Do you think ADHD is real and/or over prescribed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to get flamed for this, but here goes...some of the most misbehaved children I know are diagnosed with ADHD. Interestingly enough, their parents are the most ineffective, passive and permissive adults.

I've yet to meet a child with ADHD who's raised in a strict but loving, disciplined household with firm limits, consistent boundaries, a set schedule and a healthy dose of the word n and benign neglect as needed. We're raising self-centered, entitled brats.

Go ahead, tell me that you are raising your child this way and he/she is gifted, healthy, quirky, etc. but despite your loving interventions...

We've gotten so afraid of blaming Mother or accusing the parents of neglect that experts tend to gloss over or claim the home environment is relevant.

You are an ignorant ass - this much I know for sure.

How do you explain my mature, non-impulsive, independent DD? She is being raised exactly the same way - and with the same parents as my immature, highly impulsive and very dependent ADHD & LD DS?

Maybe DD is being raised by you?

It's really not possible for anyone here to explain to you, your very different children, nor how you may relate differently with each one of them. Sorry.

what does THAT mean? Please explain, Einstein.

[Anonymous]

http://www.amazon.com/Weve-Got-Issues-Children-Medication/dp/B005DI8BKU

Surprised no one has yet mentioned this book. She goes into it with the premise that we're overprescribing everything. Does a 180 and comes out convinced it's all very real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not believe in drugging peoplr. ADHD is made up.

That's nice. Where did you earn your PhD in neuroscience? Or do you have an MD?

Just curious OP, did you start this thread so you could type that? Were you disappointed at having to wait until the second screen?

[Anonymous]

Nothing is "all or nothing".
You need to know your own kid.
In lots of over-stressed families,
that's simply impossible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not believe in drugging peoplr. ADHD is made up.

That's nice. Where did you earn your PhD in neuroscience? Or do you have an MD?

Just curious OP, did you start this thread so you could type that? Were you disappointed at having to wait until the second screen?

Nope that wasn't me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Weve-Got-Issues-Children-Medication/dp/B005DI8BKU

Surprised no one has yet mentioned this book. She goes into it with the premise that we're overprescribing everything. Does a 180 and comes out convinced it's all very real.

I am not sure this kind of anecdotes based books mean much. No one, well I guess no one who is serious will deny there are true benefits of medication for some children. But when prevalence jumped 200 percent in a decade, it is something to think about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not believe in drugging peoplr. ADHD is made up.

That's nice. Where did you earn your PhD in neuroscience? Or do you have an MD?

Just curious OP, did you start this thread so you could type that? Were you disappointed at having to wait until the second screen?

Nope that wasn't me

But did you, or did you not, anticipate a response like "I do not believe in drugging people?"

[Anonymous]

Most dual-income parents are too stressed out to deal with the consequences of their choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Weve-Got-Issues-Children-Medication/dp/B005DI8BKU

Surprised no one has yet mentioned this book. She goes into it with the premise that we're overprescribing everything. Does a 180 and comes out convinced it's all very real.

I am not sure this kind of anecdotes based books mean much. No one, well I guess no one who is serious will deny there are true benefits of medication for some children. But when prevalence jumped 200 percent in a decade, it is something to think about.

See, these are the things I think about long before I conclude "it's all made up," which is what you seem to be inferring.

1) The condition has always been there, largely untreated and undiagnosed. So it's not really an increase in prevalence. The increase in Rx may be related more to the fact that effective, FDA-approved and peer-reviewed medications tested in double-blind laboratory tests came onto the market, rather than the cynical meme of drug pushing. Or:

2) You're right, there IS an increased prevalence. But that's due to environmental factors, most likely the introduction of widespread use of genetic modifications to our crops and other toxins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Weve-Got-Issues-Children-Medication/dp/B005DI8BKU

Surprised no one has yet mentioned this book. She goes into it with the premise that we're overprescribing everything. Does a 180 and comes out convinced it's all very real.

I am not sure this kind of anecdotes based books mean much. No one, well I guess no one who is serious will deny there are true benefits of medication for some children. But when prevalence jumped 200 percent in a decade, it is something to think about.

See, these are the things I think about long before I conclude "it's all made up," which is what you seem to be inferring.

1) The condition has always been there, largely untreated and undiagnosed. So it's not really an increase in prevalence. The increase in Rx may be related more to the fact that effective, FDA-approved and peer-reviewed medications tested in double-blind laboratory tests came onto the market, rather than the cynical meme of drug pushing. Or:

2) You're right, there IS an increased prevalence. But that's due to environmental factors, most likely the introduction of widespread use of genetic modifications to our crops and other toxins.

Toxins are indeed a major problem, as is absentee parenting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Weve-Got-Issues-Children-Medication/dp/B005DI8BKU

Surprised no one has yet mentioned this book. She goes into it with the premise that we're overprescribing everything. Does a 180 and comes out convinced it's all very real.

I am not sure this kind of anecdotes based books mean much. No one, well I guess no one who is serious will deny there are true benefits of medication for some children. But when prevalence jumped 200 percent in a decade, it is something to think about.

See, these are the things I think about long before I conclude "it's all made up," which is what you seem to be inferring.

1) The condition has always been there, largely untreated and undiagnosed. So it's not really an increase in prevalence. The increase in Rx may be related more to the fact that effective, FDA-approved and peer-reviewed medications tested in double-blind laboratory tests came onto the market, rather than the cynical meme of drug pushing. Or:

2) You're right, there IS an increased prevalence. But that's due to environmental factors, most likely the introduction of widespread use of genetic modifications to our crops and other toxins.

Toxins are indeed a major problem, as is absentee parenting.

Straw man. Every child I know who has ADHD is intensely supervised. Usually there is a parent at home. They are extremely involved in trying to manage the condition. There's no absenteeism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Weve-Got-Issues-Children-Medication/dp/B005DI8BKU

Surprised no one has yet mentioned this book. She goes into it with the premise that we're overprescribing everything. Does a 180 and comes out convinced it's all very real.

I am not sure this kind of anecdotes based books mean much. No one, well I guess no one who is serious will deny there are true benefits of medication for some children. But when prevalence jumped 200 percent in a decade, it is something to think about.

See, these are the things I think about long before I conclude "it's all made up," which is what you seem to be inferring.

1) The condition has always been there, largely untreated and undiagnosed. So it's not really an increase in prevalence. The increase in Rx may be related more to the fact that effective, FDA-approved and peer-reviewed medications tested in double-blind laboratory tests came onto the market, rather than the cynical meme of drug pushing. Or:

2) You're right, there IS an increased prevalence. But that's due to environmental factors, most likely the introduction of widespread use of genetic modifications to our crops and other toxins.

Toxins are indeed a major problem, as is absentee parenting.

Straw man. Every child I know who has ADHD is intensely supervised. Usually there is a parent at home. They are extremely involved in trying to manage the condition. There's no absenteeism.

Commonplace denial. You don't have an accurate overview.

[Anonymous]

No one really knows how these children were cared for during pregnancy and during infancy and early life.
Toxins are always a factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Weve-Got-Issues-Children-Medication/dp/B005DI8BKU

Surprised no one has yet mentioned this book. She goes into it with the premise that we're overprescribing everything. Does a 180 and comes out convinced it's all very real.

I am not sure this kind of anecdotes based books mean much. No one, well I guess no one who is serious will deny there are true benefits of medication for some children. But when prevalence jumped 200 percent in a decade, it is something to think about.

See, these are the things I think about long before I conclude "it's all made up," which is what you seem to be inferring.

1) The condition has always been there, largely untreated and undiagnosed. So it's not really an increase in prevalence. The increase in Rx may be related more to the fact that effective, FDA-approved and peer-reviewed medications tested in double-blind laboratory tests came onto the market, rather than the cynical meme of drug pushing. Or:

2) You're right, there IS an increased prevalence. But that's due to environmental factors, most likely the introduction of widespread use of genetic modifications to our crops and other toxins.

Toxins are indeed a major problem, as is absentee parenting.

Straw man. Every child I know who has ADHD is intensely supervised. Usually there is a parent at home. They are extremely involved in trying to manage the condition. There's no absenteeism.

Commonplace denial. You don't have an accurate overview.[/quote

No, I deal with canards all the time. I have a perfect batting average in calling them out.

Even if you grant your premise, the evidence doesn't support your canard. The latch-key generation was in the 1980s. You'd expect a higher prevalence during that time.

This conversation is for knowledgeable adults. You can stop participating now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one really knows how these children were cared for during pregnancy and during infancy and early life.
Toxins are always a factor.