Clueless kids on bus

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Anonymous wrote:So my DS came home today and said that he had the distinct pleasure (not) of sitting behind two AAP 3rd grade girls who were crowing about the fact that they were in the "smart" classes at their center school. Apparently they were arguing with another girl, saying they were smarter than her because she is not in AAP.

Because my son is a 6th grader at this school (Gen Ed), he has heard these kinds of remarks countless times and knows just to roll his eyes at the ridiculous kids who blather on like this. But he's a patrol and he felt bad for the girl they were arguing with, so he stuck up for her and told the other two to pipe down, and that they were wrong.

Parents of AAP kids: please stop telling your kids they are "smarter" than the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, making them even more insufferable than usual.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the AAP classes at your school and make sure these kids know that they aren't any better, smarter, or more special than the Gen Ed kids. Please ask the administration to stop treating them as such.

FCPS: please do away with centers and drastically cut back AAP admittance, or else open it up to all. You are doing our communities a disservice by dividing up kids in this way.

I'm posting this on both the AAP and VA School forums because it's an issue that affects all kids in this area. Unfortunately.

While I understand your feeling and agree that the AAP kids should learn to be respectful, you're being ridiculous by claiming those kids aren't smarter than gen ed kids, at least in a statistical sense.
Some may claim that AAP kids are not that smart since given the sheer volume of AAP admission. However, if your kids couldn't even get into this allegedly highly inflated program, there is a big chance that they're not bright at all.

This is why some AAP kids behave the way they do. I know kids in Gen Ed who are just as smart or smarter than some AAP kids. Case in point, DC and two other kids in his class were the highest performers in his second grade class--highest math group and reading group throughout the year. DC got into AAP, they didn't. There is no way those kids are "not bright at all." There are three of DC's AAP friends/classmates who get tutoring to help them keep up. When your kids get to high school and you see Gen Ed kids who are doing as well or better than your kid, you'll get how ridiculous your statement is. Until then, it's unfortunate that you might instill this way of thinking in your kid.

Yes, it is very possible that these kids are not bright at all even if they aced gen ed math class. Being smart is about aptitude of understanding/learning stuffs that are beyond most people (similar age)'s reach. Gen ed classes don't fall into that category.
Again, not all AAP kids are smart. But it's highly unlikely your kids are smart if they can't even get in the AAP program.

It seems that many non-AAP parents confused "smart" with "not dumb". If their kids are not dumb, they claim they're smart. They don't know (or pretend not to know) there is still something in between.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my DS came home today and said that he had the distinct pleasure (not) of sitting behind two AAP 3rd grade girls who were crowing about the fact that they were in the "smart" classes at their center school. Apparently they were arguing with another girl, saying they were smarter than her because she is not in AAP.

Because my son is a 6th grader at this school (Gen Ed), he has heard these kinds of remarks countless times and knows just to roll his eyes at the ridiculous kids who blather on like this. But he's a patrol and he felt bad for the girl they were arguing with, so he stuck up for her and told the other two to pipe down, and that they were wrong.

Parents of AAP kids: please stop telling your kids they are "smarter" than the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, making them even more insufferable than usual.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the AAP classes at your school and make sure these kids know that they aren't any better, smarter, or more special than the Gen Ed kids. Please ask the administration to stop treating them as such.

FCPS: please do away with centers and drastically cut back AAP admittance, or else open it up to all. You are doing our communities a disservice by dividing up kids in this way.

I'm posting this on both the AAP and VA School forums because it's an issue that affects all kids in this area. Unfortunately.

While I understand your feeling and agree that the AAP kids should learn to be respectful, you're being ridiculous by claiming those kids aren't smarter than gen ed kids, at least in a statistical sense.
Some may claim that AAP kids are not that smart since given the sheer volume of AAP admission. However, if your kids couldn't even get into this allegedly highly inflated program, there is a big chance that they're not bright at all.

This is why some AAP kids behave the way they do. I know kids in Gen Ed who are just as smart or smarter than some AAP kids. Case in point, DC and two other kids in his class were the highest performers in his second grade class--highest math group and reading group throughout the year. DC got into AAP, they didn't. There is no way those kids are "not bright at all." There are three of DC's AAP friends/classmates who get tutoring to help them keep up. When your kids get to high school and you see Gen Ed kids who are doing as well or better than your kid, you'll get how ridiculous your statement is. Until then, it's unfortunate that you might instill this way of thinking in your kid.

Yes, it is very possible that these kids are not bright at all even if they aced gen ed math class. Being smart is about aptitude of understanding/learning stuffs that are beyond most people (similar age)'s reach. Gen ed classes don't fall into that category.
Again, not all AAP kids are smart. But it's highly unlikely your kids are smart if they can't even get in the AAP program.

It seems that many non-AAP parents confused "smart" with "not dumb". If their kids are not dumb, they claim they're smart. They don't know (or pretend not to know) there is still something in between.

You and the PP have written two of the most venomous posts yet on this thread. Truly disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my DS came home today and said that he had the distinct pleasure (not) of sitting behind two AAP 3rd grade girls who were crowing about the fact that they were in the "smart" classes at their center school. Apparently they were arguing with another girl, saying they were smarter than her because she is not in AAP.

Because my son is a 6th grader at this school (Gen Ed), he has heard these kinds of remarks countless times and knows just to roll his eyes at the ridiculous kids who blather on like this. But he's a patrol and he felt bad for the girl they were arguing with, so he stuck up for her and told the other two to pipe down, and that they were wrong.

Parents of AAP kids: please stop telling your kids they are "smarter" than the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, making them even more insufferable than usual.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the AAP classes at your school and make sure these kids know that they aren't any better, smarter, or more special than the Gen Ed kids. Please ask the administration to stop treating them as such.

FCPS: please do away with centers and drastically cut back AAP admittance, or else open it up to all. You are doing our communities a disservice by dividing up kids in this way.

I'm posting this on both the AAP and VA School forums because it's an issue that affects all kids in this area. Unfortunately.

While I understand your feeling and agree that the AAP kids should learn to be respectful, you're being ridiculous by claiming those kids aren't smarter than gen ed kids, at least in a statistical sense.
Some may claim that AAP kids are not that smart since given the sheer volume of AAP admission. However, if your kids couldn't even get into this allegedly highly inflated program, there is a big chance that they're not bright at all.

This is why some AAP kids behave the way they do. I know kids in Gen Ed who are just as smart or smarter than some AAP kids. Case in point, DC and two other kids in his class were the highest performers in his second grade class--highest math group and reading group throughout the year. DC got into AAP, they didn't. There is no way those kids are "not bright at all." There are three of DC's AAP friends/classmates who get tutoring to help them keep up. When your kids get to high school and you see Gen Ed kids who are doing as well or better than your kid, you'll get how ridiculous your statement is. Until then, it's unfortunate that you might instill this way of thinking in your kid.

Yes, it is very possible that these kids are not bright at all even if they aced gen ed math class. Being smart is about aptitude of understanding/learning stuffs that are beyond most people (similar age)'s reach. Gen ed classes don't fall into that category.
Again, not all AAP kids are smart. But it's highly unlikely your kids are smart if they can't even get in the AAP program.

It seems that many non-AAP parents confused "smart" with "not dumb". If their kids are not dumb, they claim they're smart. They don't know (or pretend not to know) there is still something in between.

You and the PP have written two of the most venomous posts yet on this thread. Truly disgusting.

Truth hurts, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Go ahead and claim that your kids are smarter than mine. Have your kids claim it as well as it makes no difference.
My child is self motivated and very, very driven to do well. He works extremely hard and I do not have to do a thing to encourage that drive. He will succeed beyond all the rest.
Drive and motivation trumps smarts every single time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my DS came home today and said that he had the distinct pleasure (not) of sitting behind two AAP 3rd grade girls who were crowing about the fact that they were in the "smart" classes at their center school. Apparently they were arguing with another girl, saying they were smarter than her because she is not in AAP.

Because my son is a 6th grader at this school (Gen Ed), he has heard these kinds of remarks countless times and knows just to roll his eyes at the ridiculous kids who blather on like this. But he's a patrol and he felt bad for the girl they were arguing with, so he stuck up for her and told the other two to pipe down, and that they were wrong.

Parents of AAP kids: please stop telling your kids they are "smarter" than the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, making them even more insufferable than usual.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the AAP classes at your school and make sure these kids know that they aren't any better, smarter, or more special than the Gen Ed kids. Please ask the administration to stop treating them as such.

FCPS: please do away with centers and drastically cut back AAP admittance, or else open it up to all. You are doing our communities a disservice by dividing up kids in this way.

I'm posting this on both the AAP and VA School forums because it's an issue that affects all kids in this area. Unfortunately.

While I understand your feeling and agree that the AAP kids should learn to be respectful, you're being ridiculous by claiming those kids aren't smarter than gen ed kids, at least in a statistical sense.
Some may claim that AAP kids are not that smart since given the sheer volume of AAP admission. However, if your kids couldn't even get into this allegedly highly inflated program, there is a big chance that they're not bright at all.

This is why some AAP kids behave the way they do. I know kids in Gen Ed who are just as smart or smarter than some AAP kids. Case in point, DC and two other kids in his class were the highest performers in his second grade class--highest math group and reading group throughout the year. DC got into AAP, they didn't. There is no way those kids are "not bright at all." There are three of DC's AAP friends/classmates who get tutoring to help them keep up. When your kids get to high school and you see Gen Ed kids who are doing as well or better than your kid, you'll get how ridiculous your statement is. Until then, it's unfortunate that you might instill this way of thinking in your kid.

Yes, it is very possible that these kids are not bright at all even if they aced gen ed math class. Being smart is about aptitude of understanding/learning stuffs that are beyond most people (similar age)'s reach. Gen ed classes don't fall into that category.
Again, not all AAP kids are smart. But it's highly unlikely your kids are smart if they can't even get in the AAP program.

It seems that many non-AAP parents confused "smart" with "not dumb". If their kids are not dumb, they claim they're smart. They don't know (or pretend not to know) there is still something in between.

You and the PP have written two of the most venomous posts yet on this thread. Truly disgusting.

It's more disgusting than some jealous non-AAP parents who'd bring down the entire AAP program just because their children are not smart enough?

[Anonymous]

My DD is at an AAP center and when I hear these types of stories, I am always left wondering "what are these people talking about." I am sure that there are kids in her class that are just little snots and choose the "smart" taunt instead of something else. But for the most part, most kids in AAP or GE are not bullies and would not behave like this. OP, don't extrapolate to all the AAP kids (or Asian kids, or lower SES kids or whatever). If you want to make a point that AAP kids are meaner and less kind than their age cohort, I think you will need different data (or even anecdotes). One of my kid's BFF is another AAP kid at her center school. Her other BFF is a GE girl from her base school. I am sure her experience is not out of the norm and most kids are not spending their time trying to one up other kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD is at an AAP center and when I hear these types of stories, I am always left wondering "what are these people talking about." I am sure that there are kids in her class that are just little snots and choose the "smart" taunt instead of something else. But for the most part, most kids in AAP or GE are not bullies and would not behave like this. OP, don't extrapolate to all the AAP kids (or Asian kids, or lower SES kids or whatever). If you want to make a point that AAP kids are meaner and less kind than their age cohort, I think you will need different data (or even anecdotes). One of my kid's BFF is another AAP kid at her center school. Her other BFF is a GE girl from her base school. I am sure her experience is not out of the norm and most kids are not spending their time trying to one up other kids.

c'mon, surely you figured out the incident was a flimsy pretext to go off yet again on the AAP program -- she said shut it down or open it up to everyone -- and referred to AAP ids as insufferable. This OP has a real burr under her saddle about AAP; if it wasn't this incident it'd be something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my DS came home today and said that he had the distinct pleasure (not) of sitting behind two AAP 3rd grade girls who were crowing about the fact that they were in the "smart" classes at their center school. Apparently they were arguing with another girl, saying they were smarter than her because she is not in AAP.

Because my son is a 6th grader at this school (Gen Ed), he has heard these kinds of remarks countless times and knows just to roll his eyes at the ridiculous kids who blather on like this. But he's a patrol and he felt bad for the girl they were arguing with, so he stuck up for her and told the other two to pipe down, and that they were wrong.

Parents of AAP kids: please stop telling your kids they are "smarter" than the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, making them even more insufferable than usual.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the AAP classes at your school and make sure these kids know that they aren't any better, smarter, or more special than the Gen Ed kids. Please ask the administration to stop treating them as such.

FCPS: please do away with centers and drastically cut back AAP admittance, or else open it up to all. You are doing our communities a disservice by dividing up kids in this way.

I'm posting this on both the AAP and VA School forums because it's an issue that affects all kids in this area. Unfortunately.

While I understand your feeling and agree that the AAP kids should learn to be respectful, you're being ridiculous by claiming those kids aren't smarter than gen ed kids, at least in a statistical sense.
Some may claim that AAP kids are not that smart since given the sheer volume of AAP admission. However, if your kids couldn't even get into this allegedly highly inflated program, there is a big chance that they're not bright at all.

This is why some AAP kids behave the way they do. I know kids in Gen Ed who are just as smart or smarter than some AAP kids. Case in point, DC and two other kids in his class were the highest performers in his second grade class--highest math group and reading group throughout the year. DC got into AAP, they didn't. There is no way those kids are "not bright at all." There are three of DC's AAP friends/classmates who get tutoring to help them keep up. When your kids get to high school and you see Gen Ed kids who are doing as well or better than your kid, you'll get how ridiculous your statement is. Until then, it's unfortunate that you might instill this way of thinking in your kid.

Yes, it is very possible that these kids are not bright at all even if they aced gen ed math class. Being smart is about aptitude of understanding/learning stuffs that are beyond most people (similar age)'s reach. Gen ed classes don't fall into that category.
Again, not all AAP kids are smart. But it's highly unlikely your kids are smart if they can't even get in the AAP program.

If you read a simple post that clearly says my child is in AAP and conclude that my child did not get into AAP, I can see why you have such a simplistic view that because AAP vs Gen Ed kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is at an AAP center and when I hear these types of stories, I am always left wondering "what are these people talking about." I am sure that there are kids in her class that are just little snots and choose the "smart" taunt instead of something else. But for the most part, most kids in AAP or GE are not bullies and would not behave like this. OP, don't extrapolate to all the AAP kids (or Asian kids, or lower SES kids or whatever). If you want to make a point that AAP kids are meaner and less kind than their age cohort, I think you will need different data (or even anecdotes). One of my kid's BFF is another AAP kid at her center school. Her other BFF is a GE girl from her base school. I am sure her experience is not out of the norm and most kids are not spending their time trying to one up other kids.

c'mon, surely you figured out the incident was a flimsy pretext to go off yet again on the AAP program -- she said shut it down or open it up to everyone -- and referred to AAP ids as insufferable. This OP has a real burr under her saddle about AAP; if it wasn't this incident it'd be something else.

I see. So I suppose you call every single anecdote related here on DCUM fictional? Or is it only the ones you don't like that you discredit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is at an AAP center and when I hear these types of stories, I am always left wondering "what are these people talking about." I am sure that there are kids in her class that are just little snots and choose the "smart" taunt instead of something else. But for the most part, most kids in AAP or GE are not bullies and would not behave like this. OP, don't extrapolate to all the AAP kids (or Asian kids, or lower SES kids or whatever). If you want to make a point that AAP kids are meaner and less kind than their age cohort, I think you will need different data (or even anecdotes). One of my kid's BFF is another AAP kid at her center school. Her other BFF is a GE girl from her base school. I am sure her experience is not out of the norm and most kids are not spending their time trying to one up other kids.

c'mon, surely you figured out the incident was a flimsy pretext to go off yet again on the AAP program -- she said shut it down or open it up to everyone -- and referred to AAP ids as insufferable. This OP has a real burr under her saddle about AAP; if it wasn't this incident it'd be something else.

I see. So I suppose you call every single anecdote related here on DCUM fictional? Or is it only the ones you don't like that you discredit?

You have reading comprehension issues. The poster didn't say the anecdote was fictional (although it certainly may be). She said it was a pretext or excuse for OP to launch into a familiar litany of complaints about AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is at an AAP center and when I hear these types of stories, I am always left wondering "what are these people talking about." I am sure that there are kids in her class that are just little snots and choose the "smart" taunt instead of something else. But for the most part, most kids in AAP or GE are not bullies and would not behave like this. OP, don't extrapolate to all the AAP kids (or Asian kids, or lower SES kids or whatever). If you want to make a point that AAP kids are meaner and less kind than their age cohort, I think you will need different data (or even anecdotes). One of my kid's BFF is another AAP kid at her center school. Her other BFF is a GE girl from her base school. I am sure her experience is not out of the norm and most kids are not spending their time trying to one up other kids.

c'mon, surely you figured out the incident was a flimsy pretext to go off yet again on the AAP program -- she said shut it down or open it up to everyone -- and referred to AAP ids as insufferable. This OP has a real burr under her saddle about AAP; if it wasn't this incident it'd be something else.

I see. So I suppose you call every single anecdote related here on DCUM fictional? Or is it only the ones you don't like that you discredit?

?? I didn't say it as fictional. My AAP kid has even complained to me of some of the mean girls, so could very well be true. I said it was a flimsy pretext to go off on yet another diatribe against the whole program. Shut it down because some 3d graders are mean? Bit of an overreaction, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why not tutor your kid so he can be in AAP programs also? Sorry but they are smarter and it's not a bad thing. They shouldn't be braggarts though.

Yeah. I really don't care how smart they are. Insulting other kids doesn't require intelligence. Time for some humility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So why not tutor your kid so he can be in AAP programs also? Sorry but they are smarter and it's not a bad thing. They shouldn't be braggarts though.

Yeah. I really don't care how smart they are. Insulting other kids doesn't require intelligence. Time for some humility.

FCPS must send out a memo: NO more mean girls!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why not tutor your kid so he can be in AAP programs also? Sorry but they are smarter and it's not a bad thing. They shouldn't be braggarts though.

Yeah. I really don't care how smart they are. Insulting other kids doesn't require intelligence. Time for some humility.

FCPS must send out a memo: NO more mean girls!

No, not FCPS. Parents need to ensure their kids can show humility no matter what it's about. Intelligence, wealth, athletic ability. The whole "I'm better than you" attitude gets really old, really fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why not tutor your kid so he can be in AAP programs also? Sorry but they are smarter and it's not a bad thing. They shouldn't be braggarts though.

Yeah. I really don't care how smart they are. Insulting other kids doesn't require intelligence. Time for some humility.

FCPS must send out a memo: NO more mean girls!

No, not FCPS. Parents need to ensure their kids can show humility no matter what it's about. Intelligence, wealth, athletic ability. The whole "I'm better than you" attitude gets really old, really fast.

good luck with that. It's Fairfax.