Virginia Envy

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia colleges take average out-of-state over perfect residents:
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/metro-news/2013/nov/30/perfect-virginia-not-good-okay-pennsylvania-some-b/

But guaranteed admission is available only to Virginians

If you start at a Virginia community college and then transfer to a Virginia college, guaranteed admission is available.
And that works for VCU and GMU and many of the other schools. If you transfer from a community college to UVA, hopefully you are only there for a academics--good luck making friends.

Butyou must maintain a certain GPA in certain subjects for any one of the 40 transfer colleges and universities that honor the AA community college subjects. For those that have sharp, self-motivated kids, who are willing to drive a lot to classes, you can save a bundle by spending the first two years and at community college, then transferring.

I did this. I went to NoVA, then transferred to W&M. I also made friends. It can happen. I had a 4.0 GPA at NoVA.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

Ah, but there are the rednecks, the traffic, the rotting infrastructure and the provincial world view. And I would never willingly send a child to a public university for undergraduate studies.

Talk big, but empty brain.

Pot meet kettle. You're the one who chose to live in Virginia.

And that's a comeback? Enjoy Gaithersburg.

Do enjoy your state. It is a beacon of enlightenment:

http://rvanews.com/news/va-flaggers-to-erect-15-foot-confederate-flag-on-i-95/100498

http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/report_va._among_worst_in_the_nation_for_gender_equality432

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/virginia-elections-board-makes-voter-id-requirements-more-stringent/2014/08/07/331d625e-1dbe-11e4-82f9-2cd6fa8da5c4_story.html

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/sfaa/virginia.html

Why the vitriol against an entire state? We're VA residents, consider ourselves very tolerant, and live in a tolerant community. Plenty of redneck types everywhere, including MD. And plenty of enlighted people in VA.

This is a free country. If you are liberal, live in MD. If you are conservative, live in Va. Case close.

You sound like a narrow-minded idiot. Why not widen your horizons just a tad.

You are the one idiot using this forum to talk politic. Ass hold!

PP here; I'm actually a NP who was struck while reading this thread by what a moron you are. Buh-bye.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

Ah, but there are the rednecks, the traffic, the rotting infrastructure and the provincial world view. And I would never willingly send a child to a public university for undergraduate studies.

Talk big, but empty brain.

Pot meet kettle. You're the one who chose to live in Virginia.

And that's a comeback? Enjoy Gaithersburg.

Do enjoy your state. It is a beacon of enlightenment:

http://rvanews.com/news/va-flaggers-to-erect-15-foot-confederate-flag-on-i-95/100498

http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/report_va._among_worst_in_the_nation_for_gender_equality432

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/virginia-elections-board-makes-voter-id-requirements-more-stringent/2014/08/07/331d625e-1dbe-11e4-82f9-2cd6fa8da5c4_story.html

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/sfaa/virginia.html

Why the vitriol against an entire state? We're VA residents, consider ourselves very tolerant, and live in a tolerant community. Plenty of redneck types everywhere, including MD. And plenty of enlighted people in VA.

This is a free country. If you are liberal, live in MD. If you are conservative, live in Va. Case close.

Weird comment considering a higher percentage of people in Arl, Falls C, and Alex voted for Obama than Montgomery county Maryland...

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Wealthy liberals are moving from high tax Maryland to lower tax, but still liberal, NOVA. No state has lost as many millionaires as Maryland. Montgomery country is becoming a liberal utopia - fewer 1%ers more diverse, more government dependent. So long as there are people to fund it all, it's all good.

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Uhhh. Md has higher per cap income than Va.

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A different perspective might be in order - and coming from a liberal, African American, Ivy League-educated parent from Montgomery County, MD. My sense is that UVA is fairly representative of the state of Virginia as a whole; some conservatives and some liberals, poor and rich kids both represented, compelling diversity picture that is changing as we collectively change how we self identify. In other words, pretty representative of America as a whole. Not a bad environment for a young person to learn how to function in the adult world, with all of its challenges, opportunities and richness. Hopefully, we are raising resilient adults and not "veal". Successful African Americans learned long ago that you can't run away from environments where there might be a hostile element (preferably a small one). If we did, we could never work at a Fortune 500 company, rise through the ranks of the military, or even integrate most neighborhoods with good schools. Bottom line, I would comfortably send my child to UVA.

And for those who are dismissive about the quality and selectivity of UVA, I offer this. The USNWR rankings are not perfect, clearly. A consistent ranking in the Top 25, however, is nothing to be sneezed at. If you total all of the annual slots that are available for admission at all of the Top 25 as a group, they account for less than 40,000 students (dominated by private universities, with incoming classes of 1,500 or less). Against an annual U.S. high school graduating class of 3.4 million, and adding in a few hundred thousand more for international students, they collectively can only accommodate a little more than 1% of the graduates. Feel lucky that your son or daughter has access to such rarified air.

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Anonymous wrote:A different perspective might be in order - and coming from a liberal, African American, Ivy League-educated parent from Montgomery County, MD. My sense is that UVA is fairly representative of the state of Virginia as a whole; some conservatives and some liberals, poor and rich kids both represented, compelling diversity picture that is changing as we collectively change how we self identify. In other words, pretty representative of America as a whole. Not a bad environment for a young person to learn how to function in the adult world, with all of its challenges, opportunities and richness. Hopefully, we are raising resilient adults and not "veal". Successful African Americans learned long ago that you can't run away from environments where there might be a hostile element (preferably a small one). If we did, we could never work at a Fortune 500 company, rise through the ranks of the military, or even integrate most neighborhoods with good schools. Bottom line, I would comfortably send my child to UVA.

And for those who are dismissive about the quality and selectivity of UVA, I offer this. The USNWR rankings are not perfect, clearly. A consistent ranking in the Top 25, however, is nothing to be sneezed at. If you total all of the annual slots that are available for admission at all of the Top 25 as a group, they account for less than 40,000 students (dominated by private universities, with incoming classes of 1,500 or less). Against an annual U.S. high school graduating class of 3.4 million, and adding in a few hundred thousand more for international students, they collectively can only accommodate a little more than 1% of the graduates. Feel lucky that your son or daughter has access to such rarified air.

Don't do it...you've been warned

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Anonymous wrote:Uhhh. Md has higher per cap income than Va.

Roanoke -Yes
Norfolk - Yes
Richmond - Yes

NoVA - not even close

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As a MD resident, I am a bit envious of higher education in VA. Besides UVA there are a number of other good public universities- William and Mary, James Madison, Virginia Tech, etc. UMD College Park is a good school but the quality drops off after that. Plus College Park is so close, which isn't for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:A different perspective might be in order - and coming from a liberal, African American, Ivy League-educated parent from Montgomery County, MD. My sense is that UVA is fairly representative of the state of Virginia as a whole; some conservatives and some liberals, poor and rich kids both represented, compelling diversity picture that is changing as we collectively change how we self identify. In other words, pretty representative of America as a whole. Not a bad environment for a young person to learn how to function in the adult world, with all of its challenges, opportunities and richness. Hopefully, we are raising resilient adults and not "veal". Successful African Americans learned long ago that you can't run away from environments where there might be a hostile element (preferably a small one). If we did, we could never work at a Fortune 500 company, rise through the ranks of the military, or even integrate most neighborhoods with good schools. Bottom line, I would comfortably send my child to UVA.

And for those who are dismissive about the quality and selectivity of UVA, I offer this. The USNWR rankings are not perfect, clearly. A consistent ranking in the Top 25, however, is nothing to be sneezed at. If you total all of the annual slots that are available for admission at all of the Top 25 as a group, they account for less than 40,000 students (dominated by private universities, with incoming classes of 1,500 or less). Against an annual U.S. high school graduating class of 3.4 million, and adding in a few hundred thousand more for international students, they collectively can only accommodate a little more than 1% of the graduates. Feel lucky that your son or daughter has access to such rarified air.

Gotta agree. We moved to VA in hopes of UVA being an option for our kids. They didn't make the cut but kudos to those who do.

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Anonymous wrote:Uhhh. Md has higher per cap income than Va.

Montgomery County is now off the list, while NoVa dominates:

http://www.wtop.com/41/3594972/Americas-wealthiest-counties-Six-of-top-10-richest-counties-in-DC-area

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Anonymous wrote:Uhhh. Md has higher per cap income than Va.

Montgomery County is now off the list, while NoVa dominates:

http://www.wtop.com/41/3594972/Americas-wealthiest-counties-Six-of-top-10-richest-counties-in-DC-area

We're talking about state universities that take kids from across their states. Putting two counties side by side is pointless.

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Anonymous wrote:A different perspective might be in order - and coming from a liberal, African American, Ivy League-educated parent from Montgomery County, MD. My sense is that UVA is fairly representative of the state of Virginia as a whole; some conservatives and some liberals, poor and rich kids both represented, compelling diversity picture that is changing as we collectively change how we self identify. In other words, pretty representative of America as a whole. Not a bad environment for a young person to learn how to function in the adult world, with all of its challenges, opportunities and richness. Hopefully, we are raising resilient adults and not "veal". Successful African Americans learned long ago that you can't run away from environments where there might be a hostile element (preferably a small one). If we did, we could never work at a Fortune 500 company, rise through the ranks of the military, or even integrate most neighborhoods with good schools. Bottom line, I would comfortably send my child to UVA.

And for those who are dismissive about the quality and selectivity of UVA, I offer this. The USNWR rankings are not perfect, clearly. A consistent ranking in the Top 25, however, is nothing to be sneezed at. If you total all of the annual slots that are available for admission at all of the Top 25 as a group, they account for less than 40,000 students (dominated by private universities, with incoming classes of 1,500 or less). Against an annual U.S. high school graduating class of 3.4 million, and adding in a few hundred thousand more for international students, they collectively can only accommodate a little more than 1% of the graduates. Feel lucky that your son or daughter has access to such rarified air.

Thanks for this. I agree, as another MD parent with an Ivy education and with an older DC in a different Ivy (but we're white) I would happily pay out-of-state tuition for second DC to go to UVA or WM, if that's what second DC wants. (UMD is excellent too, although it's a little too close by for 2nd DC who is just starting to look at colleges.)

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I'm still stuck in Maryland, but only a fool would deny that Northern Virginia has blown past Maryland (including the little well to do part of DC) as a destination for the well to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still stuck in Maryland, but only a fool would deny that Northern Virginia has blown past Maryland (including the little well to do part of DC) as a destination for the well to do.

Dan Snyder and Ted leonsis say "hi".