I know not every parent believes in "Physically Disciplining" your child

[Anonymous]

dedicateddad wrote:Thank you for sharing 19:10. I have really been taking some maulings on here from these people!! It's good to see a couple other people who aren't mad that they got punished when they were bad and can see how effective a small dose of controlled violence can be to shaping a youngster into something better than they are!

19:10 here. There was another post about this last night where these women were going off like crazed vultures about the aspect of hitting kids and how it turns you into a violent person and you have learned hitting/ abuse it ok.

Try to get a god damn word edgewise in that one and I would be shocked. Atleast on this thread you, OP, shut up the a-holes who are calling my parents and me abusive.

Its ridiculous that today some parents think kids should be happy, appeased, cannot watch tv, no soda all the time. I dont get it. My parents were wonderful people and both worked FT so NO we had TV dinners and we watched TV while my mom had night school homework, and if we threw tantrums...wait we didnt because we would get spanked. I am not saying that raising your kids the other way with cloth diapers, only water and milk, etc, is bad but stop putting down people who are not doing it YOUR WAY!

UGH! Thanks....rant over!

[dedicateddad]

19:10 is a sensible woman. I thought they stopped making those.

[dedicateddad]

Seriously....that was a joke though. I know so many great and smart people who feel the way we do 19:10...but most of them don't feel like coming onto a website like this to get attacked by people who think they know everything because they follow every word that some asshat on TV who puts a Dr. in front of his name says to do... And I'm having a hard enough time fighting in this one I don't think I have it in me to do this somewhere else too!

[Anonymous]

dedicateddad wrote:Seriously....that was a joke though. I know so many great and smart people who feel the way we do 19:10...but most of them don't feel like coming onto a website like this to get attacked by people who think they know everything because they follow every word that some asshat on TV who puts a Dr. in front of his name says to do... And I'm having a hard enough time fighting in this one I don't think I have it in me to do this somewhere else too!

19:10 here. Yeah I dont know how you have fenced off so many assholes on the two threads you are on. Its quite impressive. I do try to start being calm and explaining my arguments like a rational person but then it all goes to hell very quickly. I must be a "stand out" on this site because I dont understand a lot of the dumb things people post and/ or say. I was actually referred to as a "bitch" today and thanked the posted bc yeah I can be a bitch but I dont let people walk all over me on an anonymous forum or in real life.

Today was most annoying in many respects with all the ridiculous posts and responses so I think I will take a break from the insanity. Goodluck sir. Its a war zone in here

[dedicateddad]

In the other thread it got so bad I started feeling like I wasn't acting like myself and I was just saying shit to get a response after awhile...but it's hard to get a regular conversation out of the people here generally but the ones who do talk about the question or topic are usually smart and insightful. But maybe that's just my experience.

[Anonymous]

dedicateddad wrote:Who the fuck are you to tell me I didn't learn my lessons in service? I obeyed that person because I knew that if I didn't that the punishment would be much worse than the desired behavior. Whether that was physical punishment like being smacked in the head or physical punishment like running for 1000000000 hours straight. I didn't want the punishment and it became a badge of honor for me (figuratively) to know that my performance and behavior was satisfying my officers and I was doing a good job for the Corps. Suck my dick.

Sorry, but if you obeyed the chain of command because you were afraid of being cuffed like a dog, or being forced to run laps, you missed the memo. Again, "discipline" ain't got nothing to do with physical contact.

[Anonymous]

My parents used physical punishment on me and I grew up to be a very successfule and respected businessman, husband and father. The only effect I think it had on me is I now enjoy that in the bedroom!

[Anonymous]

"I see this behavior on nearly a daily basis but I grew up in a military family and am very focused on respect"

Try focusing on American History and writing skills. You remind me of Archie Bunker.

[Anonymous]

dedicateddad wrote:Who the fuck are you to tell me I didn't learn my lessons in service? I obeyed that person because I knew that if I didn't that the punishment would be much worse than the desired behavior. Whether that was physical punishment like being smacked in the head or physical punishment like running for 1000000000 hours straight. I didn't want the punishment and it became a badge of honor for me (figuratively) to know that my performance and behavior was satisfying my officers and I was doing a good job for the Corps. Suck my dick.

The prosecution rests, your honor.

I'm gonna frame this one.

[Anonymous]

oh "dedicateddad", the arguments you provide are so worn out and silly. Worse, I bet you believe yourself to be a regular, upstanding, and oh so wise citizen.

If you really were ok with the way you were raised and they way you raised your kids, you would not seek validation from strangers. Further, if beating you up as a kid really helped you learn any lesson, wouldn't they have only had to beat you say once or twice ever. I mean if beating a kid works, why do you have to do it more than once? The people who beat you as a kid do so out of their own anger and frustration and it gave them a release.

Most of the kids that I actually know who get spanked/beat/hit have horrible behavior because they only way they know when to stop their behavior is from the parent hitting them. They never internailize any self-control or self discpline because they have no need to do so. They rely soley on the parent for years on end because they never develop their own sense of when enough is enough. This is one of the reasons why they have such trouble in school. The teacher isn't going to hit them so they never know when to stop their behavior(s).

Kids behave badly in public for many reasons most of which we will never know. We see these kids and their parents for a tiny snippet of time and then decide that because the parent didn't make a bigger scene than the child that their is no discipline in this country, everyone will end up a criminal, etc. I have also seen many adults behave very badly in public.

[dedicateddad]

I hear what you are saying 12:34 that is a good argument about the not knowing when to stop without being hit. I don't think it is valid at all but it is an interesting argument. But I see a major flaw in your logic about "wouldn't they have only had to beat you say once or twice ever" argument. Aren't there more than one or 2 things that a kid can do that requires discipline of any level. If I smacked my little sister...they'd show me what time it was. I didn't hit my sister or any girl ever again. I told my grandma to shut up once....ONCE. That lesson didn't need re-teaching. There were 100 reasons why I deserved the 100 ass whoopings I got as a kid. And most of them were first offenses...except lying. That one was hard to learn...you always think that you might just be able to get one over on them....stupid kids. That is a good lesson to teach your kids...."You are a child and I am an adult. You are not slick. I am way smarter than you are right now and you will not be able to fool me with any degree of success so please do yourself a favor and don't make things worse by being dishonest...because I will go upside your head." You guys can feel free to use that. That's a freebie! I think I'm going to write a parenting book.

[Anonymous]

"There were 100 reasons why I deserved the 100 ass whoopings I got as a kid."

Too bad your parents didn't substitute a decent education for the 100 ass whoopings. Did you even finish high school?

[dedicateddad]

I completed high school and college and have a masters degree in International Business...you fucking trolls are irritating. Why do you want to know so much about me Mr or Mrs Anonymous 13:05?

[Anonymous]

dedicateddad wrote:I completed high school and college and have a masters degree in International Business...you fucking trolls are irritating. Why do you want to know so much about me Mr or Mrs Anonymous 13:05?

The substance of your writing is less than the 8th grade level.

[dedicateddad]

I'm communicating here just fine you dipshit. I am cursing like a sailor because you are so irritating and I am using a relaxed conversational style since I am just on the internet, primarily dealing with assholes and trolls.