The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants

[Anonymous]

My doctor is like that girl all grown up. He is a rich and brilliant Indian doctor, who went to Harvard med school. Part of it is the numbers -- of 1.4 billion people, he is the .01%. He like it here in the US. When we opened the doors of the Ivies to the elite from around the world, it changes the demographic. And it is much more competitive. Other countries are not nearly as open to foreign students in their top schools. Different approach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My doctor is like that girl all grown up. He is a rich and brilliant Indian doctor, who went to Harvard med school. Part of it is the numbers -- of 1.4 billion people, he is the .01%. He like it here in the US. When we opened the doors of the Ivies to the elite from around the world, it changes the demographic. And it is much more competitive. Other countries are not nearly as open to foreign students in their top schools. Different approach.

Good to know he like it here. I want him be happy if rich and brilliant.

[Anonymous]

Hmmm Avery Coffey who got accepted by 5 Ivy League schools is Black American, and goes to Benjamin Banneker, he's def not the first black American kid to achieve this so let's step back into reality with facts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Applying to all 8 Iviies means that the parents aren't concerned about fit or major or experience or anything else, except the brand name. They're looking for whatever brand name they can get. It's social climbing and grasping and pushy. At least the kid has a choice, now. Good for her

LOL.

Both parents are engineers from Bangalore. This means that they were people of means before they came to this country. College admissions in India to elite engineering colleges is much more competitive than in the US. Their kid did not go to a private HS. She got into TJ on her merit and aced it there. Look at her records - 8 Ivies and 6 highly ranked universities wanted her, and she competed with thousands of brilliant applicants from around the world to get acceptances. Not in one, not in two but all 14 schools!

They have already arrived, already rich and already high on the social ladder. I am willing to bet that their education, economic status, HHI, kid's achievement is already much higher than the PP's.

She has more choices in her schooling than most of the world will ever have. And if her motivation was to show all of us how brilliant she is - well she has proved her point without saying a word.

Yes - good for her.

Haters gonna hate!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP has a point. Many people familiar with the Ivies and similar schools look at someone's applying and gaining admission to all of them as a "Stupid Pet Trick," even if they are too polite to say it. There are such differences among the schools that applying to all of them is not especially rational, unless the goal is just to get into an Ivy and/or show that you can kick ass with admissions departments.

If I was a teen living in NoVa going to TJ, I would definitely apply to numerous schools. Your peers are virtually all as smart as you and her race puts her at a disadvantage as far as admissions go. It's not like she was the the standout student in a mediocre school, they're all so talented and smart.

If this child was a white, black or hispanic student the posts would be completely different and that is the sad reality of DCUM.

I beg to differ. As a white immigrant, I wonder if my child's story will be deemed equally compelling just because we don't look very different from the despised "whitey"

Dear "Whitey",

If your kid has the same credentials I will find it equally compelling. However, your child will first of all need to have the same credentials and academic and EC record. Ok?

-Not "Whitey".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Successful immigrant groups will end up like the Jews -- the subject of jealousy and hatred.

Exactly.
how dare these immigrants apply to 8 Ivies? And get accepted !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP has a point. Many people familiar with the Ivies and similar schools look at someone's applying and gaining admission to all of them as a "Stupid Pet Trick," even if they are too polite to say it. There are such differences among the schools that applying to all of them is not especially rational, unless the goal is just to get into an Ivy and/or show that you can kick ass with admissions departments.

If I was a teen living in NoVa going to TJ, I would definitely apply to numerous schools. Your peers are virtually all as smart as you and her race puts her at a disadvantage as far as admissions go. It's not like she was the the standout student in a mediocre school, they're all so talented and smart.

If this child was a white, black or hispanic student the posts would be completely different and that is the sad reality of DCUM.

I beg to differ. As a white immigrant, I wonder if my child's story will be deemed equally compelling just because we don't look very different from the despised "whitey"

Get over yourself and self-pity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP has a point. Many people familiar with the Ivies and similar schools look at someone's applying and gaining admission to all of them as a "Stupid Pet Trick," even if they are too polite to say it. There are such differences among the schools that applying to all of them is not especially rational, unless the goal is just to get into an Ivy and/or show that you can kick ass with admissions departments.

If I was a teen living in NoVa going to TJ, I would definitely apply to numerous schools. Your peers are virtually all as smart as you and her race puts her at a disadvantage as far as admissions go. It's not like she was the the standout student in a mediocre school, they're all so talented and smart.

If this child was a white, black or hispanic student the posts would be completely different and that is the sad reality of DCUM.

I beg to differ. As a white immigrant, I wonder if my child's story will be deemed equally compelling just because we don't look very different from the despised "whitey"

Dear "Whitey",

If your kid has the same credentials I will find it equally compelling. However, your child will first of all need to have the same credentials and academic and EC record. Ok?

-Not "Whitey".

+1

[Anonymous]

The british system is better in that you can't apply to both Oxford & Cambridge.

[Anonymous]

to OP - haven't had time to read all the responses, but you are correct in noticing a pattern. Many admissions directors get very excited when they see a "first generation" college applicant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The british system is better in that you can't apply to both Oxford & Cambridge.

I don't see how that's better. Limits choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Applying to all 8 Iviies means that the parents aren't concerned about fit or major or experience or anything else, except the brand name. They're looking for whatever brand name they can get. It's social climbing and grasping and pushy. At least the kid has a choice, now. Good for her

LOL.

Both parents are engineers from Bangalore. This means that they were people of means before they came to this country. College admissions in India to elite engineering colleges is much more competitive than in the US. Their kid did not go to a private HS. She got into TJ on her merit and aced it there. Look at her records - 8 Ivies and 6 highly ranked universities wanted her, and she competed with thousands of brilliant applicants from around the world to get acceptances. Not in one, not in two but all 14 schools!

They have already arrived, already rich and already high on the social ladder. I am willing to bet that their education, economic status, HHI, kid's achievement is already much higher than the PP's.

She has more choices in her schooling than most of the world will ever have. And if her motivation was to show all of us how brilliant she is - well she has proved her point without saying a word.

Yes - good for her.

Haters gonna hate!

You're as trashy as they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The british system is better in that you can't apply to both Oxford & Cambridge.

How is that better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The TJ student who got in is Indian-American and a standout student even in TJ. She was smart to apply to all 8 Ivy schools because we know that the admissions criteria for Asians is more stringent than any other racial group. There is no Affirmative Action for Asians.

Considering that both parents are engineers from Bangalore - she probably had the finances to apply to multiple colleges, which she did.

While I applaud her getting into all the colleges she applied to (14 in all) - I did feel disheartened as an Asian parent, to see how much our brightest Asian students have to hedge their bets.

Now that she has the options, she can decide where to go. The colleges think that she is a good student to add to their student body, now she has to decide which college is the best match for her. Academically, she can nail it where ever she goes.

This. She/her family paid all the admissions fees, so who cares? It's expensive to apply to all those schools, but if her family wants to spend the money that way, fine. It's not like her fees were paid with taxpayer money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes sense for a kid to apply to MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, and Georgia Tech. Or Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, and Swarthmore. Or maybe Brown, Oberlin, and Reed. These groups of schools all have qualities that would attract similar students.

But the eight Ivies plus MIT and Stanford are not interchangeable. A kid for whom UPenn would be a good match would probably be very unhappy at Dartmouth and vice versa. I would tell my own child to figure out what he wanted in a school before sending out applications to any and all. What would happen if the child only got into the one Ivy that would not at all suit that child? Would the student just go to any Ivy just because it's an Ivy?

Really, who cares? In the end, the kid will only enroll at one school. Most kids will flourish at a wide range of schools.

The point is that applying to all shows a lack of research into what kind of school would be best for a particular child. What majors is a child interested in? Does the child like a big school or a small one? City, suburb, or rural area? I'd make sure my child thought about the answers to these and a lot of other questions before applying and not wait until the crunch is on in April to make a hurried decision before 1 May.

Some kids can make any school/geographic area work for them, depending on their maturity and personality, so "fit" isn't that big of a deal. Besides, we're talking about choosing between elite schools here -- not a bunch of random colleges that might indeed have serious resource problems in specific study areas.