AAP Appeal Process

[Anonymous]

Great. Thanks for your honest comments

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Honestly, a 129 IQ and 11 GBRS is not the kind of learner that needs AAP services. Your child is consistently scoring bright but not brilliant and will be fine in general ed--and will have many intellectual peers in general ed. What are you so stressed out about?

NP here: What FISQ do you think, as a baseline, warrants admission?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Actually, they do tell you what they look for. They consider the "whole child" in reviewing the packets.
My DS also had very low processing speed on the WISC. The psychologist commented on the report that he was inefficient with answering the paper and pencil test- which could have pulled down his processing speed score. She also recommended we get him tested for ADHD but I know for sure that he doesn't have ADHD. I know that because my other kid ADHD and I know what it looks like beyond a test score.

This time last year, I was also anxiously awaiting results. Wishing you the best with the committee's decision. I have seen plenty here at DCUM with similar scores to your child that have been found eligible.

My DS is in AAP and the low processing speed has not mattered at all. He's had a stellar year and the teacher said "he likes to have his thinking time."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Actually, they do tell you what they look for. They consider the "whole child" in reviewing the packets.
My DS also had very low processing speed on the WISC. The psychologist commented on the report that he was inefficient with answering the paper and pencil test- which could have pulled down his processing speed score. She also recommended we get him tested for ADHD but I know for sure that he doesn't have ADHD. I know that because my other kid ADHD and I know what it looks like beyond a test score.

This time last year, I was also anxiously awaiting results. Wishing you the best with the committee's decision. I have seen plenty here at DCUM with similar scores to your child that have been found eligible.

My DS is in AAP and the low processing speed has not mattered at all. He's had a stellar year and the teacher said "he likes to have his thinking time."

That answers no question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Honestly, a 129 IQ and 11 GBRS is not the kind of learner that needs AAP services. Your child is consistently scoring bright but not brilliant and will be fine in general ed--and will have many intellectual peers in general ed. What are you so stressed out about?

"not that kind of learner that needs AAP services?" - not PP, but you need to get over yourself about prescribing what's best for their child. These are very, very good scores (98%) and the GBRS can be subjective depending how outgoing the child is and/or the teacher read of the student. PP wasn't crying stress but rather sharing that decision making process is a bit murky. I think they have a decent chance on appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Honestly, a 129 IQ and 11 GBRS is not the kind of learner that needs AAP services. Your child is consistently scoring bright but not brilliant and will be fine in general ed--and will have many intellectual peers in general ed. What are you so stressed out about?

NP here: What FISQ do you think, as a baseline, warrants admission?

140+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Honestly, a 129 IQ and 11 GBRS is not the kind of learner that needs AAP services. Your child is consistently scoring bright but not brilliant and will be fine in general ed--and will have many intellectual peers in general ed. What are you so stressed out about?

NP here: What FISQ do you think, as a baseline, warrants admission?

140+.

132+ is usually the cut off score for gifted.
However, I've seen so many kids with lower scores in aap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Honestly, a 129 IQ and 11 GBRS is not the kind of learner that needs AAP services. Your child is consistently scoring bright but not brilliant and will be fine in general ed--and will have many intellectual peers in general ed. What are you so stressed out about?

NP here: What FISQ do you think, as a baseline, warrants admission?

140+.

so north of 99.62%. Ok, that's an interesting opinion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Honestly, a 129 IQ and 11 GBRS is not the kind of learner that needs AAP services. Your child is consistently scoring bright but not brilliant and will be fine in general ed--and will have many intellectual peers in general ed. What are you so stressed out about?

NP here: What FISQ do you think, as a baseline, warrants admission?

140+.

so north of 99.62%. Ok, that's an interesting opinion

Clearly that's not the committee's view, but pp is free to opine as she/he wishes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son who has a diagnosis of ADHD got in to AAP with CoGAT of 115, nnat of 120 and gbrs of 10. Very strong work samples however.

Wow.. ridiculous!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Honestly, a 129 IQ and 11 GBRS is not the kind of learner that needs AAP services. Your child is consistently scoring bright but not brilliant and will be fine in general ed--and will have many intellectual peers in general ed. What are you so stressed out about?

PP - you have no idea what you are talking about. The correlation of IQ of young kids w/ performance in the future is about 40% - many kids are overlooked. Oh, the kids that are REALLY bright, they really developing in 3-5th grades while many of the initially precocious learners actually drop back.

[Anonymous]

I'm the OP. I went to Dr. Dahlgren as was recommended on this forum and she was terrific. Gave me great advice and insight. She gave him the Stanford Binet and now on ADHD meds, did much better than on the WISC he did before being diagnosed. I got the appeal letter today and he was admitted to Level IV. I thought I would let people know who might have interest in this information in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP. I went to Dr. Dahlgren as was recommended on this forum and she was terrific. Gave me great advice and insight. She gave him the Stanford Binet and now on ADHD meds, did much better than on the WISC he did before being diagnosed. I got the appeal letter today and he was admitted to Level IV. I thought I would let people know who might have interest in this information in the future.

Did you get the appeal ketter today? Would you please share your scores?