Fire in upper NW?

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Anonymous wrote:fox 5 reporter stated on twitter that the porsche that went missing and was found later was usually driven by wife of owner (i'm assuming they're referring to the owner of the home). also that 2 housekeepers were escorted away and appeared shaken up.

I think that if I lived or worked with someone day in and day out, including their children, and that the family was all murdered in an incident of arson, that narrowly missed killing me, I'd be "shaken up", regardless of whether I had any involvement or knowledge of what happened.

I also imagine that at this point the police are questioning and protecting all witnesses.

Given that, I'd expect that the housekeepers would be "escorted away" and "appeared shaken up". I don't think it's evidence of anything other than humanity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:fox 5 reporter stated on twitter that the porsche that went missing and was found later was usually driven by wife of owner (i'm assuming they're referring to the owner of the home). also that 2 housekeepers were escorted away and appeared shaken up.

I think that if I lived or worked with someone day in and day out, including their children, and that the family was all murdered in an incident of arson, that narrowly missed killing me, I'd be "shaken up", regardless of whether I had any involvement or knowledge of what happened.

I also imagine that at this point the police are questioning and protecting all witnesses.

Given that, I'd expect that the housekeepers would be "escorted away" and "appeared shaken up". I don't think it's evidence of anything other than humanity.

I'm not trying to say the housekeepers did it or that it's evidence of anything..I'm just posting info that I find as it comes in.

[Anonymous]

The family members are some really nice and generous people. I cannot begin to fathom what could have caused anyone to not only conceive but execute this vicious crime. My prayers are with the girls at this time. This is so very sad.

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Anonymous wrote:From Fox News: "A housekeeper who has worked for the family for 20 years told FOX 5's Marina Marraco that she was at the home on Wednesday. She said the couple, their 10-year-old son and another housekeeper slept in the home that night. The housekeeper received a text message Thursday morning from the mother and told her to not come by the home because the family was sick. When she called to respond to the text message, the phone call was not picked up."
Some kind of hostage situation? And wife was warning the housekeeper away?

Certainly sounds that way.

Or whoever killed them sent the message to the housekeeper.

Seems unlikely. The killer would have to know about the 2nd housekeeper, know she's scheduled to come in, and know her name to find it in the phone. I doubt the owners would volunteer said info and doubt a killer would even think to ask.

Anyone remember the Starbucks triple mirder in Georgetown in 1999 or so? I think that's the last time I can recall something like this.

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Some kind of hostage situation? And wife was warning the housekeeper away?

Certainly sounds that way.

Or whoever killed them sent the message to the housekeeper.

Seems unlikely. The killer would have to know about the 2nd housekeeper, know she's scheduled to come in, and know her name to find it in the phone. I doubt the owners would volunteer said info and doubt a killer would even think to ask.

Anyone remember the Starbucks triple mirder in Georgetown in 1999 or so? I think that's the last time I can recall something like this.

Reminds me of the home invasion that ended with the house on fire and all family members but the father dead.

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Anonymous wrote: .... Or whoever killed them sent the message to the housekeeper.

Seems unlikely. The killer would have to know about the 2nd housekeeper, know she's scheduled to come in, and know her name to find it in the phone. I doubt the owners would volunteer said info and doubt a killer would even think to ask.

Anyone remember the Starbucks triple mirder in Georgetown in 1999 or so? I think that's the last time I can recall something like this.



No, this case was much more on point:

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/2-Found-Dead-in-Chevy-Chase-Neighborhood-in-DC.html

Decent, basic upper NWDC people brutally murdered inside their home by someone who had ties to the family. As well, the murderer is way, way too stupid to think through the details of committing a crime like this without getting caught. So they set stuff on fire, blow things up, or in the case of the above link, spatter blood everywhere and let all the neighbors see them come and go

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Anonymous wrote:From Fox News: "A housekeeper who has worked for the family for 20 years told FOX 5's Marina Marraco that she was at the home on Wednesday. She said the couple, their 10-year-old son and another housekeeper slept in the home that night. The housekeeper received a text message Thursday morning from the mother and told her to not come by the home because the family was sick. When she called to respond to the text message, the phone call was not picked up."
Some kind of hostage situation? And wife was warning the housekeeper away?

Certainly sounds that way.

Or whoever killed them sent the message to the housekeeper.

Seems unlikely. The killer would have to know about the 2nd housekeeper, know she's scheduled to come in, and know her name to find it in the phone. I doubt the owners would volunteer said info and doubt a killer would even think to ask.

Though if the mom had the phone and could warn away the housekeeper, I wonder why she wouldn't also ask for help?

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Anonymous wrote:From Fox News: "A housekeeper who has worked for the family for 20 years told FOX 5's Marina Marraco that she was at the home on Wednesday. She said the couple, their 10-year-old son and another housekeeper slept in the home that night. The housekeeper received a text message Thursday morning from the mother and told her to not come by the home because the family was sick. When she called to respond to the text message, the phone call was not picked up."
Some kind of hostage situation? And wife was warning the housekeeper away?

Certainly sounds that way.

Or whoever killed them sent the message to the housekeeper.

Seems unlikely. The killer would have to know about the 2nd housekeeper, know she's scheduled to come in, and know her name to find it in the phone. I doubt the owners would volunteer said info and doubt a killer would even think to ask.

Though if the mom had the phone and could warn away the housekeeper, I wonder why she wouldn't also ask for help?

Because either
1) She didn't send the text, the perp did or forced her to send it
2) she was the perp
3) bizarre coincidence that she was really sick and just didn't want the 2nd housekeeper around

[Anonymous]

NBC now reporting that at least one victim suffered trauma and smelled like gasoline. Just too awful for words - what in the world happened and why?

[Anonymous]

Just to add to what the pp posted from nbc.."According to investigators, one of the victims was bleeding from the head and had a heavy smell of gasoline when he or she was transported to Georgetown University Hospital."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NBC now reporting that at least one victim suffered trauma and smelled like gasoline. Just too awful for words - what in the world happened and why?

Can you post link? I couldn't find this information.

The accelerant used in arson cases, I guess, is usually gasoline.

Do you think random home invaders bring gasoline with them...or, I suppose, panic when they find someone home and the invasion escalates to murder and they try to cover up the crime (like a PP noted), using what they can find at the home.

Seems like a lot of activity going on in that house and no one in the neighborhood saw anything that police want the community to phone in tips about, other than the car (why have the police STILL not stated which part of Maryland the car was found?) Maybe the family always had workers going in/out of the home, so no one noticed anything out of the ordinary.

[Anonymous]

You DCUM sleuths figured out the attorney/Craigslist murder much quicker than this one. Just sayin.

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http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/At-Least-1-Victim-in-Burned-DC-Home-Suffered-Trauma-Smelled-of-Gas-303883991.htmlC

[Anonymous]

If the housekeeper did receive a text from the "mother's phone", asking her not to come into work that day (and there is no reason to think she didn't), it suggests essentially two possibilities:

(1) the mother had the foresight to prevent her housekeeper from stumbling into a dangerous situation, and was able to convince the perpetrator(s) that it was in his best interest to keep other parties away; and

(2) the mother secretly hoped that the unusual text might trigger a warning or rescue (especially if she was being supervised while writing it). According to the housekeeper, it did cause her to make a follow-up phone call (to the house, or the mother's cell?) to see how the family was doing. That call supposedly went unanswered; OR

(3) the perpetrator is someone with intimate knowledge of the family and their routine, that is, someone who knew the housekeeper came over daily at the same time; and either knew the housekeeper's number, or knew how to retrieve it from the mother's phone. The perpetrator, then, sent the text to keep the housekeeper from walking into the crime scene, and having to deal with her also.

There is absolutely no reason to question the housekeeper's integrity and honesty in this matter. The police, however, will certainly look into the text sent from the mother's phone, and the housekeeper's subsequent unanswered phone call to the house, to determine that both were actually placed and, if so, for what reason.

[Anonymous]

My guess is that it was a home invasion/kidnapping/extortion situation, and the perpetrator(s) held the three family members and the housekeeper captive for several hours before killing them. Likely, the attacker entered the house very early in the morning or late evening, or, perhaps, it was someone they knew. It could have been someone they had employed or a business deal gone wrong.

I can easily imagine the family texting the second housekeeper and telling her not to come to work, under the supervision of the perpetrator.

The timing of the fire seems odd, given that the Porsche presumably driven from the house around 10:30am. I suppose the perpetrator could have used gasoline as an accelerant with a delayed ignition.

Still, there's the possibility this was familicide.

It's especially sad that a child was killed and two others are evidently parentless.