Asians suing Harvard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-15/harvard-faces-admissions-bias-complaint-from-asian-americans

I don't get why the ivies just don't open up the admissions stats a la election crosstabs.

State the applications received, admits accepted, and # matriculated.

And do it based on race, gender, recruited athlete status, legacy, and development (the main 'flags'), type of high school (public, private, magnet, charter, home school), class rank/grades, and standardized test scores.

Then explicitly state - yes we practice quotas in order to give URM's an edge.

I think everyone will be more accepting when there is more transparency.

That we we can see - OK if you are a white, female, with these scores, and no hooks - X was your acceptance rate last year.

so on and so forth.

I think whites and asians would be accepting of URM edges in admission rates if it was made transparent.

So lets have blatant racism against Asians broadcasted and then force-feed it to them. Aces.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why doesn't Harvard accept all valedictorians? they're all first in their class and many kids get accepted who aren't valedictorians. I think perhaps valedictorians could have a lawsuit.

Are you dumb or purposely trying to stir the water?
First in class in one HS could be a below average student in another.
Now next question asshole!

Why it is impossible to have a meaningful discussion on any topic on this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good. I believe college/university admissions should be race blind.

And I think that they should be gender blind. But that's not going to happen. White males have an easier time with admission than white females except at STEM colleges looking to increase female enrollment. Life isn't always fair even for the privileged. Get over it and get a grip.

yeah it's easy to say "get over it" when you're taking advantage of other people or treating other people criminally.

Holy shit. We're talking about Harvard admissions here. It's not the end of the world if you don't get into Harvard. It's not like the police are unfairly arresting/shooting you for your race. So what if Asians have a slightly lower acceptance rate to Harvard than there would be if they didn't try to build a balance class?

You know that it's not just Harvard admissions. In this country, Asian Americans are discriminated in almost all the areas including elite college admission and corporate executive positions. To hide their crimes, they often label us as lack of leadership etc, which are evidenced as pure bullshit.
So it's not just Harvard admission. It's how we tell our kids that this country systematically discriminates them simply because of their race.

I used to think so too, but in the thread about Indian Americans someone provided a long list of Indian Corporate executives, so apparently many Asians are in positions of power and I, guess, as many are creative people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good. I believe college/university admissions should be race blind.

And I think that they should be gender blind. But that's not going to happen. White males have an easier time with admission than white females except at STEM colleges looking to increase female enrollment. Life isn't always fair even for the privileged. Get over it and get a grip.

yeah it's easy to say "get over it" when you're taking advantage of other people or treating other people criminally.

Holy shit. We're talking about Harvard admissions here. It's not the end of the world if you don't get into Harvard. It's not like the police are unfairly arresting/shooting you for your race. So what if Asians have a slightly lower acceptance rate to Harvard than there would be if they didn't try to build a balance class?

You know that it's not just Harvard admissions. In this country, Asian Americans are discriminated in almost all the areas including elite college admission and corporate executive positions. To hide their crimes, they often label us as lack of leadership etc, which are evidenced as pure bullshit.
So it's not just Harvard admission. It's how we tell our kids that this country systematically discriminates them simply because of their race.

I used to think so too, but in the thread about Indian Americans someone provided a long list of Indian Corporate executives, so apparently many Asians are in positions of power and I, guess, as many are creative people.

Yeah I was the one who dropped that post. I'm the OP as well.

I posted it to combat what many think - i.e. asians are not leadership material. I don't think the bamboo ceiling exists (all that much, maybe very slightly) in the private sector but it sure as hell does in elite college admissions. Unlike a lot of Asian-Americans who want the policy reversed, I'm OK (grudgingly) with it being status quo but just being transparent and honest.

When I was interviewing and BCG, Bain, McKinsey, Goldman - I never felt I had to attain a 'higher bar' due to my race to get a job.

However, when I applied to UG and Grad school, I definitely felt that.

That's why I wrote the post also about where do URM ivy grads go? Because even though ivies have the best pipelines into elite strategy consulting, banking, and technology, blacks and hispanics do not show up during OCI or in the ranks of these target areas that elite grads fight to get into.

Where I did see URM ivy alums more frequently are when I moved to DC and worked in gov and on the hill.

I assume top law schools are the other avenue? I have no idea what the racial composition of biglaw is at the associate level with respect to % of URM's at t14 schools.

[jsteele]

This thread went off the rails in some really strange directions. I've removed a lot of those messages, but I'm going to lock the thread as well.