The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants

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Anonymous wrote:But why apply to every single elite school?

because she can great for her. and btw she also created an app

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But why apply to every single elite school?

Because they can. Those children owe no one any explanation. Until there is a law forbidding submission to all the Ivys, they can do what they want. Guaranteed they are not somewhere whining and moping because DCUM is upset they applied to all the Ivy schools. I applaud them.

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I don't know. This piece leads to some kind of bizarre hypotheses:
http://money.cnn.com/interactive/pf/college/ivy-league-schools/index.html?iid=HP_River

You tell me what these schools are looking for. "Look, this year we have a pair of Serbo-Croatian siamese twins who are also adopted. And a juggler. We have to have a juggler."

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Anonymous wrote:It makes sense for a kid to apply to MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, and Georgia Tech. Or Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, and Swarthmore. Or maybe Brown, Oberlin, and Reed. These groups of schools all have qualities that would attract similar students.

But the eight Ivies plus MIT and Stanford are not interchangeable. A kid for whom UPenn would be a good match would probably be very unhappy at Dartmouth and vice versa. I would tell my own child to figure out what he wanted in a school before sending out applications to any and all. What would happen if the child only got into the one Ivy that would not at all suit that child? Would the student just go to any Ivy just because it's an Ivy?

Really, who cares? In the end, the kid will only enroll at one school. Most kids will flourish at a wide range of schools.

The point is that applying to all shows a lack of research into what kind of school would be best for a particular child. What majors is a child interested in? Does the child like a big school or a small one? City, suburb, or rural area? I'd make sure my child thought about the answers to these and a lot of other questions before applying and not wait until the crunch is on in April to make a hurried decision before 1 May.

+1. Well said.

So, you are worried they will wind up at the wrong Ivy and somehow their life will go astray?

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Successful immigrant groups will end up like the Jews -- the subject of jealousy and hatred.

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Anonymous wrote:It makes sense for a kid to apply to MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, and Georgia Tech. Or Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, and Swarthmore. Or maybe Brown, Oberlin, and Reed. These groups of schools all have qualities that would attract similar students.

But the eight Ivies plus MIT and Stanford are not interchangeable. A kid for whom UPenn would be a good match would probably be very unhappy at Dartmouth and vice versa. I would tell my own child to figure out what he wanted in a school before sending out applications to any and all. What would happen if the child only got into the one Ivy that would not at all suit that child? Would the student just go to any Ivy just because it's an Ivy?

Really, who cares? In the end, the kid will only enroll at one school. Most kids will flourish at a wide range of schools.

The point is that applying to all shows a lack of research into what kind of school would be best for a particular child. What majors is a child interested in? Does the child like a big school or a small one? City, suburb, or rural area? I'd make sure my child thought about the answers to these and a lot of other questions before applying and not wait until the crunch is on in April to make a hurried decision before 1 May.

+1. Well said.

It's not well said-it's bs. I applied to very different colleges because I wasn't sure what I wanted when I started the process. Then over the next 8 months I got to visit more schools and think more about what I wanted so that by the time acceptances came in I had a better idea. These are kids-giving them a little extra time to figure things out is not a bad thing. Hell-I even used that approach for graduate school (on a much smaller scale of course). Until I really had a chance to do in depth visits with the departments and faculty I'd be working with I didn't know the best fit. Somehow I ended up at schools that worked well for me even though they ,ay not have been my first choice when I was applying.

I wouldencourage my kids to apply to a variety of schools if they wanted more time to explore their options.

[Anonymous]

My husband (white, and his family has lived in the US for at least 2 generations back) applied to all the ivies and his in-state uni. His parents said they would only pay for him to go to an in-state uni, or an ivy. There are many reasons, that being an example of one, why a student would apply to all of the ivies. Btw, those kids in the articles sound amazing and I bet worked their tails off to get in a position to receive those acceptances (unlike DH who basically coasted there b/c of ivy-educated parents and his private school).

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Anonymous wrote:My husband (white, and his family has lived in the US for at least 2 generations back) applied to all the ivies and his in-state uni. His parents said they would only pay for him to go to an in-state uni, or an ivy. There are many reasons, that being an example of one, why a student would apply to all of the ivies. Btw, those kids in the articles sound amazing and I bet worked their tails off to get in a position to receive those acceptances (unlike DH who basically coasted there b/c of ivy-educated parents and his private school).

Passive aggressive.

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Applying to all 8 Iviies means that the parents aren't concerned about fit or major or experience or anything else, except the brand name. They're looking for whatever brand name they can get. It's social climbing and grasping and pushy. At least the kid has a choice, now. Good for her

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If I were one of her classmates if be pissed that she applied to all those schools knowing full well she'd probably get in. While I don't believe colleges have exact quotas for certain high schools, she may very we'll have taken a spot that would have otherwise gone to another TJ student who really wants to go to that school.

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This is nice news for this girl. She deserves all the praise she's getting and it's nice to have so many options. In the end she can only choose to attend one college, and once she enrolls it won't matter too much -- she'll move on to the usual stresses and challenges of being a college freshman. I say let her have her 15 minutes of fame.

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Anonymous wrote:Applying to all 8 Iviies means that the parents aren't concerned about fit or major or experience or anything else, except the brand name. They're looking for whatever brand name they can get. It's social climbing and grasping and pushy. At least the kid has a choice, now. Good for her [/quote

Why is it so hard to just say. Wow that's impressive?

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Anonymous wrote:OP has a point. Many people familiar with the Ivies and similar schools look at someone's applying and gaining admission to all of them as a "Stupid Pet Trick," even if they are too polite to say it. There are such differences among the schools that applying to all of them is not especially rational, unless the goal is just to get into an Ivy and/or show that you can kick ass with admissions departments.

If I was a teen living in NoVa going to TJ, I would definitely apply to numerous schools. Your peers are virtually all as smart as you and her race puts her at a disadvantage as far as admissions go. It's not like she was the the standout student in a mediocre school, they're all so talented and smart.

If this child was a white, black or hispanic student the posts would be completely different and that is the sad reality of DCUM.

I beg to differ. As a white immigrant, I wonder if my child's story will be deemed equally compelling just because we don't look very different from the despised "whitey"

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Anonymous wrote:My husband (white, and his family has lived in the US for at least 2 generations back) applied to all the ivies and his in-state uni. His parents said they would only pay for him to go to an in-state uni, or an ivy. There are many reasons, that being an example of one, why a student would apply to all of the ivies. Btw, those kids in the articles sound amazing and I bet worked their tails off to get in a position to receive those acceptances (unlike DH who basically coasted there b/c of ivy-educated parents and his private school).

Passive aggressive.

what is passive about my post? i tell dh this whenever where he went to college comes up

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Anonymous wrote:Successful immigrant groups will end up like the Jews -- the subject of jealousy and hatred.

I dunno - I'm supposedly from a 'successful immigrant' group but it seems Ashkenazi jews are just a level above that my people can't get to. The latter have the intelligence and ability to 'blend in' with white people.