Are you a non-Catholic family at a Catholic school?

[Anonymous]

Not the PP to which you were posing the question.

I'm sure parents (and church/school administrators) like this child and his parents very much. Here's the thing though, the Catholic Church believes homosexuality is wrong. Therefore, how do you teach that when it's accepted in the classroom by way of this child's same-sex parents. You can't, without it being a tacit acceptance of the relationship itself, which Church doctrine is very clear on.

It is unfortunate for the child in question. It is not designed as a punishment for that child. It's the reality that this family's life, in this one very important component, is not in line with the teachings of the Church. No condemnation of the women or the child involved.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]cool it.
The school is not raising your kid. You are
The catholic school kids are exposed drugs and sex and violence as much as children at other schools.
Either way, I hope the catholic parents are shielding their children from the priests
How many take the catholic teachings seriously? I think very few. The kids take the societys obsession with money and wealth and greed seriously.
What do you think can be accomplished with 'I was hungry and you game me food to eat....'[/quote]

Actually, many millions take the teachings seriously.

[Anonymous]

The school is not raising your kid. You are

Ridiculous. The school has a huge impact on your kids. If you don't believe that, then you can't possibly have raised teens.

The catholic school kids are exposed drugs and sex and violence as much as children at other schools.

Not true in our experience. My kids have been in four different high schools. One was Catholic. Drugs and alcohol were certainly an issue. But no where near as prevalent as in the public schools.

Either way, I hope the catholic parents are shielding their children from the priests

Never felt the need. Every priest we've had contact with has been completely trustworthy. And devastated by any abuse in the Church. That's why the Church has taken such strong measure to prevent abuse in the future.

How many take the catholic teachings seriously? I think very few. The kids take the societys obsession with money and wealth and greed seriously.

My family takes the Catholic teachings very seriously, as do most of the practicing Catholics that we know. We are in a very active, growing parish. My kids are involved in youth. They work in the children's programs. They teach Vacation Bible School. And they have earned countless service hours building homes and providing food for the less fortunate.

What do you think can be accomplished with 'I was hungry and you game me food to eat....

As people of faith...any faith....it is out absolute responsibility to care for the most vulnerable members of our society.

[Anonymous]

pp, do you take catholic teachings seriously? Including the prohibition on contraceptives.
The catholic schools do not teach the children of parenst who do not use contraceptives. Those parents could never afford the school fees

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not the PP to which you were posing the question.

I'm sure parents (and church/school administrators) like this child and his parents very much. Here's the thing though, the Catholic Church believes homosexuality is wrong. Therefore, how do you teach that when it's accepted in the classroom by way of this child's same-sex parents. You can't, without it being a tacit acceptance of the relationship itself, which Church doctrine is very clear on.

It is unfortunate for the child in question. It is not designed as a punishment for that child. It's the reality that this family's life, in this one very important component, is not in line with the teachings of the Church. No condemnation of the women or the child involved.

But the CHILD was not involved in a sinful relationship. The child's mother and her lover were!

The school doesn't have to enroll the lesbian parents, just the child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:pp, do you take catholic teachings seriously? Including the prohibition on contraceptives.
The catholic schools do not teach the children of parenst who do not use contraceptives. Those parents could never afford the school fees

Ha ha. You should check out the rosters at Heights and Oakcrest. Lots of families with 5 or more kids. Lots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But the CHILD was not involved in a sinful relationship. The child's mother and her lover were!

The school doesn't have to enroll the lesbian parents, just the child.

Except, in most schools and especially small schools, parents are very involved with the class. How many people talk about their school's sense of community and knowing the other families as a reason for choosing a particular school. It's not like this couple would not be part of this school community, and unfortunately, that's something that isn't condoned by the Catholic Church.

[Anonymous]

Knowing the teachings of the Catholic church I have no idea why any gay families would willingly enroll their child in a Catholic school.

The priest abuse scandal pains me as it does all Catholics. How those children were treated and how those priests were sheltered is horrendous. But keeping your child safe is your biggest concern then you may want to keep them away from teachers too. The sexual abuse rate is statistically the same between teachers and priests:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21392345/

[Anonymous]

Statistically you have a better chance of your child being molested in a public school and this factors in number differences..saw this on television but have to say teacher's unions tend to shield teachers so the molestation factor could be anywhere..don't let Joey hang out with your teacher's afterschool and you chances of that happening go way down. Now intersesting that PP asked if her child who isn't Catholic could go to a Catholic school..answer is yes but if you don't like the teachings of the church..don't go. But as always..anytime anything Catholic comes up on this board..the attacks begin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But the CHILD was not involved in a sinful relationship. The child's mother and her lover were!

The school doesn't have to enroll the lesbian parents, just the child.

Except, in most schools and especially small schools, parents are very involved with the class. How many people talk about their school's sense of community and knowing the other families as a reason for choosing a particular school. It's not like this couple would not be part of this school community, and unfortunately, that's something that isn't condoned by the Catholic Church.

But the other family isn't practicing sinful, lesbian sex right in front of everyone at the spaghetti suppers! Just like the married couples having affairs aren't" doing it" right in the car pool pick up lines. And the other sinful parents probably aren't sinning on their taxes, or failing to get an anullment, right there in front of everyone.

I fear the Catholic schools are being turing into the Phasrisees some days.

Remember the quote: "We don't educate them because they are Catholic. We educate them because we are Catholic"? What a lost opportunity to reach out to those who have not heard God's words. Why turn people away because they are sinful? Or because their parents are sinful? if the parents want their children in the school and exposed to the Catholic teachings, why send them away because the parents aren't following the Church's law perfectly?

[Anonymous]

The priest abuse scandal pains me as it does all Catholics. How those children were treated and how those priests were sheltered is horrendous. But keeping your child safe is your biggest concern then you may want to keep them away from teachers too. The sexual abuse rate is statistically the same between teachers and priests:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21392345/

And I will add...the Church has gone to almost herculean efforts to prevent abuse. Anyone who works with kids in the parish has to have a background check done, fingerprints done, and take a class on preventing sexual abuse. Plus, adults are never allowed to be alone with kids. You have to have at least two adult teachers in each Religious Ed class for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: But as always..anytime anything Catholic comes up on this board..the attacks begin.

I'm Catholic. I also happen to think very good things of the Walforf Schools. but I have to tell you, as much as I try to defend Waldorf schools, if parents had to sign something similar to what parents of Catholic School kids now have to sign... I'd attack the Waldorf schools just as much for it!

Can you imagine?

I/We understand and acknowledge the Waldorf nature of the school to which our child is applying. I/We will not publicly repudiate the teachings and traditions of the Waldorf School System, and I/we will respect and support the unique identity that the school derives from itsWaldorf traditions. As the primary educator(s) of the applicant, I/We will not act in ways that contradict the Waldorf nature of the school. I/we shall cooperate fully with the school and the applicant shall participate in all required school programming, including instruction in the Waldorf method and attendance at Eurythmy sessions. As the primary educator(s) of the applicant, we agree to act in ways that promote the best interests of the community and school and will comply with the policies of the Association of Waldorf Educators.

That's a farce. But if teh Waldorf schools had you sign any such thing, would it not make it totally obvious that they were nothing more than a cult? Am intolerant cult that would not allow parents to act any way they wished, outside of the school day?

[Anonymous]

Wait -- is someone comparing an educational philosophy to a religion that has been around for thousands of years?

At the end of the day no one is forced to attend a Catholic school or a Waldorf school for that matter. Take it for what it is worth or don't. But if you choose to attend you really can't bitch about what they may "force" you to do -- just choose differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:pp, do you take catholic teachings seriously? Including the prohibition on contraceptives.
The catholic schools do not teach the children of parenst who do not use contraceptives. Those parents could never afford the school fees

Ha ha. You should check out the rosters at Heights and Oakcrest. Lots of families with 5 or more kids. Lots.

Any with 15 kids?
Any welfare families with 16 kids? I know families like that exist. Just not in the private schools

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry but I don't get all the fuss with the statement.

The way I read it, it basically says you need to respect the fact that this school you are CHOOSING is a faith based school and you are expected to PUBLICLY ACT in a way that respects that. (so even if you privately support abortion, a bumper sticker on your carpool car is not appropriate) If you CHOOSE to have us teach your child according to these principles, taking them aside and contradicting what we teach is not helpful. And finally, we are going to teach religion and take the kids to Mass and you need to be okay with that if you CHOOSE to send your kid here.

What's the big deal? No one HAS to go to Catholic school. If you don't like it, save yourself the tuition and go public or CHOOSE a school affiliated with your own religion.