s/o Redraft the 14th Amendment to Fix the "Anchor Baby" Issue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dear moron. You don't teach the native language. As soon as they are old enough to talk to other children or adults they pick it up. It is like breathing. Put a kid in Russia and they will speak Russian. Take that kid and put him in francecand voila he speaks French. it doesn't matter what is spoken in the home. I know a kid from Korea who is an English speaker after one year of preschool.

Who are you responding to? I'm the one who questioned why the immigrant isn't teaching her son her native (non-English) language. If your response is to me, it makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's NOYB but you can only teach someone if they want to learn it. And for us, learning DH's language and English was a priority so we didn't force it.

Why do you care anyway?

Really?? Parents that I know whose native tongue is something other than English, teach their kids both (usually one parent will do one language, one the other). Why wouldn't you want a bilingual child? It would start from birth...no "force" involved.

You're either lying or lazy. Either way, I really *don't* care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's NOYB but you can only teach someone if they want to learn it. And for us, learning DH's language and English was a priority so we didn't force it.

Why do you care anyway?

Really?? Parents that I know whose native tongue is something other than English, teach their kids both (usually one parent will do one language, one the other). Why wouldn't you want a bilingual child? It would start from birth...no "force" involved.

You're either lying or lazy. Either way, I really *don't* care.

You asked and responded so your "don't care" doesn't make sense.

I tried, DC chose his father's language. After a certain age they develop embarrassment and shut off. Books are great but unless you've walked on other's shoes al you know is what you read and it's not always true.

My child is bilingual thank you very much, I just didn't see a need to force a 3rd language early on. Satisfied now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look. I live in DC even tho I hate it. I could list a million things about it that make me miserable on a daily basis. There are 100 places I'd rather live. But the jobs are here. The money is here. And those things will allow me to offer more opportunities for my children. I imagine it is the same for many immigrants. They would LOVE to go back to their home countries -- but sometimes you follow the dollar. That doesn't mean everyone that is here thinks this is the greatest country in the world. It just means this is where they have to make money.

Your kids might regard the DMV as their home. I once was at a meeting where there was discussion of school calendars. Some travel to the US to have babies and ebb and flow back to home countries. That didn't happen back in the sailing ship days. You came you stayed.

[Anonymous]

I've been in the US (and other countries) for many years now due to work and I have loved each of them. I think the US is a great place to live, but I don't want to become an American citizen. Home is still somewhere else. It is where I grew up, were my family is, were they cook the food I like... yet my kids were born here and I believe they are very lucky because they have two nationalities. When the time comes they can choose to either stay here or not or come back at some point. What a wonderful gift! They have very strong ties to my home country, but I can see how this can be difficult for other families, because of finances, distance, etc. For many families this is the only home the child knows.

I work hard, pay taxes, volunteer, support the arts, respect the laws and feel a part of the community and in general I feel very welcome and integrated here, but when I read comments like "if you don't want to be an American then you should go back to your sh*t hole country and stop taking our stuff and jobs from us" I just have to roll my eyes and take a deep breath.

Back to the original question, I truly believe the US is the great country it is today because of that amendment and historically being so welcoming to immigrants. I am sure very few of the PP's are native Americans.

[Anonymous]

I am sure very few of the PP's are native Americans.

You do realize that no county has existed since the beginning of time. So does that mean that England, Peru, Germany, Canada, Korea, Pakistan etc cannot have immigration laws and enforce them because not everyone there is "native" to the country. This native american argument is moronic and more than a little tiresome.

[Anonymous]

Good for me but not good for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the responses.

I have no desire to become American because I was born and raised elsewhere and live here just due to the circumstances. I do want to go back one day and don't want my child to be forced to live somewhere which is not their home.

Also, the fact that I have to give up my citizenship from my country of origin is a huge turn off. I don't mind being sent home if you guys declare war against us but I'd die if I was not allowed back home for such reason.

It's funny how you're forcing my citizenship on my child when he has never been there for more than 3 months in his entire life. My child is American. Born and raised here. You like it or not.

If this "law" was in place a few decades back would your parents or grandparents be impacted or they were all native americans?

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Anonymous wrote:Answer my questions and I'll be pleased to answer yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Add in that birth right can only occur if at least 1 parent is a citizen.

I will sign it and get some illegals who can't read english to sign it too.

This is not fair.

You're only saying this because your parents are American.

I've been here for 15 years and have no interest in becoming an American. OTOH, my child was born here and raised in your soil. I pay taxes and US is my child's home. Why do you think he should not be considered American? What is he then?

Why do you live here, but have no desire to become a citizen (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "becoming an American")? And why would you want your child to be one?

-Your child would be classified as a citizen of whatever country you are from.
-He would become an American if and when you decide to do the same or at age 18, he would become a US citizen. (There could be a special provision that minor children whose parents entered the US legally and hold continual legal status, would automatically be granted US citizenship at age 18.)

Well my last family member came over about 100-years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been in the US (and other countries) for many years now due to work and I have loved each of them. I think the US is a great place to live, but I don't want to become an American citizen. Home is still somewhere else. It is where I grew up, were my family is, were they cook the food I like... yet my kids were born here and I believe they are very lucky because they have two nationalities. When the time comes they can choose to either stay here or not or come back at some point. What a wonderful gift! They have very strong ties to my home country, but I can see how this can be difficult for other families, because of finances, distance, etc. For many families this is the only home the child knows.

I work hard, pay taxes, volunteer, support the arts, respect the laws and feel a part of the community and in general I feel very welcome and integrated here, but when I read comments like "if you don't want to be an American then you should go back to your sh*t hole country and stop taking our stuff and jobs from us" I just have to roll my eyes and take a deep breath.

Back to the original question, I truly believe the US is the great country it is today because of that amendment and historically being so welcoming to immigrants. I am sure very few of the PP's are native Americans.

All of my great-grandparents are buried here. Most of my great-great-grandparents are buried here. Some of my great-great-great-grandparents are buried here. I'm not Native American but I'm pretty damn American!

[Anonymous]

Didn't read the pages of arguments for or against bc I firmly believe that yes, there needs to be a change.

Many countries have such laws requiring that at least one parent be a citizen. There is nothing new or unusual about such a law and I do believe that it would probably cut down on small amount of the influx of illegal immigration in the short run. The long term benefits would take years and years to realize.

[takoma]

I wonder whether Italians think to themselves "If George Clooney loves Lake Como so much, why doesn't he become an Italian citizen?"