s/o Redraft the 14th Amendment to Fix the "Anchor Baby" Issue

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
who live here for jobs


Is this not for a better life? Why not work in your country of birth and leave the jobs for someone who cares about this country?


Because you don't freaking know how to do it so you have to call us.
Anonymous
You guys know that there's no such a thing as "anchor baby" anymore, right?
Anonymous
Look. I live in DC even tho I hate it. I could list a million things about it that make me miserable on a daily basis. There are 100 places I'd rather live. But the jobs are here. The money is here. And those things will allow me to offer more opportunities for my children. I imagine it is the same for many immigrants. They would LOVE to go back to their home countries -- but sometimes you follow the dollar. That doesn't mean everyone that is here thinks this is the greatest country in the world. It just means this is where they have to make money.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the responses.

I have no desire to become American because I was born and raised elsewhere and live here just due to the circumstances. I do want to go back one day and don't want my child to be forced to live somewhere which is not their home.

Also, the fact that I have to give up my citizenship from my country of origin is a huge turn off. I don't mind being sent home if you guys declare war against us but I'd die if I was not allowed back home for such reason.

It's funny how you're forcing my citizenship on my child when he has never been there for more than 3 months in his entire life. My child is American. Born and raised here. You like it or not.

If this "law" was in place a few decades back would your parents or grandparents be impacted or they were all native americans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Answer my questions and I'll be pleased to answer yours.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Add in that birth right can only occur if at least 1 parent is a citizen.

I will sign it and get some illegals who can't read english to sign it too.


This is not fair.

You're only saying this because your parents are American.

I've been here for 15 years and have no interest in becoming an American. OTOH, my child was born here and raised in your soil. I pay taxes and US is my child's home. Why do you think he should not be considered American? What is he then?


Why do you live here, but have no desire to become a citizen (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "becoming an American")? And why would you want your child to be one?



-Your child would be classified as a citizen of whatever country you are from.
-He would become an American if and when you decide to do the same or at age 18, he would become a US citizen. (There could be a special provision that minor children whose parents entered the US legally and hold continual legal status, would automatically be granted US citizenship at age 18.)


Thank you for your response, but in all honesty, I find it a bit off-putting. You're in America because you're afforded a better life (otherwise you wouldn't be here...let's be honest). If you don't want citizenship that's fine, but I"m assuming any permanent trips back home would be *after* your child is of age, no? If so, then we have no problem. He gets his citizenship at 18 and you're free to leave.

I'm black...my ancestors were slaves. So yes, my ancestors have, more than likely, been here before the Constitution was even written. I'm also past the age of 18, so even without the benefit of my parents, I'm an American.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
who live here for jobs


Is this not for a better life? Why not work in your country of birth and leave the jobs for someone who cares about this country?


Because you don't freaking know how to do it so you have to call us.


Wow...someone called you personally? Did you have to send a resume/application/etc or were you head-hunted? Once you were chosen, were you forced to come?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look. I live in DC even tho I hate it. I could list a million things about it that make me miserable on a daily basis. There are 100 places I'd rather live. But the jobs are here. The money is here. And those things will allow me to offer more opportunities for my children. I imagine it is the same for many immigrants. They would LOVE to go back to their home countries -- but sometimes you follow the dollar. That doesn't mean everyone that is here thinks this is the greatest country in the world. It just means this is where they have to make money.


If I was fortunate enough to be in a country that gave me the opportunity to live a better life, I'd be extremely grateful. Rather than turn up their nose at Americans, these people should be thankful that they have a chance to live a life their own country wasn't capable of providing.

Funny how once you're *out* of your shit-hole of a country, it becomes the greatest place on Earth. I'd suggest a return, but then I'd be accused of lacking "empathy".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look. I live in DC even tho I hate it. I could list a million things about it that make me miserable on a daily basis. There are 100 places I'd rather live. But the jobs are here. The money is here. And those things will allow me to offer more opportunities for my children. I imagine it is the same for many immigrants. They would LOVE to go back to their home countries -- but sometimes you follow the dollar. That doesn't mean everyone that is here thinks this is the greatest country in the world. It just means this is where they have to make money.


If I was fortunate enough to be in a country that gave me the opportunity to live a better life, I'd be extremely grateful. Rather than turn up their nose at Americans, these people should be thankful that they have a chance to live a life their own country wasn't capable of providing.

Funny how once you're *out* of your shit-hole of a country, it becomes the greatest place on Earth. I'd suggest a return, but then I'd be accused of lacking "empathy".


O/T, but that's kinda like Pittsburgh. Everyone who used to live there loves it, but there's no jobs, so they left.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look. I live in DC even tho I hate it. I could list a million things about it that make me miserable on a daily basis. There are 100 places I'd rather live. But the jobs are here. The money is here. And those things will allow me to offer more opportunities for my children. I imagine it is the same for many immigrants. They would LOVE to go back to their home countries -- but sometimes you follow the dollar. That doesn't mean everyone that is here thinks this is the greatest country in the world. It just means this is where they have to make money.


If I was fortunate enough to be in a country that gave me the opportunity to live a better life, I'd be extremely grateful. Rather than turn up their nose at Americans, these people should be thankful that they have a chance to live a life their own country wasn't capable of providing.

Funny how once you're *out* of your shit-hole of a country, it becomes the greatest place on Earth. I'd suggest a return, but then I'd be accused of lacking "empathy".


Who are you to say any other country is a shithole? I'm from Chicago -- it's fucking awesome. But I can't do my job there so I have to live in THIS shithole. I'd imagine there are a *lot* of immigrants who feel the same way.
Anonymous
As I said before, no place is better. I'm here due to circumstances and once my time is up I'm OUT! This is not home and I have no interest in becoming one of you. All I want is your money, all you want is my knowledge. It's just fair. Now, my child was born and raised here, doesn't speak my language well enough yet and his home is here. Why force us to something so horrible?


Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the responses.
I have no desire to become American because I was born and raised elsewhere and live here just due to the circumstances. I do want to go back one day and don't want my child to be forced to live somewhere which is not their home.

Also, the fact that I have to give up my citizenship from my country of origin is a huge turn off. I don't mind being sent home if you guys declare war against us but I'd die if I was not allowed back home for such reason.

It's funny how you're forcing my citizenship on my child when he has never been there for more than 3 months in his entire life. My child is American. Born and raised here. You like it or not.

If this "law" was in place a few decades back would your parents or grandparents be impacted or they were all native americans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Answer my questions and I'll be pleased to answer yours.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Add in that birth right can only occur if at least 1 parent is a citizen.

I will sign it and get some illegals who can't read english to sign it too.


This is not fair.

You're only saying this because your parents are American.

I've been here for 15 years and have no interest in becoming an American. OTOH, my child was born here and raised in your soil. I pay taxes and US is my child's home. Why do you think he should not be considered American? What is he then?


Why do you live here, but have no desire to become a citizen (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "becoming an American")? And why would you want your child to be one?



-Your child would be classified as a citizen of whatever country you are from.
-He would become an American if and when you decide to do the same or at age 18, he would become a US citizen. (There could be a special provision that minor children whose parents entered the US legally and hold continual legal status, would automatically be granted US citizenship at age 18.)


Thank you for your response, but in all honesty, I find it a bit off-putting. You're in America because you're afforded a better life (otherwise you wouldn't be here...let's be honest). If you don't want citizenship that's fine, but I"m assuming any permanent trips back home would be *after* your child is of age, no? If so, then we have no problem. He gets his citizenship at 18 and you're free to leave.

I'm black...my ancestors were slaves. So yes, my ancestors have, more than likely, been here before the Constitution was even written. I'm also past the age of 18, so even without the benefit of my parents, I'm an American.
Anonymous
Actually, by the time my contract is over DC will be 13yo. There's no way I'll force him To live far from his home.

Anonymous wrote:As I said before, no place is better. I'm here due to circumstances and once my time is up I'm OUT! This is not home and I have no interest in becoming one of you. All I want is your money, all you want is my knowledge. It's just fair. Now, my child was born and raised here, doesn't speak my language well enough yet and his home is here. Why force us to something so horrible?


Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the responses.
I have no desire to become American because I was born and raised elsewhere and live here just due to the circumstances. I do want to go back one day and don't want my child to be forced to live somewhere which is not their home.

Also, the fact that I have to give up my citizenship from my country of origin is a huge turn off. I don't mind being sent home if you guys declare war against us but I'd die if I was not allowed back home for such reason.

It's funny how you're forcing my citizenship on my child when he has never been there for more than 3 months in his entire life. My child is American. Born and raised here. You like it or not.

If this "law" was in place a few decades back would your parents or grandparents be impacted or they were all native americans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Answer my questions and I'll be pleased to answer yours.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Add in that birth right can only occur if at least 1 parent is a citizen.

I will sign it and get some illegals who can't read english to sign it too.


This is not fair.

You're only saying this because your parents are American.

I've been here for 15 years and have no interest in becoming an American. OTOH, my child was born here and raised in your soil. I pay taxes and US is my child's home. Why do you think he should not be considered American? What is he then?


Why do you live here, but have no desire to become a citizen (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "becoming an American")? And why would you want your child to be one?



-Your child would be classified as a citizen of whatever country you are from.
-He would become an American if and when you decide to do the same or at age 18, he would become a US citizen. (There could be a special provision that minor children whose parents entered the US legally and hold continual legal status, would automatically be granted US citizenship at age 18.)


Thank you for your response, but in all honesty, I find it a bit off-putting. You're in America because you're afforded a better life (otherwise you wouldn't be here...let's be honest). If you don't want citizenship that's fine, but I"m assuming any permanent trips back home would be *after* your child is of age, no? If so, then we have no problem. He gets his citizenship at 18 and you're free to leave.

I'm black...my ancestors were slaves. So yes, my ancestors have, more than likely, been here before the Constitution was even written. I'm also past the age of 18, so even without the benefit of my parents, I'm an American.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As I said before, no place is better. I'm here due to circumstances and once my time is up I'm OUT! This is not home and I have no interest in becoming one of you. All I want is your money, all you want is my knowledge. It's just fair. Now, my child was born and raised here, doesn't speak my language well enough yet and his home is here. Why force us to something so horrible?


Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the responses.
I have no desire to become American because I was born and raised elsewhere and live here just due to the circumstances. I do want to go back one day and don't want my child to be forced to live somewhere which is not their home.

Also, the fact that I have to give up my citizenship from my country of origin is a huge turn off. I don't mind being sent home if you guys declare war against us but I'd die if I was not allowed back home for such reason.

It's funny how you're forcing my citizenship on my child when he has never been there for more than 3 months in his entire life. My child is American. Born and raised here. You like it or not.

If this "law" was in place a few decades back would your parents or grandparents be impacted or they were all native americans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Answer my questions and I'll be pleased to answer yours.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Add in that birth right can only occur if at least 1 parent is a citizen.

I will sign it and get some illegals who can't read english to sign it too.


This is not fair.

You're only saying this because your parents are American.

I've been here for 15 years and have no interest in becoming an American. OTOH, my child was born here and raised in your soil. I pay taxes and US is my child's home. Why do you think he should not be considered American? What is he then?


Why do you live here, but have no desire to become a citizen (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "becoming an American")? And why would you want your child to be one?



-Your child would be classified as a citizen of whatever country you are from.
-He would become an American if and when you decide to do the same or at age 18, he would become a US citizen. (There could be a special provision that minor children whose parents entered the US legally and hold continual legal status, would automatically be granted US citizenship at age 18.)


Thank you for your response, but in all honesty, I find it a bit off-putting. You're in America because you're afforded a better life (otherwise you wouldn't be here...let's be honest). If you don't want citizenship that's fine, but I"m assuming any permanent trips back home would be *after* your child is of age, no? If so, then we have no problem. He gets his citizenship at 18 and you're free to leave.

I'm black...my ancestors were slaves. So yes, my ancestors have, more than likely, been here before the Constitution was even written. I'm also past the age of 18, so even without the benefit of my parents, I'm an American.


You love your home country so much and yet you haven't even taught your son the language? That, more than anything, speaks of your ties to your "home".
Anonymous
Why is the PP bashing on the immigrant that doesn't want to be a citizen? She's here to work and she pays taxes. I thought the issue was people that don't pay taxes but sign their citizen children up for services and school. Maybe, what we're talking about is white people? If so, just say it already and stop dancing around it.

My family has been for a few generations and I don't think this is the greatest place on earth. But, my family is here and I can work legally here. So, I stay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is the PP bashing on the immigrant that doesn't want to be a citizen? She's here to work and she pays taxes. I thought the issue was people that don't pay taxes but sign their citizen children up for services and school. Maybe, what we're talking about is white people? If so, just say it already and stop dancing around it.

My family has been for a few generations and I don't think this is the greatest place on earth. But, my family is here and I can work legally here. So, I stay.


Because no matter what that PP says, he hates ALL immigrants.
Anonymous
It's NOYB but you can only teach someone if they want to learn it. And for us, learning DH's language and English was a priority so we didn't force it.

Why do you care anyway?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As I said before, no place is better. I'm here due to circumstances and once my time is up I'm OUT! This is not home and I have no interest in becoming one of you. All I want is your money, all you want is my knowledge. It's just fair. Now, my child was born and raised here, doesn't speak my language well enough yet and his home is here. Why force us to something so horrible?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the responses.
I have no desire to become American because I was born and raised elsewhere and live here just due to the circumstances. I do want to go back one day and don't want my child to be forced to live somewhere which is not their home.

Also, the fact that I have to give up my citizenship from my country of origin is a huge turn off. I don't mind being sent home if you guys declare war against us but I'd die if I was not allowed back home for such reason.

It's funny how you're forcing my citizenship on my child when he has never been there for more than 3 months in his entire life. My child is American. Born and raised here. You like it or not.

If this "law" was in place a few decades back would your parents or grandparents be impacted or they were all native americans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Answer my questions and I'll be pleased to answer yours.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Add in that birth right can only occur if at least 1 parent is a citizen.

I will sign it and get some illegals who can't read english to sign it too.


This is not fair.

You're only saying this because your parents are American.

I've been here for 15 years and have no interest in becoming an American. OTOH, my child was born here and raised in your soil. I pay taxes and US is my child's home. Why do you think he should not be considered American? What is he then?


Why do you live here, but have no desire to become a citizen (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "becoming an American")? And why would you want your child to be one?



-Your child would be classified as a citizen of whatever country you are from.
-He would become an American if and when you decide to do the same or at age 18, he would become a US citizen. (There could be a special provision that minor children whose parents entered the US legally and hold continual legal status, would automatically be granted US citizenship at age 18.)


Thank you for your response, but in all honesty, I find it a bit off-putting. You're in America because you're afforded a better life (otherwise you wouldn't be here...let's be honest). If you don't want citizenship that's fine, but I"m assuming any permanent trips back home would be *after* your child is of age, no? If so, then we have no problem. He gets his citizenship at 18 and you're free to leave.

I'm black...my ancestors were slaves. So yes, my ancestors have, more than likely, been here before the Constitution was even written. I'm also past the age of 18, so even without the benefit of my parents, I'm an American.


You love your home country so much and yet you haven't even taught your son the language? That, more than anything, speaks of your ties to your "home".
Anonymous
Dear moron. You don't teach the native language. As soon as they are old enough to talk to other children or adults they pick it up. It is like breathing. Put a kid in Russia and they will speak Russian. Take that kid and put him in francecand voila he speaks French. it doesn't matter what is spoken in the home. I know a kid from Korea who is an English speaker after one year of preschool.
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