Marshall Road ES (full day Kinder)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Side follow up to 21:32, you don't have to go to the center at Archer for AAP. There is community-based level IV AAP instruction available Freedom Hill, Flint Hill, Marshall Road, Oakton, and Wolftrap. [ To the other poster --- Yes, even at Freedom Hill with all those ELL and low-income kids... because you know some of them are pretty dang smart too. ]

The Local Level IV AAP experience is NOT the same as the Level IV AAP Center experience. The peer groups are different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Side follow up to 21:32, you don't have to go to the center at Archer for AAP. There is community-based level IV AAP instruction available Freedom Hill, Flint Hill, Marshall Road, Oakton, and Wolftrap. [ To the other poster --- Yes, even at Freedom Hill with all those ELL and low-income kids... because you know some of them are pretty dang smart too. ]

The Local Level IV AAP experience is NOT the same as the Level IV AAP Center experience. The peer groups are different.

LOL! And some say peer groups don't matter as much in ES!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Sorry, you're the inept one since you don't understand. The comparison was between Fairfax County School System vs. DC School System.

Comprehension escapes you.

If that were the case - which it clearly wasn't - it would be yet another of your off-topic posts of absolutely no use to the OP.

Relevance escapes you.

[Anonymous]

Whether the local level IV is as good as the AAP Center is inconsequential to this discussion (and I agree that it is not the same). But the point about the AAP students was that academically advanced students at a just a "good" school such as Freedom Hill or Cunningham Park have the opportunity to attend a "great" school such as Louise Archer for AAP. They are not "stuck" at their school.

Peer groups do matter more at the middle and high school level. Most young students are eager to learn and don't have a bad influence on each other in lower grades. I'm confident there are enough "smart" students at "good" schools such as Freedom HIll or Cunningham Park to make up a class of 'like' peers. There may not be 3 classes of "smart" students like there might be at Wolf Trap but there are enough higher income kids so they can be around like peers. As another poster put it, this is not DC schools we are talking about. The differences among Vienna-area schools are just not that great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Side follow up to 21:32, you don't have to go to the center at Archer for AAP. There is community-based level IV AAP instruction available Freedom Hill, Flint Hill, Marshall Road, Oakton, and Wolftrap. [ To the other poster --- Yes, even at Freedom Hill with all those ELL and low-income kids... because you know some of them are pretty dang smart too. ]

The Local Level IV AAP experience is NOT the same as the Level IV AAP Center experience. The peer groups are different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sorry, you're the inept one since you don't understand. The comparison was between Fairfax County School System vs. DC School System.

Comprehension escapes you.

If that were the case - which it clearly wasn't - it would be yet another of your off-topic posts of absolutely no use to the OP.

Relevance escapes you.

Too bad for you, I was responding to the DC poster who took it off topic. Go take it up with her.

If posts going off topic bothers you, that's just too bad. Go get yourself a box of tissues.

Absurdity doesn't escape you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whether the local level IV is as good as the AAP Center is inconsequential to this discussion (and I agree that it is not the same). But the point about the AAP students was that academically advanced students at a just a "good" school such as Freedom Hill or Cunningham Park have the opportunity to attend a "great" school such as Louise Archer for AAP. They are not "stuck" at their school.

Peer groups do matter more at the middle and high school level. Most young students are eager to learn and don't have a bad influence on each other in lower grades. I'm confident there are enough "smart" students at "good" schools such as Freedom HIll or Cunningham Park to make up a class of 'like' peers. There may not be 3 classes of "smart" students like there might be at Wolf Trap but there are enough higher income kids so they can be around like peers. As another poster put it, this is not DC schools we are talking about. The differences among Vienna-area schools are just not that great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Side follow up to 21:32, you don't have to go to the center at Archer for AAP. There is community-based level IV AAP instruction available Freedom Hill, Flint Hill, Marshall Road, Oakton, and Wolftrap. [ To the other poster --- Yes, even at Freedom Hill with all those ELL and low-income kids... because you know some of them are pretty dang smart too. ]

The Local Level IV AAP experience is NOT the same as the Level IV AAP Center experience. The peer groups are different.

That's pure conjecture on your part.

Differences may nor may not be great, but going with the best schools in Vienna is the best choice, if possible. Again, "great" is better than "good" even if they're all perceived as "fine."

[Anonymous]

Everything said is pure conjecture on everyone's part. Really, just because a school scores a "10" on greatschools does not necessarily mean that the teachers are best or the curriculum is the best; it may just mean that more higher-income kids attend that school. And which "great" high school does your home feed into - Marshall High or Langley, I hope. Because they are the only "great" ones around here. Madison is just "good," you know, even if all of them are "fine."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whether the local level IV is as good as the AAP Center is inconsequential to this discussion (and I agree that it is not the same). But the point about the AAP students was that academically advanced students at a just a "good" school such as Freedom Hill or Cunningham Park have the opportunity to attend a "great" school such as Louise Archer for AAP. They are not "stuck" at their school.

Peer groups do matter more at the middle and high school level. Most young students are eager to learn and don't have a bad influence on each other in lower grades. I'm confident there are enough "smart" students at "good" schools such as Freedom HIll or Cunningham Park to make up a class of 'like' peers. There may not be 3 classes of "smart" students like there might be at Wolf Trap but there are enough higher income kids so they can be around like peers. As another poster put it, this is not DC schools we are talking about. The differences among Vienna-area schools are just not that great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Side follow up to 21:32, you don't have to go to the center at Archer for AAP. There is community-based level IV AAP instruction available Freedom Hill, Flint Hill, Marshall Road, Oakton, and Wolftrap. [ To the other poster --- Yes, even at Freedom Hill with all those ELL and low-income kids... because you know some of them are pretty dang smart too. ]

The Local Level IV AAP experience is NOT the same as the Level IV AAP Center experience. The peer groups are different.

That's pure conjecture on your part.

Differences may nor may not be great, but going with the best schools in Vienna is the best choice, if possible. Again, "great" is better than "good" even if they're all perceived as "fine."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything said is pure conjecture on everyone's part. Really, just because a school scores a "10" on greatschools does not necessarily mean that the teachers are best or the curriculum is the best; it may just mean that more higher-income kids attend that school. And which "great" high school does your home feed into - Marshall High or Langley, I hope. Because they are the only "great" ones around here. Madison is just "good," you know, even if all of them are "fine."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whether the local level IV is as good as the AAP Center is inconsequential to this discussion (and I agree that it is not the same). But the point about the AAP students was that academically advanced students at a just a "good" school such as Freedom Hill or Cunningham Park have the opportunity to attend a "great" school such as Louise Archer for AAP. They are not "stuck" at their school.

Peer groups do matter more at the middle and high school level. Most young students are eager to learn and don't have a bad influence on each other in lower grades. I'm confident there are enough "smart" students at "good" schools such as Freedom HIll or Cunningham Park to make up a class of 'like' peers. There may not be 3 classes of "smart" students like there might be at Wolf Trap but there are enough higher income kids so they can be around like peers. As another poster put it, this is not DC schools we are talking about. The differences among Vienna-area schools are just not that great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Side follow up to 21:32, you don't have to go to the center at Archer for AAP. There is community-based level IV AAP instruction available Freedom Hill, Flint Hill, Marshall Road, Oakton, and Wolftrap. [ To the other poster --- Yes, even at Freedom Hill with all those ELL and low-income kids... because you know some of them are pretty dang smart too. ]

The Local Level IV AAP experience is NOT the same as the Level IV AAP Center experience. The peer groups are different.

That's pure conjecture on your part.

Differences may nor may not be great, but going with the best schools in Vienna is the best choice, if possible. Again, "great" is better than "good" even if they're all perceived as "fine."

What do you think Greatschools.com bases their ratings on?

It's not conjecture if the test scores are being compared, and based on that, the great ones in Vienna include Archer and Westbriar....not Cunningham Park.

And when did Marshall HS become so "great" that it is mentioned in the same sentence with Langley? Keep dreaming.

[Anonymous]

Based on greatschools, the same site that says Westbriar and Archer are great (scores of 10 and 9, respectively) but Cunningham Park only good (a score of 5) gives Marshall High a 9 but only an 8 for Madison. Sorry if your children feed into Madison. I wouldn't want your precious kids to only go to a "good" school. Perhaps a move to the Langley pyramid is in order?

Oh, and are your children in AAP? Too bad they have to go to Jackson, certainly not a great school with a score of only 7. Oye. Children not in AAP? Thankfully, they can go to Thoreau which ranks a 10. But of course your children are in AAP because they go to a great elementary school, Westbriar or Archer, I presume.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everything said is pure conjecture on everyone's part. Really, just because a school scores a "10" on greatschools does not necessarily mean that the teachers are best or the curriculum is the best; it may just mean that more higher-income kids attend that school. And which "great" high school does your home feed into - Marshall High or Langley, I hope. Because they are the only "great" ones around here. Madison is just "good," you know, even if all of them are "fine."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whether the local level IV is as good as the AAP Center is inconsequential to this discussion (and I agree that it is not the same). But the point about the AAP students was that academically advanced students at a just a "good" school such as Freedom Hill or Cunningham Park have the opportunity to attend a "great" school such as Louise Archer for AAP. They are not "stuck" at their school.

Peer groups do matter more at the middle and high school level. Most young students are eager to learn and don't have a bad influence on each other in lower grades. I'm confident there are enough "smart" students at "good" schools such as Freedom HIll or Cunningham Park to make up a class of 'like' peers. There may not be 3 classes of "smart" students like there might be at Wolf Trap but there are enough higher income kids so they can be around like peers. As another poster put it, this is not DC schools we are talking about. The differences among Vienna-area schools are just not that great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Side follow up to 21:32, you don't have to go to the center at Archer for AAP. There is community-based level IV AAP instruction available Freedom Hill, Flint Hill, Marshall Road, Oakton, and Wolftrap. [ To the other poster --- Yes, even at Freedom Hill with all those ELL and low-income kids... because you know some of them are pretty dang smart too. ]

The Local Level IV AAP experience is NOT the same as the Level IV AAP Center experience. The peer groups are different.

That's pure conjecture on your part.

Differences may nor may not be great, but going with the best schools in Vienna is the best choice, if possible. Again, "great" is better than "good" even if they're all perceived as "fine."

What do you think Greatschools.com bases their ratings on?

It's not conjecture if the test scores are being compared, and based on that, the great ones in Vienna include Archer and Westbriar....not Cunningham Park.

And when did Marshall HS become so "great" that it is mentioned in the same sentence with Langley? Keep dreaming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on greatschools, the same site that says Westbriar and Archer are great (scores of 10 and 9, respectively) but Cunningham Park only good (a score of 5) gives Marshall High a 9 but only an 8 for Madison. Sorry if your children feed into Madison. I wouldn't want your precious kids to only go to a "good" school. Perhaps a move to the Langley pyramid is in order?

Oh, and are your children in AAP? Too bad they have to go to Jackson, certainly not a great school with a score of only 7. Oye. Children not in AAP? Thankfully, they can go to Thoreau which ranks a 10. But of course your children are in AAP because they go to a great elementary school, Westbriar or Archer, I presume.

Anonymous wrote:

I would suggest that there's no point getting into flame wars with each other, particularly on an anonymous forum where you don't know how many posters are actually posting, where they live, and whether they have any personal experience with the schools they repeatedly criticize.

You might have a more constructive discussion if you moved it over to City-Data, or if this forum began to require user registration. In its current unmoderated state, however, this sub-forum is just the Wild West.

[Anonymous]

I would suggest that there's no point getting into flame wars with each other, particularly on an anonymous forum where you don't know how many posters are actually posting, where they live, and whether they have any personal experience with the schools they repeatedly criticize.

You might have a more constructive discussion if you moved it over to City-Data, or if this forum began to require user registration. In its current unmoderated state, however, this sub-forum is just the Wild West.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on greatschools, the same site that says Westbriar and Archer are great (scores of 10 and 9, respectively) but Cunningham Park only good (a score of 5) gives Marshall High a 9 but only an 8 for Madison. Sorry if your children feed into Madison. I wouldn't want your precious kids to only go to a "good" school. Perhaps a move to the Langley pyramid is in order?

Oh, and are your children in AAP? Too bad they have to go to Jackson, certainly not a great school with a score of only 7. Oye. Children not in AAP? Thankfully, they can go to Thoreau which ranks a 10. But of course your children are in AAP because they go to a great elementary school, Westbriar or Archer, I presume.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everything said is pure conjecture on everyone's part. Really, just because a school scores a "10" on greatschools does not necessarily mean that the teachers are best or the curriculum is the best; it may just mean that more higher-income kids attend that school. And which "great" high school does your home feed into - Marshall High or Langley, I hope. Because they are the only "great" ones around here. Madison is just "good," you know, even if all of them are "fine."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whether the local level IV is as good as the AAP Center is inconsequential to this discussion (and I agree that it is not the same). But the point about the AAP students was that academically advanced students at a just a "good" school such as Freedom Hill or Cunningham Park have the opportunity to attend a "great" school such as Louise Archer for AAP. They are not "stuck" at their school.

Peer groups do matter more at the middle and high school level. Most young students are eager to learn and don't have a bad influence on each other in lower grades. I'm confident there are enough "smart" students at "good" schools such as Freedom HIll or Cunningham Park to make up a class of 'like' peers. There may not be 3 classes of "smart" students like there might be at Wolf Trap but there are enough higher income kids so they can be around like peers. As another poster put it, this is not DC schools we are talking about. The differences among Vienna-area schools are just not that great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Side follow up to 21:32, you don't have to go to the center at Archer for AAP. There is community-based level IV AAP instruction available Freedom Hill, Flint Hill, Marshall Road, Oakton, and Wolftrap. [ To the other poster --- Yes, even at Freedom Hill with all those ELL and low-income kids... because you know some of them are pretty dang smart too. ]

The Local Level IV AAP experience is NOT the same as the Level IV AAP Center experience. The peer groups are different.

That's pure conjecture on your part.

Differences may nor may not be great, but going with the best schools in Vienna is the best choice, if possible. Again, "great" is better than "good" even if they're all perceived as "fine."

What do you think Greatschools.com bases their ratings on?

It's not conjecture if the test scores are being compared, and based on that, the great ones in Vienna include Archer and Westbriar....not Cunningham Park.

And when did Marshall HS become so "great" that it is mentioned in the same sentence with Langley? Keep dreaming.

Comparing ES is one thing, but comparing HS is not as relevant.

Take a look at the SAT scores comparing Langley and Marshall and you will realize that Marshall isn't really on part with Langley. BTW, Madison has higher SAT scores than Marshall too.

[Anonymous]

Of course it's not relevant because it puts your school into a worse light than another. Greatschools is only relevant for elementary schools - got it. But still, you made no comment about the middle school your kids will go to? Luther Jackson? Or Thoreau? Let's see, if your kids go to Thoreau then they are going to a great school according to greatschools. Oh, wait, is greatschools relevant for middle schools? Please enlighten me. So if your kids feed into Thoreau that must mean they aren't in AAP, which means your great elementary school did not do as good of a job educating them as you thought. Or it means you chose not to go to an AAP center. But AAP centers have better peer groups than regular schools, so you do have a problem deciding which school to choose in that case, don't you?

Please do everyone a favor and move into a Langley pyramid where all of the schools are great.

[Anonymous]

BTW, how does Madison get students with such high SAT scores and Thoreau get a 10 on greatschools when its fed with children with "not great" schools as Cunningham Park?

[Anonymous]

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