Petraeus: the plot thickens

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:817- you should be ashamed of yourself- how mean spirited.

Lets see what you look like at 60.

Yes-- that was both mean-spirited and disingenuous. This is a very normal representation of the way women look around 60. There's no way DP's behavior is his wife's fault, and there's no good reason DP, who certainly looks his age himself, should have believed he was entitled to cheat with a woman over 20 years his junior, and who is just 9 years older than his own daughter.

The Broadwell lady herself seems to be a bit of a loon, what with the husband and the hacking and the threats and all-- not to mention the "I already knew him from Academia", which no one actually says. But every woman who gets involved with a man older than her own generation is really an accessory to a misogynistic act against women in the man's own generation (which mean-spirited PP is apparently applauding).

Highlighted text^^exactly PP. This is the very dangerous subtext of this kind of act. Women need to be very clear that this is what they are doing when they engage in this kind of relationship. They kid themselves that they are exerting some kind of "power". But they are diminishing all women by doing such things. Broadwell got caught in her subject's awesome narrative--Petraeus is a GOD among mortals as a military strategist; it is intoxicating to be around any guy with that much power. She lost her shit completely as this CIA woman threatened her access to the general. She threw all reason out the window and resolved to take everyone, him included down in flames. What a nightmare. What a tragedy for the families effected. I hope that they can all come back from this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They made a point to say she was a kick-boxer, she must have physically threatened the other woman. But, how did the other woman have access so easily to the FBi? Do they check out every harrssing email? And why did the crazy chick have access to Patraeus's email account. She hacked into his email, that is why they investigated Petraeus. But, they didn't say if she had help?

The other woman was CIA. Broadwell used an anonymous account to harass this CIA woman who she saw as a threat to her access to Petraeus. The OTHER WOMAN took these threatening emails to the FBI. FBI has jurisdiction over interstate criminal acts. Threats over the internet to a CIA employee would definitely pique their interest. The affair just came out in the course of investigating the emails. Seems like Broadwell went bats hit. Sad. She's obviously a brilliant, talented woman (Harvard/Tufts-Fletcher/King's College.) Credentials in her field don't really get any better than that. She and Petraeus have made a horrible, horrible mistake. Sounds like Petraeus has been a dog for a while though. Well, she's no spring chicken at 40. They're both old enough to know better.

According to this article, the other person is not CIA and not his wife:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-probe-of-petraeus-triggered-by-e-mail-threats-from-biographer-officials-say/2012/11/10/d2fc52de-2b68-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_print.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, so I'm not the best at keeping up on current events and probably have no business in the political forum. However, I just started reading about this story. Am I missing something? Some other footage of this woman or some unsavory bio on her? People, please: are we looking at the same woman? I watched the Daily Show interview and I'm trying to decide what I want more--to BE Broadwell (minus this scandal) or to BANG her. And I'm a strait woman. She is a total badass, very intelligent, suscessfull, and smoking hot.

Obviously she has a nice body. Why would you want to be someone who lies, cheats, destroys lives and families, and is probably going to break the hearts of her own children?

I find it disgusting that she sits there and talks about Petraeus like she's some kind of scholar and the whole time, she was banging him. THAT's how she got such an unprecedented inside look at the subject of her work. She whored herself out. As a feminist, I find that apalling. It takes away all her credibility.

I think when the first poster excepted the scandal, she meant all the actions that led to the scandal, not just the getting caught part.

As a feminist, the whole thing makes me angry because Paula Broadwell's background and resume should make women proud of her accomplishments. Her bio is quite extraordinary. Now her achievements are clouded by her craziness and the suggestion that she had got access to DP because of sex.

[Anonymous]

I think we are crazy to think someones marriage is our business. Petraus resigned and put having an affair as a reason.
End of story

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, so I'm not the best at keeping up on current events and probably have no business in the political forum. However, I just started reading about this story. Am I missing something? Some other footage of this woman or some unsavory bio on her? People, please: are we looking at the same woman? I watched the Daily Show interview and I'm trying to decide what I want more--to BE Broadwell (minus this scandal) or to BANG her. And I'm a strait woman. She is a total badass, very intelligent, suscessfull, and smoking hot.

Obviously she has a nice body. Why would you want to be someone who lies, cheats, destroys lives and families, and is probably going to break the hearts of her own children?

I find it disgusting that she sits there and talks about Petraeus like she's some kind of scholar and the whole time, she was banging him. THAT's how she got such an unprecedented inside look at the subject of her work. She whored herself out. As a feminist, I find that apalling. It takes away all her credibility.

I think when the first poster excepted the scandal, she meant all the actions that led to the scandal, not just the getting caught part.

As a feminist, the whole thing makes me angry because Paula Broadwell's background and resume should make women proud of her accomplishments. Her bio is quite extraordinary. Now her achievements are clouded by her craziness and the suggestion that she had got access to DP because of sex.

Yes, good point. I hope we've made enough progress so that this'll be just a temporary blip. The real harm is the damage to the reputation of a man who served his country brilliantly, by many accounts, and the two families, but there's always collateral damage of the kind you mention.

[Anonymous]

So why does an FBI whistleblower go to a member of Congress about his/her concerns? Because of how the FBI is handling (or not handling it)? Was this person worried that the FBI or the administration had known for awhile what was going on but allowing him to stay on as director?

I think a better title of this thread would be "the plot sickens"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, so I'm not the best at keeping up on current events and probably have no business in the political forum. However, I just started reading about this story. Am I missing something? Some other footage of this woman or some unsavory bio on her? People, please: are we looking at the same woman? I watched the Daily Show interview and I'm trying to decide what I want more--to BE Broadwell (minus this scandal) or to BANG her. And I'm a strait woman. She is a total badass, very intelligent, suscessfull, and smoking hot.

I am a man married to a very successful woman and sorry, she does absolutely nothing for me-a real cold character.

[Anonymous]

If the Broadwell's issue a statement saying that they are in counseling and working on their marriage, I will throw up. That is such a cliche. I feel badly for the husband and kids. But he will probably receive a lot of support from people if he is a decent guy. I would think that Patraeus's wife either knew about this or other indiscretions and doesn't give a crap. She probably figures that she has a good career of her own and with two children, albeit already grown up, why rock the boat?

[Anonymous]

As a feminist, the whole thing makes me angry because Paula Broadwell's background and resume should make women proud of her accomplishments. Her bio is quite extraordinary. Now her achievements are clouded by her craziness and the suggestion that she had got access to DP because of sex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

"Suggestion" that she got acces to DP because of sex? Isn't more than just a suggestion now? Isn't it a fact?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

As a feminist, the whole thing makes me angry because Paula Broadwell's background and resume should make women proud of her accomplishments. Her bio is quite extraordinary. Now her achievements are clouded by her craziness and the suggestion that she had got access to DP because of sex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

"Suggestion" that she got acces to DP because of sex? Isn't more than just a suggestion now? Isn't it a fact?

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Yes. In truth, her achievements are more than clouded. They mean almost nothing. All that she worked for meaningless by age 40.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard on twitter (I know I know) that infidelity rumors had plagued him for years. Maybe PP who wrote once a dog always a dog was right.

Also, maybe he messed with the wrong bitch (not sure if pun intended)- Broadwell seems Cra--zazy.

In her interview with J. Stewart, she displays an intensity, coldness, self-preservation, and reserve that's very unappealing to many people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard on twitter (I know I know) that infidelity rumors had plagued him for years. Maybe PP who wrote once a dog always a dog was right.

Also, maybe he messed with the wrong bitch (not sure if pun intended)- Broadwell seems Cra--zazy.

In her interview with J. Stewart, she displays an intensity, coldness, self-preservation, and reserve that's very unappealing to many people.

+1

[Anonymous]

She seems like a really smart, cold, unhinged Glenn Close type of character who is extremely impressed with herself -- her body, her brain, her courage, yada yada yada. I can't help but feeling more than a little schadenfreudy over this. I'd love to read her threatening e-mails -- she probably borrowed from Stephen King instead of Norman Vincent Peale, who she used to quote in her tweets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:817- you should be ashamed of yourself- how mean spirited.

Lets see what you look like at 60.

Yes-- that was both mean-spirited and disingenuous. This is a very normal representation of the way women look around 60. There's no way DP's behavior is his wife's fault, and there's no good reason DP, who certainly looks his age himself, should have believed he was entitled to cheat with a woman over 20 years his junior, and who is just 9 years older than his own daughter.

The Broadwell lady herself seems to be a bit of a loon, what with the husband and the hacking and the threats and all-- not to mention the "I already knew him from Academia", which no one actually says. But every woman who gets involved with a man older than her own generation is really an accessory to a misogynistic act against women in the man's own generation (which mean-spirited PP is apparently applauding).

Highlighted text^^exactly PP. This is the very dangerous subtext of this kind of act. Women need to be very clear that this is what they are doing when they engage in this kind of relationship. They kid themselves that they are exerting some kind of "power". But they are diminishing all women by doing such things. Broadwell got caught in her subject's awesome narrative--Petraeus is a GOD among mortals as a military strategist; it is intoxicating to be around any guy with that much power. She lost her shit completely as this CIA woman threatened her access to the general. She threw all reason out the window and resolved to take everyone, him included down in flames. What a nightmare. What a tragedy for the families effected. I hope that they can all come back from this.

I think the bolded text is a selfish and sweeping statement. The fact that you may or may not be in love with someone means nothing, because you are wronging an entire generation of women older than you by taking away one of their eligible men..." Whatever.

The statements above are really just first wave, woman-on-woman bashing. Really we should all know better than to criticize or call each other out for personal life choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:817- you should be ashamed of yourself- how mean spirited.

Lets see what you look like at 60.

Yes-- that was both mean-spirited and disingenuous. This is a very normal representation of the way women look around 60. There's no way DP's behavior is his wife's fault, and there's no good reason DP, who certainly looks his age himself, should have believed he was entitled to cheat with a woman over 20 years his junior, and who is just 9 years older than his own daughter.

The Broadwell lady herself seems to be a bit of a loon, what with the husband and the hacking and the threats and all-- not to mention the "I already knew him from Academia", which no one actually says. But every woman who gets involved with a man older than her own generation is really an accessory to a misogynistic act against women in the man's own generation (which mean-spirited PP is apparently applauding).

Highlighted text^^exactly PP. This is the very dangerous subtext of this kind of act. Women need to be very clear that this is what they are doing when they engage in this kind of relationship. They kid themselves that they are exerting some kind of "power". But they are diminishing all women by doing such things. Broadwell got caught in her subject's awesome narrative--Petraeus is a GOD among mortals as a military strategist; it is intoxicating to be around any guy with that much power. She lost her shit completely as this CIA woman threatened her access to the general. She threw all reason out the window and resolved to take everyone, him included down in flames. What a nightmare. What a tragedy for the families effected. I hope that they can all come back from this.

I think the bolded text is a selfish and sweeping statement. The fact that you may or may not be in love with someone means nothing, because you are wronging an entire generation of women older than you by taking away one of their eligible men..." Whatever.

The statements above are really just first wave, woman-on-woman bashing. Really we should all know better than to criticize or call each other out for personal life choices.

I don't think the age difference should matter, but having an affair with a married person (in this case each is married and has children) should not be a personal life choice. Yes, people should be criticized for selfishly putting their own desires, needs--whatever you want to call it--without consideration of the affect on their families.