Nanny with child not dressed for cold weather

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to call anyone crazy, but...

oh... so it's not crazy to think that because a child is blond, has fine straight hair and blue eyes it's impossible for her mother be black?

Actually, blond hair and blue eyes are recessive traits, so it is possible for a mother with dark skin/hair/eyes but a blond in her ancestry to have a blond, blue eyed child. In fact, it is possible for TWO dark-complected parents to have a very fair child. It's the reverse that can't happen.

I disagree. If two parents have light complexion, they can still produce offspring with dark complexions. The light skinned parents can have dark skin/hair/eyed child.

your skin complex doesn't matter.

genetics says that if you have darker or lighter people in your heritage you have a few chances to have a darker/lighter child than yourself.

what about adoption? you can have a child of any color!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how did OP know it was the nanny...

OP here. It was a dark-skinned, African-American woman carrying a white child with long blond hair. She was walking with another African-American woman who was pushing a white baby in a carriage. This was in the middle of the afternoon. Call me crazy, but I assumed that they were nannies.

I won't call you crazy.

I'll call you IGNORANT.

have you heard the word ADOPTION before?

Did you know that some parents ask IN LAWs or FRIENDS to watch their children?

You're ridiculous and sick to assume that just because the hair texture is different and the skin color seems different their relationship is employer-employee.

YOU'RE PATHETIC!

It is not ignorant or sick to assume it was a nanny. In this area it is very common to have an ethnic nanny and there is nothing offensive about thinking that. It absolutely could have been the mother but it also could have been a nanny. Lighten up.

it's sick and ignorant to assume that the color of the child not matching the color of the adult means that they're not relatives.

[Anonymous]

Is the nanny hot ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how did OP know it was the nanny...

OP here. It was a dark-skinned, African-American woman carrying a white child with long blond hair. She was walking with another African-American woman who was pushing a white baby in a carriage. This was in the middle of the afternoon. Call me crazy, but I assumed that they were nannies.

I opened the door, you walked in-get ready for serious flames.

Thanks for taking this thread in a totally wrong direction. I'm sure you are justing loving it and having a blast.

Take a look at 14:04 and I think you'll see my point-unless you are unable to.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I'm the PP who wondered how the OP knew the person in question was a nanny. Did the OP see the nanny beat the child, speak harshly to the child, etc. No, the all knowing OP had to post that they didn't think that the person they assumed to be the nanny had the child dressed properly. Guess what, nannies are getting pretty sick and tired of the nanny bashing that goes on here. So, yes, I led OP into a trap that she actually set for herself-commenting on something that was none of her business with basically no information about the situation, just baseless assumptions so she could congratulate herself on being an upstanding citizen. Subsequently, another nut case boasts about a bunch of people that are again presumed to be nannies standing around and SMOKING with their charges-I've been a nanny for years and I've never seen such a thing. If you want to help, help. If you want to make yourself feel better about yourself, masturbate.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I'm the PP who wondered how the OP knew the person in question was a nanny. Did the OP see the nanny beat the child, speak harshly to the child, etc. No, the all knowing OP had to post that they didn't think that the person they assumed to be the nanny had the child dressed properly. Guess what, nannies are getting pretty sick and tired of the nanny bashing that goes on here. So, yes, I led OP into a trap that she actually set for herself-commenting on something that was none of her business with basically no information about the situation, just baseless assumptions so she could congratulate herself on being an upstanding citizen. Subsequently, another nut case boasts about a bunch of people that are again presumed to be nannies standing around and SMOKING with their charges-I've been a nanny for years and I've never seen such a thing. If you want to help, help. If you want to make yourself feel better about yourself, masturbate.

It wasn't quite a "trap" as it seems only one, maybe two, posters thought that OP was off-base for her nanny assumption. Several people agreed that there could be a good explanation for why the child was seemingly underdressed, and several people said it wasn't OP's business to say something, but it seemed like most people knew exactly where she was coming from on thinking she was a nanny.

I don't understand why people get so up in arms about stuff like this. No one is saying that all nannies are bad, or even that THIS nanny was bad. OP saw something and wondered what others would have done in the same instance. You wouldn't have said anything. Some people would. The end.

Your tone and your hostility don't do other nannies any justice, either. If you are trying to stick up for nannies and change people's assumptions, you probably want to try a different tactic.

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, I'm the PP who wondered how the OP knew the person in question was a nanny. Did the OP see the nanny beat the child, speak harshly to the child, etc. No, the all knowing OP had to post that they didn't think that the person they assumed to be the nanny had the child dressed properly. Guess what, nannies are getting pretty sick and tired of the nanny bashing that goes on here. So, yes, I led OP into a trap that she actually set for herself-commenting on something that was none of her business with basically no information about the situation, just baseless assumptions so she could congratulate herself on being an upstanding citizen. Subsequently, another nut case boasts about a bunch of people that are again presumed to be nannies standing around and SMOKING with their charges-I've been a nanny for years and I've never seen such a thing. If you want to help, help. If you want to make yourself feel better about yourself, masturbate.

It wasn't quite a "trap" as it seems only one, maybe two, posters thought that OP was off-base for her nanny assumption. Several people agreed that there could be a good explanation for why the child was seemingly underdressed, and several people said it wasn't OP's business to say something, but it seemed like most people knew exactly where she was coming from on thinking she was a nanny.

I don't understand why people get so up in arms about stuff like this. No one is saying that all nannies are bad, or even that THIS nanny was bad. OP saw something and wondered what others would have done in the same instance. You wouldn't have said anything. Some people would. The end.

Your tone and your hostility don't do other nannies any justice, either. If you are trying to stick up for nannies and change people's assumptions, you probably want to try a different tactic.

First of all, you're right-the OP complained on General Parenting instead of the Nanny forum which I have advocated in the past. However, if you read the entire thread there were just as many posters complaining about the assumption that the person in question was a nanny as there were defending the OP. Again, the OP didn't see a child being abused, but, in their opinion, didn't think the child was dressed properly for the weather. Silly posts like these do nothing but to further the bad nanny stereotype, something "good" nannies really have a problem with when they see other people posting about why they can't get a good nanny for 40 hours a week at $300 a week. I'm not hostile (not to my respectful employers who value me as I value them) but I am annoyed with people like you who would never in a million years approach a person who you ASSUMED to be a child's mother and tell them you didn't think their child was dressed properly for the weather.

[Anonymous]

I'm a mother, not a nanny. My youngest used to take his shoes and socks off in about ten seconds. I got plenty of comments from strangers about his bare feet. It has nothing to do with being a nanny. The comments didn't bother me, either. I believe it takes a village.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you americans think like this because you think the world revolves around your belly button.

you have no idea of what goes on a couple miles away from your home.

mixed families are everywhere and even the most dark woman has 4 chances in 64 to have a white child if the father of the child is mixed race.

yes, some of you are ignorant and you should not be offended. you should go to google and instead of search for the new trend in strollers, try to read about genetics and different cultural habits.

no need to applaud.

Shut up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"A couple of miles away from my home" it is more likely that OP was right and that the woman in question was a nanny. Google couldn't help us determine whether that's true, anyway.

I'll assume this is not a joke and you're really stupid.

now a days people don't know their neighbors that well.
i.e. my next door neighbor didn't know we had a single mother in our neighborhood. when I told her we had she shouted I WONDER HOW SHE CAN AFFORD LIVING HERE. no need to tell we're not friends anymore.

no. she doesn't know if it is the nanny just using google, you're right. BUUUUUUUUT, "googling" can teach you A LOT about other culture's habits in parenting and childcare.

got it or I'll have to draw it?

Google some grammar lessons.

[Anonymous]

OP, to answer your original question, I don't think anything you could say would really help.

If you knew this nanny/mother, or they were a neighbor, then perhaps you could say something out of concern. But to an absolute stranger? I doubt that would do any good anyway. You can't follow this nanny/mother home and see their other parenting decisions and errors. If they are making poor ones about clothing, who knows what other "mistakes" they might be making?

Sad, but true. Obviously, it was cold outside. The person carrying the child could feel that for themselves. You can't make them suddenly care more or make better decisions. Unless the child is in real danger, I think you have to mind your own business and perhaps give a look of concern. But truly helping? I don't think a stranger would take kindly to that kind of advice.

[Anonymous]

Genetics and social assumptions aside...

I'm a nanny and have had a few kids that refused to wear hats and mittens. I layer their clothes and put on a coat. I suppose I could just stay in or let them scream when I put on hat and gloves, but both of those options seem a little more cruel than just letting their hands get a little chilly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genetics and social assumptions aside...

I'm a nanny and have had a few kids that refused to wear hats and mittens. I layer their clothes and put on a coat. I suppose I could just stay in or let them scream when I put on hat and gloves, but both of those options seem a little more cruel than just letting their hands get a little chilly.

You don't know if that was the nanny or a babysitter. I was mistaken for a nanny unless I wore obvious pricey items ---- that Louis Vitton bag casually tossed on mulch at a playground along with other items dispelled the myth. Some service people coming to the house have mistaken me for help- housekeeper, cleaner, maid.

Yesterday I saw a dad with tots NOT wearing coats and 1 had a t shirt on and the other had the stomach showing. Called him daddy and then he proceeded to cross a parking lot sans hand holding. It was cold outside. Dad was toasty in a coat.

Nanny might be the last to risk illness for the child since s/he is the one who will be with the sick child for the majority of the waking hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"A couple of miles away from my home" it is more likely that OP was right and that the woman in question was a nanny. Google couldn't help us determine whether that's true, anyway.

I'll assume this is not a joke and you're really stupid.

now a days people don't know their neighbors that well.
i.e. my next door neighbor didn't know we had a single mother in our neighborhood. when I told her we had she shouted I WONDER HOW SHE CAN AFFORD LIVING HERE. no need to tell we're not friends anymore.

no. she doesn't know if it is the nanny just using google, you're right. BUUUUUUUUT, "googling" can teach you A LOT about other culture's habits in parenting and childcare.

got it or I'll have to draw it?

Google some grammar lessons.

I've been taking them for the past 2 years.

How long would YOU take to learn a fourth language in Advanced level?
You're Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, to answer your original question, I don't think anything you could say would really help.

If you knew this nanny/mother, or they were a neighbor, then perhaps you could say something out of concern. But to an absolute stranger? I doubt that would do any good anyway. You can't follow this nanny/mother home and see their other parenting decisions and errors. If they are making poor ones about clothing, who knows what other "mistakes" they might be making?

Sad, but true. Obviously, it was cold outside. The person carrying the child could feel that for themselves. You can't make them suddenly care more or make better decisions. Unless the child is in real danger, I think you have to mind your own business and perhaps give a look of concern. But truly helping? I don't think a stranger would take kindly to that kind of advice.

I agree. Anyone who either doesn't care or doesn't have enough good judgment to dress a baby properly probably won't listen to any advice. Too bad you don't know who she works for - then again, I wonder about the judgment of the parents too. After all, they hired her.

Sadly, it's the baby that's at danger here, despite all the women who are trying to turn this into some sort of crusade about skin color.