What is the best strategy to fight ISIL/Al Qaeda/Taliban/Boko Haram/Al-Shabaab etc

[Anonymous]

More info on how Saudi Arabia (SA) uses Islamic Teachings. Beheading people for allegedly marijuana sales, confessions were obtained by torture.

SA is the source of evil in the modern world.


From - Al Jazeera at http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/08/saudi-beheads-four-men-smuggling-drugs-2014818184317907443.html

The government-owned SPA news agency identified the Saudi men on Monday as two sets of brothers - Hadi and Awad al-Motleq, and Mufarraj and Ali al-Yami. They were beheaded in the southwestern city of Najran, found to have smuggled "a large quantity of hashish" into the country. The government did not say when the executions took place. The beheadings raise to 32 the number of executions announced in Saudi Arabia so far this year, according to a tally by the AFP news agency. Rights watchdog Amnesty International denounced what it called a "disturbing surge" in executions in Saudi Arabia. "The Saudi Arabian authorities must halt all executions," the group said, adding that the executions of the two sets of brothers came "reportedly on the basis of forced confessions extracted through torture". Amnesty's statement said the latest executions "bring the number of state killings in Saudi Arabia in the past two weeks to 17 - a rate of more than one execution per day".

"The recent increase in executions in Saudi Arabia is a deeply disturbing deterioration. The authorities must act immediately to halt this cruel practice," Amnesty's Said Boumedouha said. The group said it was contacted by relatives of the men on Thursday "asking for help amid fears that the executions were imminent", and that later the family was told by the interior ministry to stop contacting the rights watchdog.

Last year, there were 78 executions in Saudi Arabia and the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights denounced a "sharp increase in the use of capital punishment".

Rape, murder, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking are all punishable by death under the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islamic teachings.

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Anonymous wrote:More info on how Saudi Arabia (SA) uses Islamic Teachings. Beheading people for allegedly marijuana sales, confessions were obtained by torture.

SA is the source of evil in the modern world.

I don't know that SA is "the source" of evil. I think there are plenty of sources.

[Anonymous]

I just haven't had the time to read everyone's posts, but..

Help reduce the poverty in Muslim countries. Impoverished people are more likely to be zealots and extremists.

Stay out of their religious and / or political wars. The US is heavily involved or always leads the campaign for involvement in the middle east, probably due to political reasons, oil, etc..It angers many Muslims.

Stop giving Israel so much financial support if it's evident human rights violations are occurring against Palestinians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disenfranchised people may be drawn into extremist groups because of political, economic and/or social disparity. Bombings and anti-Islamic rhetoric only feed into that.

If I were to propose a method to reduce the threat I would look at oil. In particular the Black Oil Market. As long as counties like Turkey accept black market oil from terrorist groups terrorism will be funded.

This, this, this!!!!

Politically and economically disenfranchised young people are VERY vulnerable to being drawn into extremist groups, or sometimes, as in Sandy Hook, acting out on their own.
Take a look at the kind of people who join white supremacist groups, or Incels, and other fringe types here in the U.S.
The all have some kind of political or social rhetoric, just like the Islamic extremists, but it really comes down to economics and disenfranchisement.
The difference is, Stormfront types know that they would be squashed in an instant if they actually tried to pull any sh*t.
Different situation in the Middle East.

Thank you! I said something similar last week in a different thread! You were more eloquent.

[Anonymous]

Their broken records of “this is not real Islam” will only add more fuel to the infernos of jihadis mindsets to commit more and more Islamic barbarism. Uttering the most heinous phrase: “This is not the real Islam” will do no good to the millions of Muslims. Mind you, Islamic terrorists, al-Qaeda jihadists, Osama-bin-laden, and so called Wahabi followers are all perfect and real Muslims by the book. They are the ardent followers of the Islamic scriptures. These jihadis will never listen to your logic or advice; they all will take advice and teachings from the Holy book called Quran and sahi hadiths (traditions of Prophet Muhammad).

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/SKM40715.htm

[Anonymous]

We should draft all the fox news people and let them go at it.

[Anonymous]

We need to bomb them back to the Stone Age!

[Anonymous]

It is NOT a coincidence that ISIS (or ISIL) begins with an I

how quaint from Mr Cuomo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to bomb them back to the Stone Age!

Yes, because it worked so well the last time.

[Muslima]

More than 120 Islamic scholars from around the world wrote an open letter to the leader of ISIS Al-Baghdadi, denouncing ISIS and its fundamentals. Full letter link is : http://lettertobaghdadi.com/index.php

I think the best strategy to fight terrorism is education, and knowledge. Bombs will just create more terrorists, with a new generation being born whenever we exterminate the previous one. We can not fight terrorism unless we understand its roots and armies can not fight terrorism, they can pause them for a while, even weaken it, but terrorism is rooted in feelings of abject frustration, and unless those feelings are gone, they won't stop. As long as there is extreme concentration of power, we know that , that power will be abused. And the only defense the powerless see are violent outbursts. So one of the things that can be done to stop terrorism is to fight oppression, exploitation and domination..nation to nation people to people everywhere. Terrorism is what people who have no armies and military budgets behind them do to fight what they perceive rightfully so or wrongfully as oppression and exploitation. It is an extreme personal act that often means there is no vision of hope or change that the ulitmate scarifice of one's own life is highest and is necessary... Maybe, just maybe, we can start by giving people a little bit of hope. It is too late for groups like Al Quaeda, ISIS ect.. but maybe we can do better so that groups like ISIS won't be able to recruit anyone in the future.If you're a young man and your frontal lobes haven't fully matured, and you have nothing to look forward to in your life, and you see no opportunities available to you, and there are institutions devoted to filtering people like you into suicide bombing , our ability to combat that threat depends heavily upon the number of those kinds of young men who exist. Our generation needs to address the root causes , and the root cause are inevitably inequality, frustration, occupation ect!We need to listen to people in distress and act on the group's collective need before they get so desperate that they are willing to blow people up.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

"We need to listen to people in distress and act on the group's collective need before they get so desperate that they are willing to blow people up. "

It's a little too late for that, don't you think?

A noble statement to make that ISIS and Al Qaeda won't be able to recruit anyone in the future when they are recruiting many via social media.

Since you are such a pillar of the Muslim community, Muslima, how would you appeal to these young people via your online persona to stop joining the people who are so vehemently against us? If, in fact you ARE one of "us?"

You could really make a positive impact here, don't you think? It is NOT too late to make sure these groups do not recruit anymore people from ANY countries.

Time to step up MUSLIMA, if you are going to talk the talk - walk the walk.

Peace be in Christ.

[Muslima]

I do not have the resources or time to scrounge social media looking for potential terrorists. But you better believe that both online and in real life, if I am faced with someone who has extremist views, I will have a critical, intellectual conversation about those views.This issue, really is bigger than me and you. Change has to come from all of us, yes Political change too but there are many things that Washington can't fix, that we can and the start is to have meaningful conversations about these issues and start to understand why people do the things they do...

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:I do not have the resources or time to scrounge social media looking for potential terrorists. But you better believe that both online and in real life, if I am faced with someone who has extremist views, I will have a critical, intellectual conversation about those views.This issue, really is bigger than me and you. Change has to come from all of us, yes Political change too but there are many things that Washington can't fix, that we can and the start is to have meaningful conversations about these issues and start to understand why people do the things they do...

670 posts and no real strategy on how to fight ISIL/Al Qaeda/Taliban/Boko Haram/Al-Shabaab

Is it an impossible task? hopeless?

[Anonymous]

One of the attractions of ISIS is that it bills itself as pure Islam, free from the financial corruption of many of the Arab regimes. I do not for a minute believe that ISIS's leaders are not siphoning off funds from their oil revenue and donations for their own benefit.

Let's set some forensic accountants to work, freeze their assets in whatever financial institutions they've put them and publicize. Exposing their financial corruption will go a long way to showing duped followers that ISIS is yet another cynical power and wealth grab by an elite few.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:I do not have the resources or time to scrounge social media looking for potential terrorists. But you better believe that both online and in real life, if I am faced with someone who has extremist views, I will have a critical, intellectual conversation about those views.This issue, really is bigger than me and you. Change has to come from all of us, yes Political change too but there are many things that Washington can't fix, that we can and the start is to have meaningful conversations about these issues and start to understand why people do the things they do...

670 posts and no real strategy on how to fight ISIL/Al Qaeda/Taliban/Boko Haram/Al-Shabaab

Is it an impossible task? hopeless?

It's impossible to create a strategy that fits conflicts in eight or more different countries. If they all look the same to you, then it really is hopeless.