Do you think ADHD is real and/or over prescribed?

[Anonymous]

PP here, sorry the first 2012 should be 2007. Not that it matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to get flamed for this, but here goes...some of the most misbehaved children I know are diagnosed with ADHD. Interestingly enough, their parents are the most ineffective, passive and permissive adults.

I've yet to meet a child with ADHD who's raised in a strict but loving, disciplined household with firm limits, consistent boundaries, a set schedule and a healthy dose of the word n and benign neglect as needed. We're raising self-centered, entitled brats.

Go ahead, tell me that you are raising your child this way and he/she is gifted, healthy, quirky, etc. but despite your loving interventions...

We've gotten so afraid of blaming Mother or accusing the parents of neglect that experts tend to gloss over or claim the home environment is relevant.

Some of this is valid. Post-ADHD diagnosis, I have definitely changed my parenting style and wish I had done so earlier. Not speaking for
All ADHD parents, but I definitely contributed to my child's lack of boundaries.

I applaud your candid response. Poor boundary implemintation was also my greatest error.

[Anonymous]

I did not drink at all when I was pregnant, but keeping trying to find reasons to blame the moms if it makes you feel better.

My kids with ADHD are well behaved. They are not self-centered. They are not brats. There are so many kids and adults with ADHD throughout both sides of our family that there is no doubt in my mind that this is genetic.

I suppose its my fault for reproducing or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not drink at all when I was pregnant, but keeping trying to find reasons to blame the moms if it makes you feel better.

My kids with ADHD are well behaved. They are not self-centered. They are not brats. There are so many kids and adults with ADHD throughout both sides of our family that there is no doubt in my mind that this is genetic.

I suppose its my fault for reproducing or something.

Look, you know you and your kids. We don't. No one here even knows you. Stop defending yourself.
On the flip side, was at Starbucks this evening. Parent was there with two kids about 6 and 8. She was telling someone the laundry list of diagnosed disorders the younger one has. She was not tending to them. They were supposed to be watching her laptop with cartons on it. But, alas, they ran around the place like crazies. That was at 8:30, -on a school night.
Are we to believe there's no correlation with enviornment?
And yes, every family is indeed different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not drink at all when I was pregnant, but keeping trying to find reasons to blame the moms if it makes you feel better.

My kids with ADHD are well behaved. They are not self-centered. They are not brats. There are so many kids and adults with ADHD throughout both sides of our family that there is no doubt in my mind that this is genetic.

I suppose its my fault for reproducing or something.

Look, you know you and your kids. We don't. No one here even knows you. Stop defending yourself.
On the flip side, was at Starbucks this evening. Parent was there with two kids about 6 and 8. She was telling someone the laundry list of diagnosed disorders the younger one has. She was not tending to them. They were supposed to be watching her laptop with cartons on it. But, alas, they ran around the place like crazies. That was at 8:30, -on a school night.
Are we to believe there's no correlation with enviornment?
And yes, every family is indeed different.

Parent training and support should be required prerequisites before putting these young children on potentially dangerous drugs.

[Anonymous]

New poster here. I am a school and camp nurse. Here are my thoughts and I will probably get flamed. If ADHD real? Yes, just like a peanut allergy. But both are over diagnosed in my opinion. I think ADHD is so over diagnosed that true ADHD are actually getting put on the spectrum instead.

Most kids have a peanut sensitivity. They don't feel too well, occasionally get a mild rash - no medication is needed. Parents/doctors label it ALLERGY. The same as someone with a true allergy that walks around with an Epi-pen? Um no.

I feel this is the same as ADHD. There are true cases but they are now considered so severe. But that IS ADHD. Hard to control kids, kids that don't concentrate as well as siblings are not. There are so many that have no discipline and structure in their life. Too much screen times, too much processed food, not enough sleep. Parents that can't put in the extra time because they are exhausted from work. No consequences.

And really until about 30yrs ago, most kids were outside playing ALL THE TIME!! They may have played one rec sport, maybe a piano here or there. There was more land, more freedom, no screens, no 24hr cartoons, a parent that stayed home all day, less processed food. Today kids are driven/bussed to school, get 30min tops of recess a day. No daily PE. Many stay in after care until it is almost dark. They get more homework, more tests, and parents expect young kids to be in even more structured sports and activities after that. Then they get upset because their child figits, can't sit still, doesn't always listen? They roll their eyes and put a screen in their face. So while I truly think parents need to discipline more like other posters are saying, I truly think the lack of healthy non-processed food, fresh air, free time and too much overstimulation in the mind (but not body) of screens is the biggest problem. And another huge one is US. How much time do we just run around and play with our kids? We have screens attached to us too. It is easier to be snappy and have less patience with our kids when we are "always" busy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to get flamed for this, but here goes...some of the most misbehaved children I know are diagnosed with ADHD. Interestingly enough, their parents are the most ineffective, passive and permissive adults.

I've yet to meet a child with ADHD who's raised in a strict but loving, disciplined household with firm limits, consistent boundaries, a set schedule and a healthy dose of the word n and benign neglect as needed. We're raising self-centered, entitled brats.

Go ahead, tell me that you are raising your child this way and he/she is gifted, healthy, quirky, etc. but despite your loving interventions...

We've gotten so afraid of blaming Mother or accusing the parents of neglect that experts tend to gloss over or claim the home environment is relevant.

I highly doubt you have any children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I am a school and camp nurse. Here are my thoughts and I will probably get flamed. If ADHD real? Yes, just like a peanut allergy. But both are over diagnosed in my opinion. I think ADHD is so over diagnosed that true ADHD are actually getting put on the spectrum instead.

Most kids have a peanut sensitivity. They don't feel too well, occasionally get a mild rash - no medication is needed. Parents/doctors label it ALLERGY. The same as someone with a true allergy that walks around with an Epi-pen? Um no.

I feel this is the same as ADHD. There are true cases but they are now considered so severe. But that IS ADHD. Hard to control kids, kids that don't concentrate as well as siblings are not. There are so many that have no discipline and structure in their life. Too much screen times, too much processed food, not enough sleep. Parents that can't put in the extra time because they are exhausted from work. No consequences.

And really until about 30yrs ago, most kids were outside playing ALL THE TIME!! They may have played one rec sport, maybe a piano here or there. There was more land, more freedom, no screens, no 24hr cartoons, a parent that stayed home all day, less processed food. Today kids are driven/bussed to school, get 30min tops of recess a day. No daily PE. Many stay in after care until it is almost dark. They get more homework, more tests, and parents expect young kids to be in even more structured sports and activities after that. Then they get upset because their child figits, can't sit still, doesn't always listen? They roll their eyes and put a screen in their face. So while I truly think parents need to discipline more like other posters are saying, I truly think the lack of healthy non-processed food, fresh air, free time and too much overstimulation in the mind (but not body) of screens is the biggest problem. And another huge one is US. How much time do we just run around and play with our kids? We have screens attached to us too. It is easier to be snappy and have less patience with our kids when we are "always" busy.

This is one of the most honest and intellegent posts I've ever seen on DCUM. Thank you. If only more frontline professionals would speak the truth as you do. Thank you again.

[Anonymous]

My observation, and I know I'm going to get flamed for this, is that yeah that are some intelligent and competent school and camp nurses. But most of them are stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My observation, and I know I'm going to get flamed for this, is that yeah that are some intelligent and competent school and camp nurses. But most of them are stupid.

Denial maybe?
Plus your retort makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My observation, and I know I'm going to get flamed for this, is that yeah that are some intelligent and competent school and camp nurses. But most of them are stupid.

You haven't had much opportunity to observe school and camp nurses, have you? You know it and we know it. Maybe next time take some time to thoughtfully express your disagreement. It's always helpful to included a few words explaining your differing point of view. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My observation, and I know I'm going to get flamed for this, is that yeah that are some intelligent and competent school and camp nurses. But most of them are stupid.

Denial maybe?
Plus your retort makes no sense.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

We are vegetarian/whole food eaters. We do very, very limited screentime. We are chart/routine/schedule/positive discipline parents. I am more than all about outdoor, active playtime as much as possible everyday.

Our son has ADHD. Go figure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are vegetarian/whole food eaters. We do very, very limited screentime. We are chart/routine/schedule/positive discipline parents. I am more than all about outdoor, active playtime as much as possible everyday.

Our son has ADHD. Go figure.

What does his daily routine look like? When is his ADHD the worst?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to get flamed for this, but here goes...some of the most misbehaved children I know are diagnosed with ADHD. Interestingly enough, their parents are the most ineffective, passive and permissive adults.

I've yet to meet a child with ADHD who's raised in a strict but loving, disciplined household with firm limits, consistent boundaries, a set schedule and a healthy dose of the word n and benign neglect as needed. We're raising self-centered, entitled brats.

Go ahead, tell me that you are raising your child this way and he/she is gifted, healthy, quirky, etc. but despite your loving interventions...

We've gotten so afraid of blaming Mother or accusing the parents of neglect that experts tend to gloss over or claim the home environment is relevant.

Some of this is valid. Post-ADHD diagnosis, I have definitely changed my parenting style and wish I had done so earlier. Not speaking for
All ADHD parents, but I definitely contributed to my child's lack of boundaries.

Consistency is key, but it's hard when you're consistently sleep deprived.