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Honestly, why don't people circumcise their sons in D.C.?
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Anonymous
| Rates are dropping, in line with progressive thinking. |
Anonymous
| One reason the rate dropped so much in California is that medi-cal (California's version of Medicaid) no longer pays for the procedure while private insurance still does. So there is a huge disparity among socio-economic classes. |
Anonymous
LOL, you call troll on anyone who disagrees with you? I said in my experience they were softer. Fact. And that they SEEMED more sensitive based on my observations - much more powerful male Os. But that just based on observations, not actual experiences. So yeah, I must be a troll. Why would you even debate this? LOL. |
Anonymous
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Because there are reasons not to; pp's have added a lot.
When I was pregnant and discussing it with DH, it seemed unnecessary after talking with others (including my doc). We decided not to. Haven't had any issues. Also, just personally, re: sex, DH is circ'd, but my prior LTR was not. I never had issues with sex becoming painful with previous guy. I have had to use lube with circ'd guys if sex takes awhile. I never felt that way with the non-circ'd guy and it just worked well. For DH, when he was circ'd, his frenulum was also removed; he has no idea what that feels like. I'm not writing eloquently, but I'm in a hurry and that's the best way I can describe it for now. Anyway, I like this site, but I found it after I'd already made the decision. http://www.intactamerica.org/ They also have a facebook (who doesn't, of course): https://www.facebook.com/intactamerica I can't remember where I got these. Not original, just some things I was reading about circumcision. About "foreskin:" 1. Both males and females are born with a “prepuse.” 2. In females it's the hood, in males the foreskin. 3. It protects the glans. In the case of females, it protects the extremity of the clitoris. In the case of males, it protects the extremity of the penis. About the foreskin in sex: The movement of the foreskin is unique. On the in-stroke of intercourse, considered from the point of view of its stationary outer layer, the inner layer rolls outward and applies itself to the vagina. The ridged band engages with the internal ridges of the vagina. On the out-stroke, that movement reverses. Depending on the various dimensions and techniques used, there is considerable variation from that basic pattern and the two sets of ridges may then rub over each other like clothes on an old-fashioned washboard. That might be painful for women if the foreskin were dry like the circumcised penis. Instead, the effect is pleasurable. The ridged band is in intimate contact with the labia minora rather than the vaginal walls, another kind of intimacy unavailable to the circumcised man. What is the “ridged band”? The ridged band is a ring of deeply corrugated or ridged mucous membrane lining the tip of the prepuce (foreskin). When the prepuce is retracted, the main part of the ridged band lies across the top and sides of the shaft of the penis. On the underside of the penis, the ridged band merges into the frenulum of the prepuce. Stretching of the accordion-like ridged band triggers important sexual reflexes and erogenous sensation. The ridged band is just as important, sexually, as the glans. Without a foreskin, the most sensitive part of the penis is the frenulum. The ridged band is gone, and for some men, when circumcised, the entire frenulum is also removed. |
Anonymous
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Ok, I'm a woman who has been with both. This is my experience.
- Both circ-ed and uncirc-ed look the same when erect. So it's really not big a deal, aesthetically speaking. - The head of an uncirc-ed penis is MUCH softer. I love going down on DH because the skin of the head is so silky and soft, and he's so sensitive that it doesn't take too long to make him climax. ExBFs who were circumcised usually took a lot longer to make climax orally, which made blow jobs much more work. - Sensitivity wise…one BF who was circumcised would take FOREVER to climax during intercourse. Painfully long. But then again, my first boyfriend was circumcised and he was a 30 second man, so I think it's more dependent on the individual rather than the foreskin. I didn't circumcise DS because when he was born, he was perfect as is. I don't think the benefits of circumcision are worth it, especially in a world where the rates of circumcision are falling. |
Anonymous
| Not necessary |
Anonymous
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Circumcision still the norm, despite what DCUMS tell themselves. For white non-Hispanic males, it's 90 percent. http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2814%2900036-6/fulltext I'm currently in a state with an 83 percent circumcision rate. |
Anonymous
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And here is the conclusion of the article:
The latest data on male circumcision in the United States show a 2.5% overall increase in prevalence in males aged 14 to 59 years between 2000 and 2010. In contrast, there has been a downward trend in neonatal circumcisions, with the present analyses finding that the true extent of this decline is 6 percentage points. |
Anonymous
Oh, I see. The Norm = White Non-Hispanic Males. Yes, I believe I got that memo. |
Anonymous
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Routine infant circumcision is unnecessary, irreversible* surgery, which the child cannot legally or otherwise consent to, that does not provide significant, proven, unique** long-term benefits but that has small but significant direct health risks.
This is aside from the moral and sensitivity arguments-- and I think circ has something to with American "jackhammer" sex and the cult of "tight vaginas," but anyhow... I come from a non-religious Jewish family and was considering it for cultural reasons, and DH is not Jewish, but circed. Decided it just wasn't necessary, nor had a net benefit. And it's surgery. That removes something. Permanently. DS can always choose to do it later. Even if we say the foreskin is completely useless, I wouldn't remove my child's earlobe at birth because it "looks cleaner" and so he'd have a much lower chance of getting skin cancer on his ears. *Basically. **For example, when you use condoms, differences in HIV transmission rates, which are not huge in the US anyway, flatten out almost completely. |
Anonymous
| Circumcision improves aerodynamic function. |
Anonymous
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My 7-year old is circ'ed like his father and my 8-month is not like his father. I'm from Europe I don't know anybody there who is circ'ed and they all seemed to just fine.
About esthetics? The circ'ed penis looks like it's hard at all times on my son. I wonder if they messed it up. I'd also like to think that I've grown as a person in that 7 years and read more about the topic to make a more informed decision. |
Anonymous
So because it's a religious custom it's ok to cut off part of a non-consenting human being's genitals? Stoning is also condoned by some religions. Does that make it right? |
Anonymous
Yes, it's the immigrant community who does it just because "that's what they do in America to little boys". Talking as an immigrant who partly did it because "that's what they do in America" ,and no literature to read up on to make up my own mind. Seemed to be part of being in hospital with the baby boy and doing it before leaving. Sad. |
Anonymous
| I didn't do it because I felt it was unnecessary. If someone else wants to do it, whatever. I don't care. |