of gang violence and they are afraid for their safety. But then when they came here, they end up joining gangs. America is a great country with a lot of opportunities, if you work hard you will be well of. I came here in my teen year and lived in a foster home. I had to learned English, went to school and working after school. Those years were tough but I went through it and got my BS degree and have a good job now. So my point is if they come here they should work hard and moving up. Instead of joining gang and become a burden to a country that rescuse them.

They are poor, uneducated and have no family. Gangs are a form of family, however demented that is.

The reason why these refugee kids join gangs is the same reason why US born kids join gangs. At least the US born kids know the English. The refugees don't know the language *and* don't have any family support. Not saying it's an excuse. Just saying these kids have even less than US born kids that join gangs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

As a teacher, would you say these kids are neglected on some level? From what I see, rich kids can be as neglected as poor kids, sometimes more so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

As a teacher, would you say these kids are neglected on some level? From what I see, rich kids can be as neglected as poor kids, sometimes more so.

Rich white kid's lives matter! (The most)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

As a teacher, would you say these kids are neglected on some level? From what I see, rich kids can be as neglected as poor kids, sometimes more so.

Rich white kid's lives matter! (The most)

I get it. Black youth can kill each other like fleas, and it's just another day in the hood. The minute rich white kids get shot, it's international headlines and fierce demand for additional gun controls.

Perhaps it'll be the rich families who will obediently turn in their firearms when ordered. But the poor blacks will keep getting illegal guns any way they need to. Is that right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally I'm a lot more worried about a homegrown whack job with multiple weapons blowing up my kid's school a la Columbine or Newtown. More likely than a rogue Syrian killing them.

As a teacher, I couldn't agree more.

As a teacher, would you say these kids are neglected on some level? From what I see, rich kids can be as neglected as poor kids, sometimes more so.

Rich white kid's lives matter! (The most)

I get it. Black youth can kill each other like fleas, and it's just another day in the hood. The minute rich white kids get shot, it's international headlines and fierce demand for additional gun controls.

Perhaps it'll be the rich families who will obediently turn in their firearms when ordered. But the poor blacks will keep getting illegal guns any way they need to. Is that right?

Wow, you really didn't catch on to the PP's sarcasm. Calm down. Americans have got to get over this racist BS and unite. Keep our own safe.