Virginia Envy

[Anonymous]

Virginia colleges take average out-of-state over perfect residents:
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/metro-news/2013/nov/30/perfect-virginia-not-good-okay-pennsylvania-some-b/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia colleges take average out-of-state over perfect residents:
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/metro-news/2013/nov/30/perfect-virginia-not-good-okay-pennsylvania-some-b/

But guaranteed admission is available only to Virginians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia colleges take average out-of-state over perfect residents:
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/metro-news/2013/nov/30/perfect-virginia-not-good-okay-pennsylvania-some-b/

But guaranteed admission is available only to Virginians

If you start at a Virginia community college and then transfer to a Virginia college, guaranteed admission is available.
And that works for VCU and GMU and many of the other schools. If you transfer from a community college to UVA, hopefully you are only there for a academics--good luck making friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia colleges take average out-of-state over perfect residents:
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/metro-news/2013/nov/30/perfect-virginia-not-good-okay-pennsylvania-some-b/

But guaranteed admission is available only to Virginians

If you start at a Virginia community college and then transfer to a Virginia college, guaranteed admission is available.
And that works for VCU and GMU and many of the other schools. If you transfer from a community college to UVA, hopefully you are only there for a academics--good luck making friends.

It may not be the option for everyone, but that low cost option for a Top 25 education is available only to those resident in the Commonwealth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

What is the percentage of kids across the Potomac who actually receive acceptance letters from UVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

What is the percentage of kids across the Potomac who actually receive acceptance letters from UVA?

In previous years from local good high schools like Madison, McLean and Langley, the top 10% will be accepted to UVA. So for a class of about 500, 50 will be accepted and about a dozen will go. At least that's the data I've seen on naviance over the years and heard from others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

Michigan is ranked next, and ahead of W&M. It attracts a lot of students from this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but the great majority of Virginians do not have access to UVA; in fact, if you are paying out of state tuition, you probably have better access than in-state. It was so hard to get into in-state 20 years ago, I did not even bother to apply--figured it was a waste of application fee.

Isn't there a guaranteed admission program through NOVA? Very low cost with admission guaranteed after two years.

Indeed. Guaranteed for UVA and William and Mary and others with the requirements spelled out in an agreement. One of the best deals anywhere in terms of going to excellent colleges and saving a ton of money in the process. Those wanting a full four year college experience may hesitate, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but the great majority of Virginians do not have access to UVA; in fact, if you are paying out of state tuition, you probably have better access than in-state. It was so hard to get into in-state 20 years ago, I did not even bother to apply--figured it was a waste of application fee.

Isn't there a guaranteed admission program through NOVA? Very low cost with admission guaranteed after two years.

Indeed. Guaranteed for UVA and William and Mary and others with the requirements spelled out in an agreement. One of the best deals anywhere in terms of going to excellent colleges and saving a ton of money in the process. Those wanting a full four year college experience may hesitate, though.

Transfers from a lesser school and especially from community college may have a hard time adjusting to the course level and workload at a state flagship especially of UVA/W&M caliber.

[Anonymous]

For Virginia kids who (a) can get in, (b) want to go, and (c) "fit" there, UVA is a terrific option. But those are some pretty meaningful conditions (and unknowable until HS at the earliest)....

THIS.

It's not that smart to base a decision on where your forever home will be when your kid is 4 considering all these conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For Virginia kids who (a) can get in, (b) want to go, and (c) "fit" there, UVA is a terrific option. But those are some pretty meaningful conditions (and unknowable until HS at the earliest)....

THIS.

It's not that smart to base a decision on where your forever home will be when your kid is 4 considering all these conditions.

We thought it was worth moving to Virginia for the chance of UVA. Our kids ended up at top 50 colleges out of state. No regrets.

[Anonymous]

Oh blecht. I couldn't possibly stomach living in Virginia for 18 years just to get in-state tuition. If my child really wants, qualifies, and gets accepted, I'll pay out-of-state rather than live in that state. It's probably fine to live there if you are white, heterosexual and conservative, but otherwise, I wouldn't do it. While I understand that NoVa has a lot of racial variety and is more liberal, far too many laws and political games come out of RoVa to make me feel comfortable living there. There's a lot more RoVa than NoVa and they've shown that conservative, sexist and racist policies/laws are very likely to be pass even in the 21st century.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but the great majority of Virginians do not have access to UVA; in fact, if you are paying out of state tuition, you probably have better access than in-state. It was so hard to get into in-state 20 years ago, I did not even bother to apply--figured it was a waste of application fee.

Isn't there a guaranteed admission program through NOVA? Very low cost with admission guaranteed after two years.

Indeed. Guaranteed for UVA and William and Mary and others with the requirements spelled out in an agreement. One of the best deals anywhere in terms of going to excellent colleges and saving a ton of money in the process. Those wanting a full four year college experience may hesitate, though.

Transfers from a lesser school and especially from community college may have a hard time adjusting to the course level and workload at a state flagship especially of UVA/W&M caliber.

How many actually transfer in to UVA and W&M vs places like JMU and VCU and Mary Washington. Not that there is anything wrong with those schools, but I just don't get the impression that there are really very many people actually moving from Nova to UVA so wonder how realistic that is. Maybe someone's got the stats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only Top 25 public university east of California. Despite paying lower taxes that those of us in DC and MD, Virginians have access to elite college at in state tuition. Just another reason for migration across the Potomac.

DC has absolutely no interest in applying to UVA or UMD regardless of their status.

Not everyone is enamored with UVA or UMD, and that's just fine. It's about choice.

Same here. DC applied to several VA schools, but had zero interest in UVA (we're VA residents).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia colleges take average out-of-state over perfect residents:
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/metro-news/2013/nov/30/perfect-virginia-not-good-okay-pennsylvania-some-b/

But guaranteed admission is available only to Virginians

If you start at a Virginia community college and then transfer to a Virginia college, guaranteed admission is available.
And that works for VCU and GMU and many of the other schools. If you transfer from a community college to UVA, hopefully you are only there for a academics--good luck making friends.

It may not be the option for everyone, but that low cost option for a Top 25 education is available only to those resident in the Commonwealth.

Doesn't that go for any residents with good state schools - UNC, Michigan, Berkeley, etc.? Why the fixation on UVA?