IVF embryo error, custody settlement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, the woman who gave birth to this baby did NOT agree to have her body used as a surrogate. If the law favors the birth mother, I think that's fair.

Both couples should sue the hell out of the fertility clinic.

+1, however, there was a precedent where this happened and the woman was forced to give up the baby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The genetic parents realized the law was not on their side and it would likely be a costly and unsuccessful lawsuit to win custody so they agreed to this arrangement to be allowed to stay in the child’s life. It is very sad for the genetic parents.

The birth mother has said the genetic parents are staying a part of their shared child’s life.

…making it really easy for the baby to be like WTF when she grows up and realizes what happened and wonders why she wasn’t allowed to be raised by her real parents.

Imagine how she will feel if her bio parents have other kids—her full siblings—and she has to live alone with white parents.

This will blow up. This girl will likely seek emancipation early and there will definitely be a tell all book down the road.

Her guardian parents will regret their selfishness one day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't followed it all the way, but I remember being shocked that they located the biological parents and they didn't choose to sue for custody. I get why it's not the birth couple's fault, but I couldn't be so generous.

I went through IVF and I can't imagine being either couple in this scenario.

I think it was a very loving choice by the genetic parents. They didn't want to take a baby from the only family it has known or put parents who had bonded with and carried a baby through the pain of loss.

I agree with this. It's not in the baby's best interest to be taken from the people she knows as her parents.

If I were the biological parents, I would ask the couple if I could be in the baby's life in some way - not custody, but as family friends, more like an aunt. But I would respect their wishes no matter what they chose.

I believe I read that there is an agreement to have the biological parents involved in some way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't followed it all the way, but I remember being shocked that they located the biological parents and they didn't choose to sue for custody. I get why it's not the birth couple's fault, but I couldn't be so generous.

I went through IVF and I can't imagine being either couple in this scenario.

I think it was a very loving choice by the genetic parents. They didn't want to take a baby from the only family it has known or put parents who had bonded with and carried a baby through the pain of loss.

I agree with this. It's not in the baby's best interest to be taken from the people she knows as her parents.

If I were the biological parents, I would ask the couple if I could be in the baby's life in some way - not custody, but as family friends, more like an aunt. But I would respect their wishes no matter what they chose.

I believe I read that there is an agreement to have the biological parents involved in some way.

They should probably tell her that they wanted her but these people said no. I would not feel goot about keeping someone’s biological baby from them even in a mix up like this. The right thing to do was to let her go.

[Anonymous]

For me, it would depend. If I had other children and hadn’t planned any others, I would probably not try to claim primary custody and would sue the hell out of the company. If, however, I was still in the process of trying for a baby and had not had any successful pregnancies, that kid is coming home with me.

[Anonymous]

I read yesterday that the biological parents of the baby mentioned are very devastated (according to their attorney.) 💔

However if they chose to seek out custody of their bio child - - they most likely would have lost their case since in their state > custody would automatically be awarded to the Mother who actually gave birth to said child.

Seems pretty unfair to me.
There needs to be IVF laws in place for when stuff like this occurs though I hope it never does again.
But still……

I read that both families intend to sue over the mistake ➕ I think they should - - and win!

What I do not understand…….is how the family did not initially notice the child born to them was obviously of an entirely different race?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read yesterday that the biological parents of the baby mentioned are very devastated (according to their attorney.) 💔

However if they chose to seek out custody of their bio child - - they most likely would have lost their case since in their state > custody would automatically be awarded to the Mother who actually gave birth to said child.

Seems pretty unfair to me.
There needs to be IVF laws in place for when stuff like this occurs though I hope it never does again.
But still……

I read that both families intend to sue over the mistake ➕ I think they should - - and win!

What I do not understand…….is how the family did not initially notice the child born to them was obviously of an entirely different race?

Of course they would have noticed. But they might have thought that one of them could have been biologically related to her and it wasn’t until testing was done that they learned neither of them was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't followed it all the way, but I remember being shocked that they located the biological parents and they didn't choose to sue for custody. I get why it's not the birth couple's fault, but I couldn't be so generous.

I went through IVF and I can't imagine being either couple in this scenario.

I think it was a very loving choice by the genetic parents. They didn't want to take a baby from the only family it has known or put parents who had bonded with and carried a baby through the pain of loss.

I agree with this. It's not in the baby's best interest to be taken from the people she knows as her parents.

If I were the biological parents, I would ask the couple if I could be in the baby's life in some way - not custody, but as family friends, more like an aunt. But I would respect their wishes no matter what they chose.

I believe I read that there is an agreement to have the biological parents involved in some way.

They should probably tell her that they wanted her but these people said no. I would not feel goot about keeping someone’s biological baby from them even in a mix up like this. The right thing to do was to let her go.

It’s the woman who gave births biological child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guys, the woman who gave birth to this baby did NOT agree to have her body used as a surrogate. If the law favors the birth mother, I think that's fair.

Both couples should sue the hell out of the fertility clinic.

+1, however, there was a precedent where this happened and the woman was forced to give up the baby.

I think you may be referring to the Baby M case that took place in the eighties.

Where a woman named MaryBeth entered into a surrogate agreement w/another couple to carry their baby.
(In that case, I am almost positive that the baby was from her fertilized egg ➕ the other couple’s husband’s sperm.)

After birth - - the birth Mother changed her mind & wanted to keep the baby.
She even went so far as to actually kidnap the child and it was all an ugly, public mess.

In the end, the natural Mother had to surrender custody to the couple.

And now that the child is an adult >> the child doesn’t want anything at all to do with her biological Mother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The genetic parents realized the law was not on their side and it would likely be a costly and unsuccessful lawsuit to win custody so they agreed to this arrangement to be allowed to stay in the child’s life. It is very sad for the genetic parents.

The birth mother has said the genetic parents are staying a part of their shared child’s life.

I suppose we will ignore epigenetics, because in a very real sense, both mothers are genetic parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read yesterday that the biological parents of the baby mentioned are very devastated (according to their attorney.) 💔

However if they chose to seek out custody of their bio child - - they most likely would have lost their case since in their state > custody would automatically be awarded to the Mother who actually gave birth to said child.

Seems pretty unfair to me.
There needs to be IVF laws in place for when stuff like this occurs though I hope it never does again.
But still……

I read that both families intend to sue over the mistake ➕ I think they should - - and win!

What I do not understand…….is how the family did not initially notice the child born to them was obviously of an entirely different race?

The one couple is reported to be South Asian, which isn't white as discussed on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guys, the woman who gave birth to this baby did NOT agree to have her body used as a surrogate. If the law favors the birth mother, I think that's fair.

Both couples should sue the hell out of the fertility clinic.

+1, however, there was a precedent where this happened and the woman was forced to give up the baby.

I think you may be referring to the Baby M case that took place in the eighties.

Where a woman named MaryBeth entered into a surrogate agreement w/another couple to carry their baby.
(In that case, I am almost positive that the baby was from her fertilized egg ➕ the other couple’s husband’s sperm.)

After birth - - the birth Mother changed her mind & wanted to keep the baby.
She even went so far as to actually kidnap the child and it was all an ugly, public mess.

In the end, the natural Mother had to surrender custody to the couple.

And now that the child is an adult >> the child doesn’t want anything at all to do with her biological Mother.

I remember that case.
The Stern family hired people to kidnap the baby. Mary Beth was given visitation.
This eventually ended when the kid asked to divorce her mother.
It was a messed up case. Marybeth had thought she was helping a couple, but the man’s wife just chose to not have a baby herself.
They had the baby for a few days, but were tired of looking after new born. So when Marybeth arrived at their door asking for the baby they gave it to her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't followed it all the way, but I remember being shocked that they located the biological parents and they didn't choose to sue for custody. I get why it's not the birth couple's fault, but I couldn't be so generous.

I went through IVF and I can't imagine being either couple in this scenario.

I think it was a very loving choice by the genetic parents. They didn't want to take a baby from the only family it has known or put parents who had bonded with and carried a baby through the pain of loss.

I agree with this. It's not in the baby's best interest to be taken from the people she knows as her parents.

If I were the biological parents, I would ask the couple if I could be in the baby's life in some way - not custody, but as family friends, more like an aunt. But I would respect their wishes no matter what they chose.

I believe I read that there is an agreement to have the biological parents involved in some way.

They should probably tell her that they wanted her but these people said no. I would not feel goot about keeping someone’s biological baby from them even in a mix up like this. The right thing to do was to let her go.

It’s the woman who gave births biological child.

No it’s not. Neither parent is genetically related to her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The genetic parents realized the law was not on their side and it would likely be a costly and unsuccessful lawsuit to win custody so they agreed to this arrangement to be allowed to stay in the child’s life. It is very sad for the genetic parents.

The birth mother has said the genetic parents are staying a part of their shared child’s life.

I suppose we will ignore epigenetics, because in a very real sense, both mothers are genetic parents.

Well, let’s ignore it then because this baby will grow up forever confused.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't followed it all the way, but I remember being shocked that they located the biological parents and they didn't choose to sue for custody. I get why it's not the birth couple's fault, but I couldn't be so generous.

I went through IVF and I can't imagine being either couple in this scenario.

I think it was a very loving choice by the genetic parents. They didn't want to take a baby from the only family it has known or put parents who had bonded with and carried a baby through the pain of loss.

I agree with this. It's not in the baby's best interest to be taken from the people she knows as her parents.

If I were the biological parents, I would ask the couple if I could be in the baby's life in some way - not custody, but as family friends, more like an aunt. But I would respect their wishes no matter what they chose.

I believe I read that there is an agreement to have the biological parents involved in some way.

They should probably tell her that they wanted her but these people said no. I would not feel goot about keeping someone’s biological baby from them even in a mix up like this. The right thing to do was to let her go.

It’s the woman who gave births biological child.

No it is not. The embryo is not made from her egg. It was an embryo mixup, not a fertilization mixup.