AAP and who belongs....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just came across this thread. Oh how the AAP parents need to defend their little snowflakes "need" for AAP! Truly a joke! As an aart at two fcps schools I am very aware of how few students belong in AAP. AAP should be the abbreviation for Awfully Annoying Parents. Kids are sweet but SO few belong in AAP.

well your employer, The FCPS decided differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot begin to comprehend adults, especially teachers, being so NASTY to elementary age children. Shame on you.

Some people seem to think because teachers are " professionals" they always behave in a professional manner. It is not true in many cases. One teacher at my DC's center regularly makes kids cry because she's so mean. The administration sees her a no nonsense and does nothing about it. I wish people who don't enjoy teaching would just get out of the profession. They give the really good teachers, and my kids have had great ones, a bad name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think they don't need to be in a gifted program or do you think they don't need the curriculum you're teaching. Is it way too hard for them or is it just challenging but with teaching they get it? Could another teacher teach 6 children at the same level as you are now while teaching 4 other levels in her class of 28? Would the 3 remaining children be better served by a center 30 minutes away from their home and a completely different curriculum? Contrary to what most people say on this board, the primary reason parents want their children in this program is for the academic challenge, not the status.

Why in all of these posts has OP not bothered to address my questions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also teach AAP and agree with the OP. So many parents push for AAP as if it is a status symbol for themselves. Do you think Harvard, Princeton, and Yale give a rat's ass that your child was in AAP in elementary school? I find it especially humorous that so many parents of AAP kids whose elementary schools feed into Luther Jackson for AAP choose not to send them on to middle school AAP. Hypocrites!!! "My child must have AAP, but for middle school it does not matter.". FCPS needs to eliminate the AAP program. And, before you criticize me, I went to Princeton and got my Masters of Ed at Columbia so I may be somewhat well educated.

Who cares where you went to school? That doesn't mean you are a good teacher or that your opinion matters more than other people's opinions. This year DC1 has an ivy educated teacher, who is mediocre at best, and DC2 has a non- ivy teacher, who is amazing. I would be thrilled to have DC2' s teacher move up and teacher DC2 again. You couldn't pay me to have DC1's ivy educated teacher teach either of them again. DC1'S non ivy teacher from last year also blows the current ivy one out of the water, and I would love to have her teach my kids again. Of course there are some great ivy educated teachers, but,sorry, your ivy education doesn't make your opinion more valid. We have no idea what caliber of teacher you happen to be. Also, do you look down on you colleagues who aren't ivy educated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just came across this thread. Oh how the AAP parents need to defend their little snowflakes "need" for AAP! Truly a joke! As an aart at two fcps schools I am very aware of how few students belong in AAP. AAP should be the abbreviation for Awfully Annoying Parents. Kids are sweet but SO few belong in AAP.

Maybe instead of bashing the parents, FCPS should make Gen Ed more challenging so all these parents don't feel their kids "need" AAP in order to be challenged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot begin to comprehend adults, especially teachers, being so NASTY to elementary age children. Shame on you.

Some people seem to think because teachers are " professionals" they always behave in a professional manner. It is not true in many cases. One teacher at my DC's center regularly makes kids cry because she's so mean. The administration sees her a no nonsense and does nothing about it. I wish people who don't enjoy teaching would just get out of the profession. They give the really good teachers, and my kids have had great ones, a bad name.

I expect that teachers go into to the profession with a love of teaching and a healthy respect for children - certainly no one does it for the prestige or money!
Unfortunately, I have unrealistic expectations. There are bad eggs in every field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think they don't need to be in a gifted program or do you think they don't need the curriculum you're teaching. Is it way too hard for them or is it just challenging but with teaching they get it? Could another teacher teach 6 children at the same level as you are now while teaching 4 other levels in her class of 28? Would the 3 remaining children be better served by a center 30 minutes away from their home and a completely different curriculum? Contrary to what most people say on this board, the primary reason parents want their children in this program is for the academic challenge, not the status.

Why in all of these posts has OP not bothered to address my questions?

Because it's convoluted and poorly written? Just a thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot begin to comprehend adults, especially teachers, being so NASTY to elementary age children. Shame on you.

Some people seem to think because teachers are " professionals" they always behave in a professional manner. It is not true in many cases. One teacher at my DC's center regularly makes kids cry because she's so mean. The administration sees her a no nonsense and does nothing about it. I wish people who don't enjoy teaching would just get out of the profession. They give the really good teachers, and my kids have had great ones, a bad name.

I expect that teachers go into to the profession with a love of teaching and a healthy respect for children - certainly no one does it for the prestige or money!
Unfortunately, I have unrealistic expectations. There are bad eggs in every field.

I think some of them get into the profession without realizing what teaching kids will be like. I most certainly wouldn't like to be in a classroom full of kids on a daily basis. It's hard. I think what's even harder is realizing that after you spend years in school thinking that's what you want to do, and realizing a degree In education isn't necessarily transferable to another field. They are stuck and that's not a good place for them or the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also teach AAP and agree with the OP. So many parents push for AAP as if it is a status symbol for themselves. Do you think Harvard, Princeton, and Yale give a rat's ass that your child was in AAP in elementary school? I find it especially humorous that so many parents of AAP kids whose elementary schools feed into Luther Jackson for AAP choose not to send them on to middle school AAP. Hypocrites!!! "My child must have AAP, but for middle school it does not matter.". FCPS needs to eliminate the AAP program. And, before you criticize me, I went to Princeton and got my Masters of Ed at Columbia so I may be somewhat well educated.

It is redundant to say "AAP program." The "P" of AAP already indicates "Programs," plural because of the different levels of programs offered. So if you say "AAP program," it's as if you are saying "Advanced Academic Programs program." You can say just "AAP."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also teach AAP and agree with the OP. So many parents push for AAP as if it is a status symbol for themselves. Do you think Harvard, Princeton, and Yale give a rat's ass that your child was in AAP in elementary school? I find it especially humorous that so many parents of AAP kids whose elementary schools feed into Luther Jackson for AAP choose not to send them on to middle school AAP. Hypocrites!!! "My child must have AAP, but for middle school it does not matter.". FCPS needs to eliminate the AAP program. And, before you criticize me, I went to Princeton and got my Masters of Ed at Columbia so I may be somewhat well educated.

It is redundant to say "AAP program." The "P" of AAP already indicates "Programs," plural because of the different levels of programs offered. So if you say "AAP program," it's as if you are saying "Advanced Academic Programs program." You can say just "AAP."

Yes, but you know exactly what is meant when someone says the "AAP program," and most people do. Because they just don't care as much as you. No need to scold, Ms. Schoolmarm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also teach AAP and agree with the OP. So many parents push for AAP as if it is a status symbol for themselves. Do you think Harvard, Princeton, and Yale give a rat's ass that your child was in AAP in elementary school? I find it especially humorous that so many parents of AAP kids whose elementary schools feed into Luther Jackson for AAP choose not to send them on to middle school AAP. Hypocrites!!! "My child must have AAP, but for middle school it does not matter.". FCPS needs to eliminate the AAP program. And, before you criticize me, I went to Princeton and got my Masters of Ed at Columbia so I may be somewhat well educated.

It is redundant to say "AAP program." The "P" of AAP already indicates "Programs," plural because of the different levels of programs offered. So if you say "AAP program," it's as if you are saying "Advanced Academic Programs program." You can say just "AAP."

the P might have well been pedantic (for the poster quoted here) - not much value added here but thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous]

Interesting that a teacher makes a typographical punctuation error and is denigrated for it but a parent who calls it the AAP program (redundancy ) is defended. Parents here are often ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think they don't need to be in a gifted program or do you think they don't need the curriculum you're teaching. Is it way too hard for them or is it just challenging but with teaching they get it? Could another teacher teach 6 children at the same level as you are now while teaching 4 other levels in her class of 28? Would the 3 remaining children be better served by a center 30 minutes away from their home and a completely different curriculum? Contrary to what most people say on this board, the primary reason parents want their children in this program is for the academic challenge, not the status.

Why in all of these posts has OP not bothered to address my questions?

Because it's convoluted and poorly written? Just a thought.

And her posts are so much better? She's given no reason why the other children do not deserve to be given the AAP curriculum or why she can't teach the other three at a different level than the rest of the class.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Other kids deserve AAp no more than most gen ed kids. Other than pushy parents, there is not much difference between most base school kids and most AAP kids. But please keep posting here how your DC is "so special" and "needs" AAP to succeed in life. Poor children become their parents' failures.

[Anonymous]

OP. Again, you're a teacher, correct? You teach these children the curriculum. Can they not handle it? Are you able to differentiate with the other three children in the class same as any general ed teacher would have to do? That's all that should matter. My child isn't at a center, thank god, so I don't really care about whether others should or shouldn't be at a certain school. Regardless of whether they're at a center or a LLIV program, should most of those children be getting the AAP curriculum?