AAP Appeal Process

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are we medicating kids with psychotropic drugs just so they can handle a schoolwork that is a grade or two advanced?

Drugged up AAP kid vs non-drugged GenEd kid - scary to see which side some parents come down on this.

Because many parents are clueless and scared.

[Anonymous]

There isn't a higher percentage of SN kids (ASD, ADHD, mental health issues, physical disabilities) in AAP vs. General Ed.

[Anonymous]

OP, has the ADHD caused issues in the general ed classroom? If he is so impaired by ADHD that the psychologist can't administer the WISC properly, than I would think about medicating him so he can function in the classroom. Do 3rd grade in general ed and reassess at the end of next year whether you want to appeal for 4th grade.

[Anonymous]

CogAT : 136
NNAT : 129
Gbrs : 11 In pool
But, Not found eligible.
For Appeal

WISC :

VCI : 130 : 98 percentile
PRI : 131 98 percentile
WMI : 132 98 percentile
PSI : 91(very low) : 27th percentile
FISQ : 128 -98 percentile Superior
GAI : 136 : 99 percentile Very Superior
I am worried about processing speed Index. How much of weightage is that for AAP process. Psycologist explained that timed pressure and anxiety caused less processing speed index and no diagnosis for ADHD.
Is it worth submitting these scores, Would it help or hurt. Appreciate your feedback

[Anonymous]

The appeals form requires new information. It is my understanding most people provide new testing as this new information. I would think you would need to provide a new parent statement, perhaps explaining what new insight you can bring to the committee why your DC should be reconsidered for AAP placement.

Thanks. I can certainly write another letter and DC has a couple science projects, brainstorming maps, math strategies etc....

[Anonymous]

I understand that WISC scores submitted with appeal must also include a copy of the psychologist's license. Does that license have to be current??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand that WISC scores submitted with appeal must also include a copy of the psychologist's license. Does that license have to be current??

I'm sure...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone appealed and gained admission to AAP without additional testing? I love my DC but I just can't bring myself to spend $400 now on a test that DC will have to retake in the next few years (Applying to private school after sixth grade) For now, I'd rather put the $400 in DCs savings account.

no luck with appeal, but parent referred in 3rd and got in without new scores. His Naglieri was 126, CogAt 136 though. His nonverbal on CogAt was 148. So he had the scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are we medicating kids with psychotropic drugs just so they can handle a schoolwork that is a grade or two advanced?

Drugged up AAP kid vs non-drugged GenEd kid - scary to see which side some parents come down on this.

Np here. It's not always about drugging kids to be in AAP. My DC is a hot mess in Gen Ed with out meds. Constant complaints from teachers about being disorganized, not staying on task, and needing redirection. Many 2s. On meds, all 4s, no complaints. Just so happens on meds DC can handle accelerated work. Should we leave DC in Gen Ed unmedicated, making 2s and constantly being scolded by teachers for being disorganized so we can take the "high ground" of not medicating our kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we medicating kids with psychotropic drugs just so they can handle a schoolwork that is a grade or two advanced?

Drugged up AAP kid vs non-drugged GenEd kid - scary to see which side some parents come down on this.

Np here. It's not always about drugging kids to be in AAP. My DC is a hot mess in Gen Ed with out meds. Constant complaints from teachers about being disorganized, not staying on task, and needing redirection. Many 2s. On meds, all 4s, no complaints. Just so happens on meds DC can handle accelerated work. Should we leave DC in Gen Ed unmedicated, making 2s and constantly being scolded by teachers for being disorganized so we can take the "high ground" of not medicating our kid?

Totally get it. I have a relative who tried her best to avoid medication for one of her kids who is bright and creative but liked to be in his own world at inopportune times. She eventually put him on meds and the child was much happier with his ability to stay focused on topic at school. The mom didn't like the physical side affects, so she now has him on half dose and only on school days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
CogAT : 136
NNAT : 129
Gbrs : 11 In pool
But, Not found eligible.
For Appeal

WISC :

VCI : 130 : 98 percentile
PRI : 131 98 percentile
WMI : 132 98 percentile
PSI : 91(very low) : 27th percentile
FISQ : 128 -98 percentile Superior
GAI : 136 : 99 percentile Very Superior
I am worried about processing speed Index. How much of weightage is that for AAP process. Psycologist explained that timed pressure and anxiety caused less processing speed index and no diagnosis for ADHD.
Is it worth submitting these scores, Would it help or hurt. Appreciate your feedback

I think you have a good chance. Did you turn in work samples and a parent statement in the initial packet? My DC had the exact same scores and got in. Except, the IQ was initially turned in and was a 140. I believe the FISQ is the main score looked at. Not certain, to qualify for Mensa they only take FISQ and not the GAI. There may be something to that.. But, again I really have no clue. If your DC does not get in this year and you are still interested you may want to look at another type of IQ test.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

[Anonymous]

NP here. I think you have a good chance as well. My DS got in last year on appeal with lower scores. The key for him was work samples and a long letter I wrote (within the page limits) detailing how he met the GBRS criteria. My DS has ADHD and I think my letter explained how he fit well with the program. Anyway, based on what I have read on these boards, your scores should do it. GL.

[Anonymous]

Great! I am happy for you son I too wrote a strong letter highlighting her application knowledge which was given a 2 in her GBRS. She jumpstarted on scratch programming just by reading a book and I amazed to see that she wrote 2 pages on why she is interested in scratch programming and how one can have fun coding games I attached this writing as one of her sample work which shows her application knowledge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your response. This AAP selection process is such a big deal! Hard to understand what the committee is looking for . I know many kids who didn't meet the cut-offs in either of the tests but still found eligible by central committee due to their high GBRS. I personally feel GBRS-11(3-3s and 1- 2) is the main issue is my child's case.Yes, I did submit work samples and parent questionnaire in the previous packet. For the appeal, I submitted the WISC scores : FISQ : 129 and GAI : 136 and some more work samples and recommendation and a letter expressing my concern and interest for my daughter. I hope the committee understands that the child scores consistently in all the aptitude tests. I personally feel a tool or a computer is very effective in assessing a child's potential through testing rather an individual assessing a child...because of difference in understanding and perception.

Honestly, a 129 IQ and 11 GBRS is not the kind of learner that needs AAP services. Your child is consistently scoring bright but not brilliant and will be fine in general ed--and will have many intellectual peers in general ed. What are you so stressed out about?