Virginia Envy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

Ah, but there are the rednecks, the traffic, the rotting infrastructure and the provincial world view. And I would never willingly send a child to a public university for undergraduate studies.

Funny. I had the opposite feeling when i moved to VA. Arlington is like San Francisco when compared to the part of Rockville I used to live in... Lots of rednecks in Mont Co...none that I can find here....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but the great majority of Virginians do not have access to UVA; in fact, if you are paying out of state tuition, you probably have better access than in-state. It was so hard to get into in-state 20 years ago, I did not even bother to apply--figured it was a waste of application fee.

Isn't there a guaranteed admission program through NOVA? Very low cost with admission guaranteed after two years.

Indeed. Guaranteed for UVA and William and Mary and others with the requirements spelled out in an agreement. One of the best deals anywhere in terms of going to excellent colleges and saving a ton of money in the process. Those wanting a full four year college experience may hesitate, though.

Transfers from a lesser school and especially from community college may have a hard time adjusting to the course level and workload at a state flagship especially of UVA/W&M caliber.

Hahah...nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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For Virginia kids who (a) can get in, (b) want to go, and (c) "fit" there, UVA is a terrific option. But those are some pretty meaningful conditions (and unknowable until HS at the earliest)....

THIS.

It's not that smart to base a decision on where your forever home will be when your kid is 4 considering all these conditions.

We thought it was worth moving to Virginia for the chance of UVA. Our kids ended up at top 50 colleges out of state. No regrets.

Top 50? Isn't that setting sights low when you consider there are 50 SLACs and even 15 or so regional colleges that clearly rank above the U of Florida?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but the great majority of Virginians do not have access to UVA; in fact, if you are paying out of state tuition, you probably have better access than in-state. It was so hard to get into in-state 20 years ago, I did not even bother to apply--figured it was a waste of application fee.

Isn't there a guaranteed admission program through NOVA? Very low cost with admission guaranteed after two years.

Indeed. Guaranteed for UVA and William and Mary and others with the requirements spelled out in an agreement. One of the best deals anywhere in terms of going to excellent colleges and saving a ton of money in the process. Those wanting a full four year college experience may hesitate, though.

Transfers from a lesser school and especially from community college may have a hard time adjusting to the course level and workload at a state flagship especially of UVA/W&M caliber.

How many actually transfer in to UVA and W&M vs places like JMU and VCU and Mary Washington. Not that there is anything wrong with those schools, but I just don't get the impression that there are really very many people actually moving from Nova to UVA so wonder how realistic that is. Maybe someone's got the stats?

A lot transfer to VT and JMU rather than UVA and WM....good but not great colleges.

Not sure VCU is particularly sought after by top NVCC students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

DC has absolutely no interest in applying to UVA or UMD regardless of their status.

Not everyone is enamored with UVA or UMD, and that's just fine. It's about choice.

Same here. DC applied to several VA schools, but had zero interest in UVA (we're VA residents).

Or chance of acceptance....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but the great majority of Virginians do not have access to UVA; in fact, if you are paying out of state tuition, you probably have better access than in-state. It was so hard to get into in-state 20 years ago, I did not even bother to apply--figured it was a waste of application fee.

Isn't there a guaranteed admission program through NOVA? Very low cost with admission guaranteed after two years.

Indeed. Guaranteed for UVA and William and Mary and others with the requirements spelled out in an agreement. One of the best deals anywhere in terms of going to excellent colleges and saving a ton of money in the process. Those wanting a full four year college experience may hesitate, though.

Transfers from a lesser school and especially from community college may have a hard time adjusting to the course level and workload at a state flagship especially of UVA/W&M caliber.

How many actually transfer in to UVA and W&M vs places like JMU and VCU and Mary Washington. Not that there is anything wrong with those schools, but I just don't get the impression that there are really very many people actually moving from Nova to UVA so wonder how realistic that is. Maybe someone's got the stats?

A lot transfer to VT and JMU rather than UVA and WM....good but not great colleges.

Not sure VCU is particularly sought after by top NVCC students.

Area schools like a Georgetown get a surprising number of Nova students.

[Anonymous]

Do they teach redneck's science?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia colleges take average out-of-state over perfect residents:
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/metro-news/2013/nov/30/perfect-virginia-not-good-okay-pennsylvania-some-b/

But guaranteed admission is available only to Virginians

If you start at a Virginia community college and then transfer to a Virginia college, guaranteed admission is available.
And that works for VCU and GMU and many of the other schools. If you transfer from a community college to UVA, hopefully you are only there for a academics--good luck making friends.

Butyou must maintain a certain GPA in certain subjects for any one of the 40 transfer colleges and universities that honor the AA community college subjects. For those that have sharp, self-motivated kids, who are willing to drive a lot to classes, you can save a bundle by spending the first two years and at community college, then transferring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For Virginia kids who (a) can get in, (b) want to go, and (c) "fit" there, UVA is a terrific option. But those are some pretty meaningful conditions (and unknowable until HS at the earliest)....

THIS.

It's not that smart to base a decision on where your forever home will be when your kid is 4 considering all these conditions.

We thought it was worth moving to Virginia for the chance of UVA. Our kids ended up at top 50 colleges out of state. No regrets.

Top 50? Isn't that setting sights low when you consider there are 50 SLACs and even 15 or so regional colleges that clearly rank above the U of Florida?

What is a forever home? Why would anybody want to stay in this area forever?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For Virginia kids who (a) can get in, (b) want to go, and (c) "fit" there, UVA is a terrific option. But those are some pretty meaningful conditions (and unknowable until HS at the earliest)....

THIS.

It's not that smart to base a decision on where your forever home will be when your kid is 4 considering all these conditions.

We thought it was worth moving to Virginia for the chance of UVA. Our kids ended up at top 50 colleges out of state. No regrets.

Top 50? Isn't that setting sights low when you consider there are 50 SLACs and even 15 or so regional colleges that clearly rank above the U of Florida?

As a Top 50 National, Florida's peers are Penn State, Wisconsin, Miami. Top 50 SLAC is Furman, Gettysburg, DePauw - you think THOSE schools are of comparable caliber?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For Virginia kids who (a) can get in, (b) want to go, and (c) "fit" there, UVA is a terrific option. But those are some pretty meaningful conditions (and unknowable until HS at the earliest)....

THIS.

It's not that smart to base a decision on where your forever home will be when your kid is 4 considering all these conditions.

We thought it was worth moving to Virginia for the chance of UVA. Our kids ended up at top 50 colleges out of state. No regrets.

Top 50? Isn't that setting sights low when you consider there are 50 SLACs and even 15 or so regional colleges that clearly rank above the U of Florida?

As a Top 50 National, Florida's peers are Penn State, Wisconsin, Miami. Top 50 SLAC is Furman, Gettysburg, DePauw - you think THOSE schools are of comparable caliber?

I think I would send my kid to the latter before the former. The undergrad teaching is probably better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

DC has absolutely no interest in applying to UVA or UMD regardless of their status.

Not everyone is enamored with UVA or UMD, and that's just fine. It's about choice.

Same here. DC applied to several VA schools, but had zero interest in UVA (we're VA residents).

Or chance of acceptance....

Actually, he was accepted to W&M, so pretty sure he would've gotten into UVA as well. Ultimately, he chose JMU and is very happy there. There are plenty of qualified kids who choose schools other than UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

Ah, but there are the rednecks, the traffic, the rotting infrastructure and the provincial world view. And I would never willingly send a child to a public university for undergraduate studies.

Funny. I had the opposite feeling when i moved to VA. Arlington is like San Francisco when compared to the part of Rockville I used to live in... Lots of rednecks in Mont Co...none that I can find here....

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For Virginia kids who (a) can get in, (b) want to go, and (c) "fit" there, UVA is a terrific option. But those are some pretty meaningful conditions (and unknowable until HS at the earliest)....

THIS.

It's not that smart to base a decision on where your forever home will be when your kid is 4 considering all these conditions.

We thought it was worth moving to Virginia for the chance of UVA. Our kids ended up at top 50 colleges out of state. No regrets.

Top 50? Isn't that setting sights low when you consider there are 50 SLACs and even 15 or so regional colleges that clearly rank above the U of Florida?

As a Top 50 National, Florida's peers are Penn State, Wisconsin, Miami. Top 50 SLAC is Furman, Gettysburg, DePauw - you think THOSE schools are of comparable caliber?

I think I would send my kid to the latter before the former. The undergrad teaching is probably better.

Well then no need to move your toddlers to Virginia. But please update us on your college perspective after you've gone though it with your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

Ah, but there are the rednecks, the traffic, the rotting infrastructure and the provincial world view. And I would never willingly send a child to a public university for undergraduate studies.

Huh? Forget UVA. You seriously would "never willingly" send your child to a public university for undergrad? Um, who exactly are you accusing of having a "provincial world view"?

Public universities cater to graduate students. The undergraduates get the dregs and are often taught by graduate students. So, no, I would not care to have one of my children at a public universities for undergraduate studies. Graduate studies is another thing.